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Posted on Jul 5, 2022
Sydney Glynn
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SP5 Dennis Loberger
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I am a member who agrees with the American Legion. They should have citizenship before they leave the military
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LTC George Morgan
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That sounds good, nevertheless, I stand by my notation above that they should commit to four years of service, as anything less is insufficient.
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SFC Joe S. Davis Jr., MSM, DSL
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Sydney Glynn thanks for sharing.
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Lt Col Charlie Brown
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If you serve in the military, you should be granted US citizenship
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Calling for faster path to citizenship for those who serve
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There should be a speedy pathway to citizenship period. There are so many other ways to serve our country other than the Armed forces.
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SSG Matt Wilson
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There is and always has been
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SSG Adrian Walker
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I personally know how rough it is to get your citizenship, I happened to receive my letter from I.N.S. as I was getting ready for my 2nd deployment to Iraq. I called them and the lady on the phone said that I would either have to cancel my flight ( like that was an option) or wait for another 5 years. I just hung up and went to my C.O and explained, he made 2 calls and the next thing I was on a hop to D.C. I was interviewed and asked 10 questions about the country that I had to get right from a book they never sent me to study, I passed and was the only person who was given citizenship then and there, no ceremony, I didn't care I was out the door and out country for another year.
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CWO4 Tim Hecht
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Sydney this my recollection from 50 years ago about Foreign Nationals in the US Military
- in addition to my 30 years of active duty I also spent 10-1/2 years on the US - Canadian Border as a Customs and Border Protection Officer.
When I was in the Navy (1070 - 1974) I served in the USS MIDWAY (CVA-41) Homeported both in Alameda, CA and Yokosuka, Japan. This was a transitional time for Citizens of the Philippines that enlisted in the Navy. Before, during, and after WWII Filipinos were allowed to enlist in the Navy but were restricted to the Steward Rating; essentially Servants for the officers. Their duties included cleaning Officer’s Staterooms and heads, ensuring that the officers they were assigned to had clean, pressed uniforms, shined shoes, proper haircuts, and that their meals were prepared and. Served. Almost sounds like they were personal servants to the officers but wait 1 minute - servants were not allowed by Title 10, U.S. Code. (https://www.govinfo.gov/app/details/USCODE-2011-title10/USCODE-2011-title10-subtitleD-partII-chap849-sec8639).
I joined the Navy and went to Boot Camp in San Diego In July 1970. While there the first “All Filipino Citizen” CompNy went through boot camp at the same time. They represented “change” - they were all enlisted as members of the SeaBees - Iron Workers, Electricians, Plumbers, Carpenters, Heavy Equipment Operators, Builders, Pipefitters, Etc. One “Important Thing to Remember” was (and probably still is) that a Filipino Candidate for Enlistment into the US Armed Forces, was far more qualified to enlist they were the Creme de la Creme; the absolute top candidates. Competition for the limited jobs was stiff. Most enlistees had College Degrees and more then qualified; their enlistment requirements were much more stringent then for a U S Citizen enlisting for the same rating.

- Sydney sorry for the long introduction to my point but necessary -

During their first enlistment it was my understanding that in order to remain on Active Duty beyond that enlistment (and extensions) that the member had to apply and be conditionally granted citizenship. This may have also included becoming a Lawful Permanent Resident.

Here is a link to the current US Immigration Policy about Naturalization through Military Service: https://www.uscis.gov/military/naturalization-through-military-service

Hopefully this will answer more questions then creating more!
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SSG Matt Wilson
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It’s hard for people to believe what you just educated us on…so embarrassing knowing we where that kind of military…even now undesignared get stuck working in hotels folding sheets…imagine trust to serve your country and ending up working in a navy hotel
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SMSgt Billy Cesarano
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The need for immigration to combat economic decline from inadequate population replacement is problematic. The extreme fortune of being born an American is no longer taught to today's youth as unique to this earth, quite the opposite. To combat that, we have in this country the ability to turn immigration on and off and have done so many times in the past. Emigrants from different countries should be examined on the individual level, based on the country of emigration. There are, believe it or not, countries, and therefore persons, that do not like the existence of the USA and culturally imbue their citizenry to embody those beliefs. Most truly desire a free society and a way to get to one. This is typical of many places considered non-western societies, such as the middle east where, we have had many a wonderful assimilation to citizenry and a few blood thirsty terrorist bent on our complete destruction. Western countries and societies that have absorbed large populations of legal migrants to avoid population demise must allow migrants adequate time (many, many years) in that country to fully assimilate before they or their descendants are accepted to the USA for citizenship or we start a country hopping effect. This process of reviewing applications is obviously time intensive and should be started as soon as possible, but at no time should the process be hurried for the benefit of the candidate. It can be and should be fast-tracked if in the investigation there have been no flags of any kind an documented support of dedication to the US, like abdicating all other allegiances (no dual citizenship). The entrance qualifications for legal migrants to join the US military does a good bit of the general vetting. Along with spotless community and military service, military services should provide applicants with courses, classes or online training and testing on our country's founding, formation of the constitution, composition of the federal government, states and military history of the US. With successful completion, applicants should then be fast tracked after the initial tour of duty completion. Anything else falls short of honesty and appreciation from both the candidate and our country. Maybe some of that gained knowledge will get passed on to natural born military members as well. In any case, we have strengthened our country with their addition.
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Deborah Gregson
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This would be a great first step toward reforming immigration law. It's insane that those who serve in the military aren't given aid in applying for and obtaining the citizenship they're promised. This Bill should be supported as the beginning of immigration reform.
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LTC George Morgan
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A superb recognition of our, and their new country. Coming in our case from the United Kingdom, the birthplace of my family, and three of my extended family, the husband of one, and the father of two of four, born in England, when he served in the USAF, at Manston, Kent, UK. On my brother-in-law's return to the States, preparatory to his two deployments in Vietnam, he always said that his immigrant airmen, and their equivalents in all branches of the military who had served beyond four years, this, to ensure that they didn't just serve to get citizenship, should be given an expedited route to citizenship. As an immigrant myself, and a veteran of the Royal Army, I agree with his position, in part, as I feel, that four years is commitment itself.
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SFC Christopher Reising
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I agree that all who serve should be afforded a speedy and simplified path to citizenship. Those who have served and are serving have earned the right and privilege to be an American.
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