Posted on Jul 29, 2018
Sinking Standards And Indoctrination: A Veteran's View Of The College Experience
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When I graduated high school I immediately enlisted in the military. After months completing OSUT at Fort Knox, Kentucky, and a brief vacation home for HRAP, I was stationed at Fort Hood, Texas. Over the next few years, my education would come in the form of deployments, field training exercises, structured self-development courses, and professional development schools. I wanted something more though. I looked forward to a time where my career would be at such an optempo as to allow for me to complete my formal civilian education. That time never came. Instead, I found myself medically retired at the age of twenty-four. After a brief stint of wallowing in my own self-pity, I decided to get my life back on track and, ten years after graduating high school, I found myself front and center in a college classroom.
I had previously imagined how college would be. I was never a great student in high school; more often than not, I was a slacker who managed to skate by with good test scores. In my head, I thought that, at best, I would be roughly a B student if I put some real effort into my work. Due to the VA educational benefits that I had earned, I did not have to split my time between working some part time job to pay the bills and use my spare time to complete schoolwork. No, I could completely dedicate myself to my studies. I soon found that my vision of what college would be was nothing close to the reality of it.
I soon found that I was not expected to put in the kind of effort that I had set out to do. Surrounded by hordes of young kids, ranging in ages between 18 and 22 mostly, I was easily one of the oldest people in each classroom. Most of the students didn’t do the assigned readings, turned in homework late, and scored terribly on midterms and finals; did they know something I didn’t? Yes, they did. It would seem that the American education system had morphed from a place to broaden one’s formal education and promote critical thinking to a daycare of sorts where these teenagers and early-twenty-somethings could prolong their childhoods for a few more years while the teachers, in what can only be rationalized as an effort to keep their jobs “useful”, tossed passing grades on to transcripts. Eventually, without learning how to even properly format a paper, these students would graduate with Bachelor’s Degrees in their various disciplines. This is not at all an exaggeration, sadly.
Just recently, I completed a condensed three credit hour course during the summer 2018 semester. I didn’t have to study, I didn’t open up the books after the first week, and I spent most of the lecture time arguing with the professor. I ended up with a final grade of over 99%. How did this happen? Well, because the course was simple to begin with. I was always going to get a low ‘A’, but the reason that it was nearly a perfect grade was because the professor continually added extra points to exams and assignments in order to ensure that every student received a passing grade. If this sounds asinine to you, it should. The idiotic professor’s disgusting and intellectually dishonest practice allowed me to receive a 121% on an exam just so a few more undeserving idiots could pass. This is what the American education system has become.
Now, I have spoken before about a professor that I have become quite close to; in fact, if it were not for our professional, student-teacher relationship, I may go as far as to say we were friends. She has not yet been taken in by this system of inflating grades to ensure the survival of her position, but even she has voiced how the standards that students are being held to are abysmal at best. Reading comprehension is non-existent, the ability to write a coherent paper of over a page and a half is rare, and it would seem that grades are seen, by students, as not earned by virtue of hard-work and demonstrated understanding but rather they are bought and paid for via their tuition. This may be a symptom of the rampant entitlement that seems to be almost ubiquitous amongst this up and coming generation. Sadly, I belong to this generation.
At the very same time that students are being shuffled through their university education, many professors take the opportunity to vomit their vile personal beliefs from the lectern. In the army we always joked about fighting communists as if it were a thing of the distant past, but it would seem alive and well. I never imagined having to defend the American way of life in a classroom and yet, time after time, I find myself defending the constitution, capitalism, and the rule of law from whole groups who believe that the founding fathers had it all wrong. If the fact that students were getting unearned diplomas was not enough to anger me, listening to students and professors preach the many blessings of communism surely did the trick.
After two more semesters I will graduate with my BA in English; I am on track to graduate with honors. I will be throwing my application for admission to a short list of institutions and I have no doubt that I will be allowed to attend one of them. I can only hope that graduate school will not be tainted with the same practices as undergrad.
If attending college has taught me one thing so far, it is that traditional, four year degrees should not be sought by everyone. In fact, I have become a firm believer in the value of technical schools and trades. Were it possible to go into my field, teaching, without a liberal arts degree, I would. What has become apparent is that the often spoken lie that one cannot be a success without a college degree has been espoused so many times that we all seem to believe it and that is sad. I have an entire group of very close friends who have never attended college, some of them dropped out of high school, and they are all on their way to making far more money in their careers than I can ever hope to make as a college English professor. Perhaps we would be better off if students understood the value of some of these careers or at least understood the necessity of hard work.
I had previously imagined how college would be. I was never a great student in high school; more often than not, I was a slacker who managed to skate by with good test scores. In my head, I thought that, at best, I would be roughly a B student if I put some real effort into my work. Due to the VA educational benefits that I had earned, I did not have to split my time between working some part time job to pay the bills and use my spare time to complete schoolwork. No, I could completely dedicate myself to my studies. I soon found that my vision of what college would be was nothing close to the reality of it.
I soon found that I was not expected to put in the kind of effort that I had set out to do. Surrounded by hordes of young kids, ranging in ages between 18 and 22 mostly, I was easily one of the oldest people in each classroom. Most of the students didn’t do the assigned readings, turned in homework late, and scored terribly on midterms and finals; did they know something I didn’t? Yes, they did. It would seem that the American education system had morphed from a place to broaden one’s formal education and promote critical thinking to a daycare of sorts where these teenagers and early-twenty-somethings could prolong their childhoods for a few more years while the teachers, in what can only be rationalized as an effort to keep their jobs “useful”, tossed passing grades on to transcripts. Eventually, without learning how to even properly format a paper, these students would graduate with Bachelor’s Degrees in their various disciplines. This is not at all an exaggeration, sadly.
Just recently, I completed a condensed three credit hour course during the summer 2018 semester. I didn’t have to study, I didn’t open up the books after the first week, and I spent most of the lecture time arguing with the professor. I ended up with a final grade of over 99%. How did this happen? Well, because the course was simple to begin with. I was always going to get a low ‘A’, but the reason that it was nearly a perfect grade was because the professor continually added extra points to exams and assignments in order to ensure that every student received a passing grade. If this sounds asinine to you, it should. The idiotic professor’s disgusting and intellectually dishonest practice allowed me to receive a 121% on an exam just so a few more undeserving idiots could pass. This is what the American education system has become.
Now, I have spoken before about a professor that I have become quite close to; in fact, if it were not for our professional, student-teacher relationship, I may go as far as to say we were friends. She has not yet been taken in by this system of inflating grades to ensure the survival of her position, but even she has voiced how the standards that students are being held to are abysmal at best. Reading comprehension is non-existent, the ability to write a coherent paper of over a page and a half is rare, and it would seem that grades are seen, by students, as not earned by virtue of hard-work and demonstrated understanding but rather they are bought and paid for via their tuition. This may be a symptom of the rampant entitlement that seems to be almost ubiquitous amongst this up and coming generation. Sadly, I belong to this generation.
At the very same time that students are being shuffled through their university education, many professors take the opportunity to vomit their vile personal beliefs from the lectern. In the army we always joked about fighting communists as if it were a thing of the distant past, but it would seem alive and well. I never imagined having to defend the American way of life in a classroom and yet, time after time, I find myself defending the constitution, capitalism, and the rule of law from whole groups who believe that the founding fathers had it all wrong. If the fact that students were getting unearned diplomas was not enough to anger me, listening to students and professors preach the many blessings of communism surely did the trick.
After two more semesters I will graduate with my BA in English; I am on track to graduate with honors. I will be throwing my application for admission to a short list of institutions and I have no doubt that I will be allowed to attend one of them. I can only hope that graduate school will not be tainted with the same practices as undergrad.
If attending college has taught me one thing so far, it is that traditional, four year degrees should not be sought by everyone. In fact, I have become a firm believer in the value of technical schools and trades. Were it possible to go into my field, teaching, without a liberal arts degree, I would. What has become apparent is that the often spoken lie that one cannot be a success without a college degree has been espoused so many times that we all seem to believe it and that is sad. I have an entire group of very close friends who have never attended college, some of them dropped out of high school, and they are all on their way to making far more money in their careers than I can ever hope to make as a college English professor. Perhaps we would be better off if students understood the value of some of these careers or at least understood the necessity of hard work.
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I definitely feel that going back to school later in life, made me a better student academically and professionally. I went to law school years after undergrad (7 years active duty USAF) and took it more seriously due to my age and experience. Thank god for the GI bill which allowed me to do so.
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I am delighted you will be teaching. Your experiences and standards are unique and of great value to those lucky enough to be your students.
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My grad school experience after I left active duty (after six years working) was much different from an effort perspective, but I did see a few similarities with the writing abilities of some of my classmates. My classmates ranged in age from students who started grad school immediately after completing their undergrad in social work or psychology, to working adults of all ages up to early-mid 60s. Across the board, the younger students had less writing ability than the rest of us (I was 37 when I started grad school), which became apparent when we were assigned group projects/papers. I always made sure that my instructors knew which portion of each group project/paper that I prepared so my work and performance was objectively graded and I wouldn't be impacted by the writing ability of others.
The political and social views of my classmates were pretty varied, partially because of the age differences, and partially because of my program of study. I majored in Social Work, with a concentration in mental health and a sub-concentration in military and veteran social work so I had a lot of classmates who were also current/former military, spouses, dependents, etc. I had a few professors who were vocally liberal, but that also has to do with the social work profession in general.
The political and social views of my classmates were pretty varied, partially because of the age differences, and partially because of my program of study. I majored in Social Work, with a concentration in mental health and a sub-concentration in military and veteran social work so I had a lot of classmates who were also current/former military, spouses, dependents, etc. I had a few professors who were vocally liberal, but that also has to do with the social work profession in general.
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SGT Joseph Gunderson
I do believe that grad school is partially shielded from some of these issues by virtue of the fact that usually those attending were the better students in undergrad programs and because most of them are focused on their special areas of study and are probably set in their beliefs enough that profs expend less energy attempting to brainwash them.
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CPT Bobby Fields
I think maturity is a big part of it, as well! I did okay in my undergrad studies right out of high school, but my focus was military science and training so my academic classes didn't get the attention they deserved because I didn't think they mattered as much since I thought I would be in the Army the rest of my working life after college. I was a lot more tenacious as a grad student and wanted to learn the material/profession, which resulted in much better academic performance. If I had my undergrad work to do over, I would have chosen a different major (not liberal studies) and worked much harder.
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Joe,
I completely agree with you. I was medically retired in 2014, and stayed at Ft Hood to get my Bachelor's degree from Texas A&M in Killeen. I already had 2 years of college by this point, so it was a short stint to finish out the degree of 2.5 years. I was in a situation where I had to go back and finish out some common core requirements (like Texas Government) that were required in order to graduate as the state I got my associates degree from did not have a common core requirement.
At first, I went about my studies just like I did in the 90s - studying a 1/2 hour every day on each subject. When I took my first finals at the new school, I was happy with my results, but I also was frustrated at the fact that some of the other students in the class got A's but never once turned in an assignment, didn't participate in class discussions, missed multiple days of class, etc. Those first four classes that I took at Texas A&M had an overall class grade average of above 85%. Now, I'm not saying that the subjects weren't easy, but they seriously were not a challenge. Seemed more to me like they are collecting money from us to pretend like they taught us something.
The grade thing was so de-motivating, that by the time I was in my last two semesters, I stopped studying altogether just to see what happened. I graduated with a 3.66 GPA cumulative throughout my college career, so obviously my lack of caring at that point didn't cause any issues for me. It was so bad that in one of my final semester's classes - Advanced Visual Basic - I only turned in one assignment out of 16 on time, turned in my final project a week late, and did not complete the entire project (just the parts on the Rubrick that I needed to get a C as a grade for the project.) This being said, I still got a high B for the class.
For a computer science major, there is almost no reason for you to get this degree. Go ahead and get your certificates in CompTIA, Cisco, GIAC, Microsoft or whatever. The college thing was only a "foot in the door" kind of thing for me, so truly 4.5 years of my life that was wasted. But hey, at least I didn't have to pay for it, right?
~Doug
I completely agree with you. I was medically retired in 2014, and stayed at Ft Hood to get my Bachelor's degree from Texas A&M in Killeen. I already had 2 years of college by this point, so it was a short stint to finish out the degree of 2.5 years. I was in a situation where I had to go back and finish out some common core requirements (like Texas Government) that were required in order to graduate as the state I got my associates degree from did not have a common core requirement.
At first, I went about my studies just like I did in the 90s - studying a 1/2 hour every day on each subject. When I took my first finals at the new school, I was happy with my results, but I also was frustrated at the fact that some of the other students in the class got A's but never once turned in an assignment, didn't participate in class discussions, missed multiple days of class, etc. Those first four classes that I took at Texas A&M had an overall class grade average of above 85%. Now, I'm not saying that the subjects weren't easy, but they seriously were not a challenge. Seemed more to me like they are collecting money from us to pretend like they taught us something.
The grade thing was so de-motivating, that by the time I was in my last two semesters, I stopped studying altogether just to see what happened. I graduated with a 3.66 GPA cumulative throughout my college career, so obviously my lack of caring at that point didn't cause any issues for me. It was so bad that in one of my final semester's classes - Advanced Visual Basic - I only turned in one assignment out of 16 on time, turned in my final project a week late, and did not complete the entire project (just the parts on the Rubrick that I needed to get a C as a grade for the project.) This being said, I still got a high B for the class.
For a computer science major, there is almost no reason for you to get this degree. Go ahead and get your certificates in CompTIA, Cisco, GIAC, Microsoft or whatever. The college thing was only a "foot in the door" kind of thing for me, so truly 4.5 years of my life that was wasted. But hey, at least I didn't have to pay for it, right?
~Doug
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this is very true statements - first hand experience in UW - if you do NOT do the things he described, you get attacked by the student body for "problematic" views and practices. One day 5 people walked in to class 15 to 25 minutes late, each time, the professor had to stop the lecture, and catch up these students, as the last one came in and the teacher stopped to recap yet again, I exclaimed "oh for fucks sake", I was asked what my problem was, and I said - At this point professor, these chuckle fucks coming in late are effecting not only your time and ability to teach, but my ability to learn, it is disrespectful, rude, and inconsiderate of the people who came to your class on time, there has to be a line where accountability for their actions results in a negative consequence. The entire class, including the professor, started to berate me for having privilege, amongst the lightest accusation, I was then berated for being a tool of the white supremacist colonial machine for serving in the Army. This IS a very scary environment if you deviate from the narrative that is the higher education system.
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Agreed, not everyone needs to go to college, it might be helpful but so is Military Service
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Thank God I escaped, er, graduated from college when I did (1997)! Your story underscores just how our colleges and universities have gone to hell in a handbasket.
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Unfortunately true, it far too many places. I teach at a well-respected midwest university and, thankfully, in a technical field which leaves little room for politics. Most of the liberal arts have become just as you describe. The only way to change it is to have more people who will refuse to do as those you have described, but it is very hard to get in the door if your "attitude" isn't PC. I can only say that I am glad that I am approaching retirement age. Unfortunately, not quite there or I would be gone. We still have a fair number of students who worked/served first and they make for the best students! I have long thought that there should be a required break between high school and college where students can either work for a living or serve in the military (even harder work) before college. That would be the quickest way to begin raising college standards in a real sense.
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"At the very same time that students are being shuffled through their university education, many professors take the opportunity to vomit their vile personal beliefs from the lectern." Yep. This is why I walked away from college a couple of times before finally completing it.
However, it's all about getting a job interview. I worked for quite a while without a degree and it was very hard. Once you have the 4-year degree on paper that our rather shallow-minded society values so much, getting a good job is so much easier.
However, it's all about getting a job interview. I worked for quite a while without a degree and it was very hard. Once you have the 4-year degree on paper that our rather shallow-minded society values so much, getting a good job is so much easier.
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