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Posted on Jul 19, 2018
SSG Gerhard S.
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SP6 Greg Jetter
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I served during the trasisson to the voluntary army , I served with draftees , I can honestly say most were ok , but those who really did not want to be there were a thorn in the side of the platoon . Who wants to have to rely on a person who dose not want to be there ? you wind up doing your job and theirs .
The draft is obsolete , lets just not allow our government to get us into a situation that requires massive amount of bodies for the meat grinder. I much rather server with people that want to be there .
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SSG Gerhard S.
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Thank you for your service, and for sharing your thoughts on this issue
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CPL Joe Brown
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I dont think there should be anyone in the Oval office who was never in any military branch. They have no skin in the game,. As for draft dodgers...they reaped what they sowed and let sleeping dogs lay.
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SFC Eric Harmon
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That is well thought out and well written. It is correct that a draft is involuntary servitude, a thing we fought an internal war to rid ourselves of. Why would you want anyone other than a volunteer in the foxhole with you?
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A1C Medrick "Rick" DeVaney
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Interesting Subject, But This Articles About 6 Years Older Than Dirt,
06/19/2018
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SSG Gerhard S.
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Yes, the article has been around for 6 years, but apparently, some people are still interested in its content. Respectful regards.
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A1C Medrick "Rick" DeVaney
A1C Medrick "Rick" DeVaney
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I'd Posted Previously, Probably About A Year Ago Or More,
I've Read Posts Repeatedly, Over 10 Years Old, While Others
Can't Be Found The Following Day. ~ But I Agree This This Guy Too:
~~~ CSM Jim Corrin~~
"Look up Sen. Blumenthal's record, he had something like 5 deferments then lied about his service. I was a draft dodger, I enlisted...
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~ I Did The Same ~~ ON My 17th Birthday~
When I Completed MY 4 Year Enlistment, With A 10 Day "Early Out',
I Had Too Wait 19 Days Before I Was legally Allowed To Buy a Beer


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A1C Medrick "Rick" DeVaney
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AMAZING: Absolutely Amazing.
SO Stupid The Question, And It's NOT Even From The Bee..
"UPSET"? Was I "Upset"?
How's The Words "Pizzed-OFF" Grab Ya?
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SSG Gerhard S.
SSG Gerhard S.
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One wonders if you actually read the article?
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A1C Medrick "Rick" DeVaney
A1C Medrick "Rick" DeVaney
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SSG Gerhard S. -
Which "One"? (:-)>
I Read The Entire Article; Some Of It Twice Or More, To Help Being Certain Of What I'd Read......I Served USAF 06/29/1961 (my 17th Birthday) Through 06/10/1965
Vietnam Era ~ Cold War ~ Cuban Crisis ~ Assassination Of President John Fitzgerald Kennedy.....
I Just Read Your Bio ~ Nice Records. I Came To Vegas From Lansing, Michigan.
27 Years In Business, ~ Small Printing Business In East Lansing, Lansing & Mt. Pleasant.~ Sold Them Off, Grabbed The Cash & Made The Escape....
I "Hit The Road Jack, And Didn't Go Back No more, No More...."
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SP5 Delphis Kaczowski
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Always remember that our last President Donald (Adulterer) TRUMP evaded the draft with a BOGUS heel spur medical excuse ( NO X-rays taken) from his personal Doctor, yet he can walk on an Eighteen (18) Hole Golf course with no problems. If you think this is honorable he called Nam Vets "SUCKERS".
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SSG Gerhard S.
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SP5 Delphis Kaczowski of course not. I would call them victims of slavery, and as stated in the article, I don't blame anyone for doing whatever they can to avoid, or escape slavery.
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SP5 Delphis Kaczowski
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SSG Gerhard S. - Those cotton fields were in the South & owned by WHITES who were never punished for KIDNAPPING. Want more? Were these Land Barons Republicans? The party of Lincoln is a sick JOKE.
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SSG Gerhard S.
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SP5 Delphis Kaczowski unless you wish to quote what I wrote in the article with which you take contention, you may as well be arguing with yourself. I honestly don't know what you're talking about, and this post was not about politics, so I don't know where you're even getting this from. Please state your case, with context and I'll be happy to engage, so long as it's related to the article. Respectful regards.
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SP5 Delphis Kaczowski
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SP5 Delphis Kaczowski - We are ALL immigrants (except Native American Indians) including The Trump family from Germany (The "Fatherland")=Deutschland.
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SrA Cecelia Eareckson
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1. "Draft dodgers" were young men who fled the country without any attempt at getting a legal deferment I was around at the time.
2. I am absolutely fed up with commenters on all forums who single out one individual for getting a deferment. Bill Clinton got a deferment. Hillary failed to volunteer, and I mention that as a second generation woman veteran. Biden did not serve. Obama did not serve. Yet, one man is singled out.
3. Your thread is about the draft. It was not fairly applied. Among other wrongs, it gutted the African American community, taking healthy young men who would have formed families and been stabilizing influence. My sex was altogether exempt. I enlisted as a volunteer.. It is, however, not slavery. Conscription has been imposed for some tome. I would have to look it up. It's up to leadership at all levels to keep personnel in line.
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SP5 Delphis Kaczowski
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SrA Cecelia Eareckson - Show me the Doctor's certificate.
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A1C Medrick "Rick" DeVaney
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SP5 Delphis Kaczowski -
She's A Piece Of Work
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SP5 Delphis Kaczowski
SP5 Delphis Kaczowski
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Wait until Trump finds out that Ms. Harris is married to a Jewish husband (Doug Ethamp).
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SrA Cecelia Eareckson
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SP5 Delphis Kaczowski - Be ridiculous. It was over two decades ago. And I didn't need any note for work.
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Sgt Michael Clifford
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I am one of those who consider Trump, Biden and Clinton to be draft dodgers. I do not have an issue with education defernments. After all they were just deferments. Many men having completed their education went on to serve and some died in Vietnam. However Clinton did not have any legitimate reason to avoid serving. He played the system.

Both Trump and Biden after they used their 2-S status found alleged medical reasons for deferments. I don't know if Trump's "bone Spurs" were real or not or if they were serious enough to make him ineligble to be useful in some non combat MOS. It certainly has not impacted his ability to play golf. I also object to an individual who having found a way to avoid service himself makes remarks about those who did serve. Refering to them as suckers or losers. He attacks real American patriots like John McCain, Generals Kelly, Milley or Mattis in disrespectful terms while supporting others who attacked the congress as patriots. Men who served the nation for decades.

As for Biden I have not much to say except that his aleged Asthma didn't keep him from participating in sports in HS and college.
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Sgt Michael Clifford
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SrA Cecelia Eareckson - Hillary fails for a lot of reasons.

The onl reason Trump won in 2016 was because more voters had no use for another Clinton than disliked Trump.
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SrA Cecelia Eareckson
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SP5 Delphis Kaczowski - As a second genneration woman veteran, I am fine with that. I separated a few months early to care for my mother, and was classified 4-A. At 71 yo, I could do some filing if recalled. I do not believe women belong in combat, or elite units. Happy?
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SP5 Delphis Kaczowski
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I guess you are saying that you will send your sons to war, but NOT your daughters. If Republicans draft women for the next conflict, do you think the pregnancy rates will go sky high? EQUAL means in everything in our Constitution. Women fought to have the right to VOTE, now let women protect that right, because dictators (like DJT) will take it away. Remember who took away your reproductive rights because more is coming.
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SrA Cecelia Eareckson
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If you can find any mention of terminating pregnancy in the Constitution, do please let me know. The utterly disgusting part is that women now have many options to PREVENT pregnancy. That was not the case whe Roe v Wade ruling was issued. I was around at the time.
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SP5 Larry Boggs
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The draft system when I was drafted in 1968 was a corrupt institution It was applied without any real transparency and families with influence did get their sons exempted I had a college deferment and I did not view that as draft dodging
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SP5 Delphis Kaczowski
SP5 Delphis Kaczowski
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Its NO different today.
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Sgt Michael Clifford
Sgt Michael Clifford
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FYI, there is no draft today.
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SP5 Delphis Kaczowski
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Sgt Michael Clifford - Watch what happens right before your eyes. Only this time the Republicans want to draft WOMEN into the Military. Do you know how to spot a Pathological Liar???? Go watch FOX News & Hannity. How many on that show have been convicted & sentenced along with the New York Felon who is hoping his corrupt Supreme Court Nominees help him.
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SP5 Larry Boggs
SP5 Larry Boggs
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I am well aware that there is no draft that why my I said When I was drafted that m’s past thence say nothing about now
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SPC Medical Laboratory Specialist
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Your arguments could be used for being forced to pay taxes, in a way, and this country rebelled over taxes.

I chose to serve and would do so again and I never really thought about draft dodgers. I honestly never cared. The only times I did not look favorably on draft dodgers of the past was when they bragged about it, bragged about being Jody because they dodged the draft, and did so illegally.

Now, let's bring to modern times.

People voted for the current administration and for policies that support intervention into international conflicts. I would think the worst of those particular voters if they then decided to dodge the draft because they did not want to do the fighting, but rathered someone else fight for a war they supported.

To those that voted against foreign wars? I can respect them because they stuck to their beliefs. I have also begun to view "draft dodging" as a way for these voters to say "fuck you" to the pro war politicians and government.

To each their own. But I'll be honest with my snap decision. Being a draft dodger is nothing to be proud of.
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SP5 Delphis Kaczowski
SP5 Delphis Kaczowski
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Lets DRAFT women & see what happens?????? Isn't that being equal???
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