Posted on Mar 27, 2022
Should an Officer who was non-selected for promotion, and discharged at 16 years of service, reenlist to finish their 20?
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Absolutely, 4 years is nothing compaired to the 16 you've already served. Why would you give up a retirement check? (Reserve retirement may not pay the bills under the old system, but it is time served and money earned.)
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PFC Larry Cunningham
Sgt Bob Corridan when I was in Germany in the early 80s we had a Captain that was a great officer who got passed over for promotion for the second time. There was supposedly only one spot open for promotion and it went to a worthless captain. The good Cpt stood up and defended his people. However when you are in a Headquarters unit with higher brass that does not always work. The other Cpt kissed ass and got the promotion.
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Sgt Bob Corridan
Such is life...I think we all, at one time or another, have witnessed an individual going to the front of the line if for no other reason than having a "halo" effect with his or her superiors. It is as true in the public/private sector as it is in the military. However, in the military, using that type of litmus test for promotion gets people killed and there are no do-overs. A weak CO gets people killed...a weak boss simply holds up my promotion. One I can live with and one I can't.
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A1C Medrick "Rick" DeVaney
Sgt Bob Corridan - ./...
As BILL GATES Is Credited To Have Said:
"Life Isn't Fair... Get Use To It"
But, Even Yet Today,To Get What You Want;
Sometimes Ya Just Gots Ta Do A Little Azz Kissin' Along The Way,
As BILL GATES Is Credited To Have Said:
"Life Isn't Fair... Get Use To It"
But, Even Yet Today,To Get What You Want;
Sometimes Ya Just Gots Ta Do A Little Azz Kissin' Along The Way,
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The short answer would be yes. But what are your current circumstances? Are you disabled, reenlistment code, age etc. If you are receiving a VA disability and was accepted by a branch for reenlistment you would have to suspend your disability payments or your military pay, you cannot receive both. Are you thinking Active or Guard/Reserve, officer or enlisted? Way to many variables to give you a straight answer. My suggestion if you’re serious about pursuing this are contacting a recruiter and seeing what options you may have. Good luck!
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CH (CPT) Antonio Arnold
This was 2011, I'm currently 100% disabled P&T plus Unemployable. Yes, 2011 was my last time on Active Duty within the Army Reserve. File disability and went to work for the BOP and an Information Receptionist and later Veterans Affairs Medical Center. I truly thought about it unfortunately, health took a dive. I just wanted to know everyone thoughts on the subject and hopefully help sone else who's going through. Thanks for the insights I will passed it on to anyone who was None Selected for Promotion with 15 years or more.
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Sgt Robert Burlison
See if you can find an honest online job. I have in mind something but as yet do not know how many employees I will need.
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TSgt James Sutton
I agree look for work online, lot of companies after Covid changes in employment now hire a lot of at home employees. Overseas there are several who want english speaking contractors but the pay is horrible, if you can speak/read/write any other languages will help a lot with the online job search.
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Probably the least painful path is to sneak into the Reserves, and get your remaining good years of service and apply for a Reservist Retirement based on your accumulated points. I presume your 16 years are fully active so that's going to be 5840 points right there. Then......... you'd need 4 more good reserve years, and at minimum need 50 points each year, 15 of which are automatic, and 48 for attending monthly drill then at minimum 14 points for annual training. 77 being the "minimum" without missing anything (I've never had less than 90ish) So at a minimum you'll retire with 6040 points.
The 20 year CPT pay is $7543. 20 years will get one 50% of that base pay (the old retirement plan) which is based on 7300 points. So a reserve pension would be prorated, and in your worst case (50 points the remining 4 years) is [6040/7300] * 0.5 * 7543 = $3120 a month.
Do I have this correct folks?
Not completing out the remainder 4 years is at a minimum loss of $3120 a month for the rest of his life?
The 20 year CPT pay is $7543. 20 years will get one 50% of that base pay (the old retirement plan) which is based on 7300 points. So a reserve pension would be prorated, and in your worst case (50 points the remining 4 years) is [6040/7300] * 0.5 * 7543 = $3120 a month.
Do I have this correct folks?
Not completing out the remainder 4 years is at a minimum loss of $3120 a month for the rest of his life?
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CH (CPT) Antonio Arnold
I wish I could with 18.6 years plus working towards Chaplaincy for the last 3 to 4 years. Unfortunately, HRC reverse their approval due to my Twice Non-selected for promotion to Captain back in 1995. I hold 2 Masters prior to HRC render their decision to reverse course with my career. With no chance to continue military service towards retirement as far as I know plus worsening physical conditions at a VA Disability rating of 40%. I decided to move on. Wished I had the mentorship available than. I had 18.6 Good years.
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Sgt Bob Corridan
Wow...at the 50% level that isn't a whole hulluva lot for someone who, at times, has placed his/her backside in harms way...the clowns in congress who put his backside in harms way get 90% of the last 3 years of service if they have been in for 25 years so a legislature who gets elected to office at 30, retires at 55 "for life" at a level of 90% of his last 3 years of office.....assume the per anum is $130000 on the low end, that is $117000 or $9750 per month with lifetime medical...and then he or she can go work for one of the many firms seeking favor with congress as a lobbyist and get SSA benefits and these are the same people that are telling the next generation that their 100% benefit amount will be kicked out to age 70 up from 67 up from 65....AND if a person is in the private sector, unlike the public sector, you cannot opt out of SSA...people always argue that you get more out of SSA than you put in and that is nothing short of BS...the 7.5% matching put in by your employer is your money so your 7.5% and the employer's 7.5% is a total of 15% that you could put into a mutual fund at a nominal ROI of 6% compounded and be a millionaire by age of 60 starting at age 22. If everyone opted out of SSA and got all their money back and invested conservatively the SSA would roll over like a dead whale.
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