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Posted on Jul 19, 2018
SSG Gerhard S.
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COL Jim Lincoln
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What about dodging the draft using bogus deferments? Would you believe we had 4 PRESIDENTS who did just that-Clinton,Bush Trump and yes Biden. I have explained before-if there is interest,will do it again.
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SSG Gerhard S.
SSG Gerhard S.
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Thank you sir, for your service, and for sharing your view on this issue. As stated in the original question. If we take a moment and explore the concept that defines the draft, i.e. involuntary servitude, or, at its worst, slavery, it becomes difficult to blame anybody for dodging, or even running away from compulsory "service". Respectful regards
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A1C Medrick "Rick" DeVaney
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SGT Richard Cook
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As far as politician are concerned you cannot find a handful that served in the armed forces prier to 9/11. Trump did not serve, neither did Bidden or Obama. I '69 You had 4 choices, drafted, Peace core, or run. So from my point of view, who is best for me?
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SSG Gerhard S.
SSG Gerhard S.
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A1C Medrick "Rick" DeVaney I suspect, if you look closer you'll find I only write that, if the respondent fails to address the context of the article. Responding to the first line, without addressing any of the reasons behind it, could be an indicator that the article hasn't been read. I'm happy you took the time to read the article, and am happy to discuss it with you. Respectful regards.
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A1C Medrick "Rick" DeVaney
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SSG Gerhard S. -
In Short, "You're Guessing"?
And From What I've Read, You're Not As Interested In Discussing ~
As Much As Telling Others What To Think, ? ... Which Is Your Way?
I Just Get The Feeling, "I Don't Understand What You're Doing" .. Not You ~ Me.
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SSG Gerhard S.
SSG Gerhard S.
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Actually, you left out the 5th choice, jail. Of course, if forced into any of those, against one's will, the result is a loss of one's freedom.
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SSG Gerhard S.
SSG Gerhard S.
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A1C Medrick "Rick" DeVaney though I DO share my opinion, I don't believe I've told anyone what to think.
Again, if there's any point listed in the article with which you disagree, or something I wrote that you'd like clarification on, I'm always happy to have a discussion. Have a great day!
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CPL Ronald Keyes Jr
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I do agree to a certain extent but honestly to play devils advocate I think the government should make every student who graduates from high school either join the mandatory 2 year military service or choose the opt out version either going to school or other special intersex jobs fields to be honest.
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SP5 Delphis Kaczowski
SP5 Delphis Kaczowski
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Equal means you DRAFT women also into the Military.
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SSG Roger Ayscue
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NO PERSON, regardless of reason, should be allowed to be elected into a position or office that can send someone into harm's way that never in a position to have been sent themselves. Nuff Said.
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SrA Cecelia Eareckson
SrA Cecelia Eareckson
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SSG Roger Ayscue - Your subsequent comment specifically states "NO ONE who did not wear a uniform and could have been sent into harm's way...". "Nuff said."
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SrA Cecelia Eareckson
SrA Cecelia Eareckson
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BTW, Nixon stayed well out of harm's way. He drew up manifests and supervised loading and unloading of cargo. Gosh, I did as much as an E2-4. He only got field grade as a weekend warrior.
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SSG Roger Ayscue
SSG Roger Ayscue
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SrA Cecelia Eareckson - But he went into the service, did what he was ordered to do and was discharged at some point, honorably. I am saying that to eliminate the elitists, on both sides of the aisle, from sending the "Less" to fight wars that need not be fought to begin with, that only add to the profits of this one or that one, if it were a requirement to be a veteran to hold those offices, you would see less needless deployments.
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SrA Cecelia Eareckson
SrA Cecelia Eareckson
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I doubt it, but that would take a line-by-line reading of who did what. I used to lean in that direction myself, but we are only dealing with that third generation insane dictator in North Korea, because Ford, a Navy veteran, wimped out on using nukes after the axe murders at the DMZ.
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SP5 Donna Barr
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Nah. I joined to get away from home and for the goodies, like most people, regardless of the Freiheit fairy tale. My husband was drafted (getting him double tinnitus, a weather-predicting bone, and a cameo in Forrest Gump), and wished he'd "gone to Canada." I later marched with hippies against the draft. War is for stupid people. And thieves. There's a meme going around "Hi! We hear you have oil - let us bring you democracy!" Note: the military is moving toward green energy because they're tired of all the blood for oil.
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SSG Gerhard S.
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Thank you for your service, and for sharing your perspective. One thing is certain, war is messy, wasteful, and pays little regard to the environment. I suspect, ultimately, though our military may talk about using "green energy" it will never be implemented until it no longer hinders mission objectives, or tactical effectiveness. There's a long way to go before that happens. Respectful regards
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A1C Medrick "Rick" DeVaney
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Nope ~ Not This Time Either
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SrA Cecelia Eareckson
SrA Cecelia Eareckson
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Are we not going to distinguish between WWII and Afghanistan?
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Lt Col Timothy Cassidy-Curtis
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No. It's their loss, no ours.
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Sgt Terry Rizzuti
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The only thing I disagree with is the statement of only wanting those who’ve willingly joined to be fighting beside me. I’m a Vietnam Vet with Purple Heart. Some of my closest friends were drafted. They fought as hard and well as those of us who joined, sometimes bled or died, because when it comes right down to it, you fight for your buddies and to stay alive, not for flag or country. You learn that the enemy does the same thing, so you learn to respect them too. Finally, wars should be fought on all fronts, so you learn to forgive the draft dodgers, even the wealthy ones who bought their way out of the draft with fake injuries and flunking school grades. It’s all part of the mental healing process, part of ridding yourself of hate.
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SSG Gerhard S.
SSG Gerhard S.
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Thank you for your voluntary service, and for sharing your thoughts, and experiences on this issue. Your comments are well received. I would like to add that my statement regarding wanting to serve with volunteers was not intended to disparage the service, honor, or valor of draftees.
Best wishes, and respectful regards.
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PVT Mark Whitcomb
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I enlisted. I was able to pick my first duty station. Many in my unit were 2yr draftees.... I couldn't care less what others did. They have to deal with what they did. It does not affect me so why waste time feeling one way or the other? It's just wasteful time I can spend doing something productive. If the draft were re-instated how many do you think would bail now??? With Women in combat roles would they have to be eligible also?
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SSG Gerhard S.
SSG Gerhard S.
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Thank you for your service, and for commenting. Great questions!
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SPC Rodger Bell
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is it okay for rich kids to not be drafted and not go is that fair
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SSG Gerhard S.
SSG Gerhard S.
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@spc Rodger Bell. Thank you for your service, and for taking thetime to comment on this issue. One might suggest it's not fair to force any of our young men or women into forced servitude. THIS is the actual point of the article. Respectful Regards
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CPO Greg H
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To serve or not is a personal choice today.
I chose to serve (1992-2016). I grew up on military bases overseas and state side during the Vietnam War.
My issue is with those that took deferment or just flat out didn't serve claiming to support the military and veterans but whose actions prove otherwise. And I especially dislike all the "Chickenhawks" .
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SSG Gerhard S.
SSG Gerhard S.
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Thank you for your voluntary service, and for sharing your thoughts, and perspective on this issue!
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