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Posted on Jul 19, 2018
SSG Gerhard S.
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SPC Steve dePinet
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One other question on this topic: Since the new Selective Service Law (which was signed into law sometime in the early 1980's, or maybe 1979), has anyone actually been drafted? I was under the impression that there have been sufficient volunteers to keep up the needed manning levels so that no one has had to be drafted, but that's just my impression.
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SSG Gerhard S.
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The fact that noone's been drafted since the 1980's is immaterial. The fact that people need to register for selective service means their future, and choices are uncertain, and dependent upon the whims of politicians who, historically have no conjunction regarding the exemption of their own progeny.
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SPC Steve dePinet
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SSG Gerhard S. - I wasn't commenting on the validity of the law, just asking if it had ever been used to force a person into Service. Didn't think so, but my impression has been wrong in the past, so I was just checking.
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SSG Gerhard S.
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As far as I know, no one has bed drafted under that selective service law. Though the question remains, if we're really going to NOT draft people, why do we require people to register for selective service?
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SPC Steve dePinet
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I was incensed at former President Clinton getting out of the Draft with his Education Deferments, including running to the UK to do so, and was arguing with my dad (also a US Army Vet) and asked him: "If you had the chance to use you position to get me out of being drafted, would you have done so?". He said YES, absolutely. Now, I volunteered in 1978, well after the Vietnam Era Draft ended, and served thru 1982, when the new draft was initiated, so it really wasn't an issue in my case, but I was flabbergasted at dad, until I became a parent of a son (who is now a US Marine Vet), but I considered it duty to server (or, at least register for the draft, in case my presence was required).

OTOH, I was an Army PFC, sitting at my desk, in Worms Germany, reading the Stars and Stripes, and saw that there was a new draft law, and told my NCOIC, "Hey, Sgt Bryant, it says here that I need to go to the Post Office and register for the draft". He laughed, and I did not go. After I ETS'd, the Selective Service Admin sent a letter to my home of record, which my mom opened and she later told me that it was a threat that if I didn't register for the draft, they were going to send the FBI after my ass. She sent them a copy of my DD214, and they sent back a letter saying "Thank you for doing your duty and registerring for the draft" or some such. I never registered, so I guess that I'm veteran, while being a draft dodger, but I'm a Vet, first.

So, I have very mixed feelings on the subject of draft dodgers, and on those who used the legal system to get deferments. But, I believe that I did my duty, and that's who I need to worry about, not someone else.
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SSG Gerhard S.
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That should read "compunction", not "conjunction"
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SPC Steve dePinet
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SSG Gerhard S. - Sorry, I don't see where you or I used "conjunction", or "compunction".
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SSG Gerhard S.
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Thank you for sharing your thoughts, and experiences that shaped your thinking on this issue.
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SGT Jack Forkosh
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As a Vietnam vet, I can still feel my blood boil regarding those who dodged the draft. They still get the same rights as i, but never had the stones to serve their country,. I harbor no ill will against them today ,but if we were able to see what happened during WWII, we would find some of he same type behavior of tha tera, though not displayed as protesters and street gangs, but of ordinary folks that didn't believe in war or killing. We must look at the individual and see the good in them today. Yesterday was a long time ago. LIVE AND LET LIVE has been my thoughts since coming back from the war and I to this day have no ill feelings for those who decided not to serve.
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SSG Gerhard S.
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Thank you for sharing your thoughts, feelings, and ideas regarding this issue.
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SSG Byron Howard Sr
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Bidon beat the draft too.
Very disliked war (Vietnam) lot of people beat the draft one way or another.
That war is a thing of the past tome to move on.
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SSG Clayton Lam
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MSG Frederick Otero
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If you left the country then took the pardon to return well i have only two words for that kind of coward. If you went on to serve your prison time i salute your conviction, if you found another way to serve your country you also get a salute. If you used influence of others to get out of military service/combat duty well you get the same two word i have for those that accepted a pardon.
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COL Jim Lincoln
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few know that 4 Presidents dodged the draft-Vietnam: Clinton,Bush,Trump and yes,Biden
BTW I served 32 months in Vietnam if you want explanation for each email [login to see]
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COL Jim Lincoln
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Few know that 4 Presidents dodged the draft-during Vietnam war. Clinton, Bush,Trump and yes Biden
BTW,I served 32 months in Vietnam--if you want the explanation for each email [login to see]
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1LT Voyle Smith
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Not any more. I once cussed ‘em up and down but not now. Leave ‘em alone. They’ve suffered enough, trying to explain to their grandkids how they screwed up so royally. I wouldn’t want to have to do that.
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SPC Martin Meyer
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It appears to me you did not serve during the Vietnam Era and lived through those times. This is a free country because when called upon to serve men stood up in defense of this Country. Home of the Free Because of the Brave. I served from 71-74 was never sent to Vietnam like many I served with. The ones who legally avoided the draft so be it as a friend of mine was able to do so his father was a doctor with the VA. He is still my friend I do no harbor any bad feeling toward him. Those that dodged the draft and fled to Canada so someone else had to go in their place I do not trust and will never trust. This Country did not Mean anything to them Then and Much less Now!
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SSG Gerhard S.
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Thank you for sharing your thoughts, and experiences. One may say those who fled to avoid forced servitude, are the bad guys. Another might suggest the politicians forcing servitude upon a generation of our young, not to defend America, but rather to serve, suffer, or die in a war they prosecuted, without a path to victory, might, more appropriately be labeled the bad guys. Respectful regards.
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