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Posted on Nov 19, 2018
Maj Michael Haynie
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COL Gary Gresh
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Excellent article. I totally agree. It I go one step further. We need national service. Not a draft but a selection by every young American of a national service agency to support and work in for two years upon graduating high school , no exceptions. They could choose service in the armed forces of their choice or service with a number of other causes including FIRE, POLICE, VOLUNTEERS OF AMERICA, PEACE CORPS, APPALACHIAN CORPS , CIVIL WORKS CONSTRUCTION ETC. The carrot would be that you would get the GI BILL if you chose the military.
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CAPT John Kittler
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My career spanned the years from Vietnam to the Post 911 era. My feeling is that it is not so much that America supports it's Veterans, it just does not condemn them and it thanks them.
BUT
There is much too little after the parade.
The VA, created "for those who have borne the battle" has, in it's 150+ year history, failed to focus on and conquer the signature disease of war, PTSD. Indeed, the 2010 VA Treatment Guidelines for PTSD were horribly ineffective. They were drug based, had a less than 5% success rate (based in the clinical trial data and the VA's own data), hated by much of the Veteran population (only 18% completed a 12 week drug regimen), and often not even followed by the VA doctors themselves. The new 2017 guidelines focus on counseling but the VA has too few Veterans trained in that area. Locally, one of the counselors is a non-veteran who hardly speaks English and is know for dispensing Zoloft like candy. Mind you, this is 150 years after the creation of the VA and PTSD is a signature disease of war
and therefore fully and completely in the VA's area of responsibility.
Florida has one of the highest populations of Veterans, and homeless Veterans, and ranks 49th in mental health care (which includes substance abuse). Florida prides itself on being "Veteran Friendly" and is in many ways, but being 49th in mental health care is out of sync with that claim.
I'd like to postulate that after World War II, we knew how to bring the boys home. We knew how to bring them back into society. Somewhere after that, maybe before and certainly around Vietnam we forgot and / or tossed it aside. Whenever, however, we lost it.
We have now superficially substituted yellow ribbons and parades and retreats and one day a year "stand-downs" for real and ongoing support in too many places and for too many things. Additionally, there still lurks an underlying disrespect and / or mental health prejudice on the part of a few. For example, I have to wonder why it has to be pointed out, for every shooting, whether the person was a veteran or not. What is the point of that? Remember, media cannot tell you what to think, but it can put in front of you what to think about and thus shape your thought process.
I believe the best solutions will not be through Government, but can be aided by them. I believe current programs can be adapted to better assist Veterans, and I believe there are and will be gaps in any program that can and must be solved privately.
"Gee that was a nice parade! ...now what?"
- a veteran
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SSgt Richard Kensinger
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I served from 1969 to 1973 during the Vietnam Conflict. I served as an AF ER medic. it is the most detested and despised conflict! And as accused, we killed lots of kids, women, and the aged. As Lt. Col. Grossman offers in "On Killing", we are not naturally inclined to kill other humans. I am a retired clinical psychologist and professor. I conduct research on combat trauma and provide clinical consultation to vets in my area w/o cost. Also see TJ Brennan and Finbarr O'Reilly personal account of combat in "Shooting Ghosts". The psychosocial adverse impact of war and combat is extensive and impacts the soldier, his family, and society. To me, it is the method of last resort.

20 vets/day kill themselves. Most who do are not being followed at a VAC? The suicide rate among active duty, even non-combatants is climbing.
Whether a "regular or conscripted", the trauma is intolerable!
Rich
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CPT Alfred Smiley
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Some people believe that every American should serve for two years. In principle, that sounds good. In practice, however, the Armed Forces don't need that many recruits. The Armed Forces also aren't reform camps or self improvement programs for people who are unfit for military service for one reason or another. It is an honor to serve in uniform, whether people realize it or not. The military should enlist only be best people it is able to attract. Those who answer the call should be recognized for performing service that others were either unwilling or incapable of performing.
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PO2 David Allender
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There is an old saying that I always understood, and one that is still true day: 'TO HAVE PEACE, PREPAIR FOR WAR." The military observes this one very well.
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SGT Charles Bartell
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I agree most of us are forgotten, Like thoses from the KOREN war.
Exsept for a few thing's some of them where drafted.
Now we all volunteer for our Military service.
In Korea very few women farced direct combat or where K.I.A..
Now it is common thing.
One other thing that is different most of us better V.A. hospital's to go to.
Then The so called justice system seems to be against current and former military people.
There are alot pf us that have FOR LACK of a better term Mentale problems.
For example some one starts a fight with A combat vet. The next thing you know the one that started it in getting the crap beat out of him, and the vet does not remember a thing or very little of it.
guess who goes to jail.
Then the juge or other people that do not have a clue think. That just becuse we are trained to fight, We can turn it on and off.
When in fact most of us can not.
This is anther resion we have problems in Schools and at some job's.
Also just genral problems dealing with every day life.
I my simple opion that is why we seem to have so meny that do Drugs and Drink themselfs out of what they have left.
some can put it in a box. Then put it away.
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GySgt David Andrews
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Then let’s try something like the movie starship troopers. No joke I’m serious look at what was gained if you volunteered to serve. Make it worth serving your country and give some pride back to those who did sacrifice more than normal people in the country.
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SFC Wade Adams
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I have lived this ( the Marine that initial the article started with) for the last five and a half years. It's not to mention, if you have a job, you are basically like poster child for the company, " Company XYZ Supports our Troops". As a veteran, you're used as a grandstand to show appreciation, but the company's won't let you grow with them. I'm in a living hell right now with my current employer. Not only is there a problem advancing, but also , I feel the effects of having PTSD , from some type of discrimination. Yes, I chose to defend the country, but I didn't choose to be treated like I don't matter or invisible, as stated in the article.
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SPC William Szewc
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Since, a Federal Court has recently ruled requiring males register for the draft to receive grants, I wonder how long our representatives in Washington will take to dismantle Selective Service or amend the law to require all to register at age 18.
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PO1 Aaron Baltosser
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I can appreciate the insights received in conversation from the gentleman on the flight, but many in my own circle feel that disconnection between their military fellows and the civilian population. I feel that way because of several traits I see lacking in the civilian world. I have heard the words mission critical while working in the civilian workforce. I had to laugh hearing that since what we were doing at the time was so not critical to the success of that business it wasn't even funny. I see a distinct lack of loyalty amongst civilians, ready to shank each other in a heartbeat for a nickel more an hour at dead end jobs. I have observed a lack of fellowship even in organizations that purport to be founded on such principles. Until some of those traits are shared by both military personnel and civilians that send them into conflict, there can be little in common. The military folks win the wars, and the civilians lose the peace. They lose the peace because they are not invested in maintaining it. Until they are, they will never share the price of their failure.
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