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Your buddy calls you late at night and tells you about all of the negativity going on in their life. As you listen to them describe his emotional distress, you pick up on some clues that lead you to think that this is a crisis situation. You also remember that they are a firearm owner. You want to ask about their guns because you know it’s not a safe situation under the circumstances, but you’re concerned that they will either hang up on you or, worse, that you’ll put an idea in his mind. What do you do?
People in distress can go from 0 to 60 very fast. Somewhere between 25% and 40% of individuals who attempt suicide make the final decision to act within 5 minutes of the suicide attempt. Nearly 70% make the final decision to act within the hour before their attempt. Easy access to potentially lethal methods for suicide—especially firearms—during periods of intense emotional distress increases the likelihood of bad outcomes such as suicide.
Temporarily limiting someone’s access to firearms and other possible methods for suicide during these periods can reduce the likelihood of a bad outcome, however, it’s similar to how we try to prevent our friends from getting in a car crash when they’ve been drinking. We know that the risk of a car crash increases when someone has been drinking. Because of this, we temporarily restrict access to driving—typically by taking away someone’s keys—when they’ve been drinking. When the person sobers up, we give them their keys back; we don’t prohibit them from driving ever again.
We can prevent suicides using the same mindset. When someone is under a lot of stress, having easy access to a firearm or other methods for suicide can be dangerous. During these times, we can offer to temporarily store a friend’s firearms, medications, or other possible suicide methods until things get better, just like we hold on to their keys when they’ve been drinking.
Here’s an example of how you can raise the issue:
It sounds like things haven’t been going well for you lately. I’m worried about you. Would you be willing to let me hang on to your guns/medications for a while until things get better?
If they don’t feel comfortable with this, consider asking them if they’d be willing to change how they store their firearms or medications instead:
What are your thoughts about storing your guns/medications in a safe or locking them up in another way?
Talking with a friend about locking up or temporarily limiting their access to a firearm or another possible method for suicide can be a difficult topic to discuss, but it can be a simple and effective strategy for helping them get through tough times.
[Video: https://vimeo.com/175761640]
*To learn more about the National Center of Veterans Studies programs visit: https://rly.pt/NCVS
People in distress can go from 0 to 60 very fast. Somewhere between 25% and 40% of individuals who attempt suicide make the final decision to act within 5 minutes of the suicide attempt. Nearly 70% make the final decision to act within the hour before their attempt. Easy access to potentially lethal methods for suicide—especially firearms—during periods of intense emotional distress increases the likelihood of bad outcomes such as suicide.
Temporarily limiting someone’s access to firearms and other possible methods for suicide during these periods can reduce the likelihood of a bad outcome, however, it’s similar to how we try to prevent our friends from getting in a car crash when they’ve been drinking. We know that the risk of a car crash increases when someone has been drinking. Because of this, we temporarily restrict access to driving—typically by taking away someone’s keys—when they’ve been drinking. When the person sobers up, we give them their keys back; we don’t prohibit them from driving ever again.
We can prevent suicides using the same mindset. When someone is under a lot of stress, having easy access to a firearm or other methods for suicide can be dangerous. During these times, we can offer to temporarily store a friend’s firearms, medications, or other possible suicide methods until things get better, just like we hold on to their keys when they’ve been drinking.
Here’s an example of how you can raise the issue:
It sounds like things haven’t been going well for you lately. I’m worried about you. Would you be willing to let me hang on to your guns/medications for a while until things get better?
If they don’t feel comfortable with this, consider asking them if they’d be willing to change how they store their firearms or medications instead:
What are your thoughts about storing your guns/medications in a safe or locking them up in another way?
Talking with a friend about locking up or temporarily limiting their access to a firearm or another possible method for suicide can be a difficult topic to discuss, but it can be a simple and effective strategy for helping them get through tough times.
[Video: https://vimeo.com/175761640]
*To learn more about the National Center of Veterans Studies programs visit: https://rly.pt/NCVS
Edited 6 y ago
Posted 6 y ago
Responses: 38
I have taken this phone call twice.
Both times, I stopped what I was doing and found them - one of them halfway across from Wisconsin from me.
The best defense against suicide when you get the call is to care. Not like say you do, ACTUALLY CARE. They will know if you are feigning interest. Honestly, if they're calling you, it is because you are someone they want to talk to when stuff goes sideways. Rise to the occasion.
Bring in support from trained people as the situation allows, but chances are you are the make or break point.
Both times, I stopped what I was doing and found them - one of them halfway across from Wisconsin from me.
The best defense against suicide when you get the call is to care. Not like say you do, ACTUALLY CARE. They will know if you are feigning interest. Honestly, if they're calling you, it is because you are someone they want to talk to when stuff goes sideways. Rise to the occasion.
Bring in support from trained people as the situation allows, but chances are you are the make or break point.
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1SG (Join to see) - Haven't in several years, but last I heard, he'd married and moved forward with his life.
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Maggie Tamulis
As the mother of a disabled Gulf War 1991 Army veteran it breaks my heart to hear of a veteran who commits suicide...I know that caring is the most important element in helping someone in real "pain" and you sir are someone that is a true friend and a savior to those who have needed you.
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I went thru something like this during basic, talked a fellow recruit out of doing something stupid, we didn't know that another of the group would be the one that did it instead.
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SPC Nancy Greene
Unfortuniately Cowboy, No One is able to Know Who is Actually Contempating Suicide. When THAT thought enters someone's mind,; only God has control of the situation. IMHO
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SPC Nancy Greene
TSgt AnnaBelle Bryan - Great topic AnnaBellle. Extremely difficult to provide intervention when No One Knows Who Needs the intervention...
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There are thousands of ways to commit suicide. Taking or having the law take his firearm will only make him angrier. My best friend committed suicide. I blamed myself for not seeing it coming. I was hurt at first and later became angry at him for doing this. He had a series of bad events that happened within 24 hours back in 1991. We had both retired at the same time and were promised jobs that no longer existed. We couldn't find a steady job anywhere in Fayetteville. He lost his part time job, his wife left him that afternoon and got a DUI later that evening. He shot himself with his M1A Match Rifle in his garage and bleed to death. Some things you can't predict. I consider suicide an act of getting back at people that love you. It is the ultimate act of hurting the one you love. There are many reasons that people do it and I knew two people that did it to get back at their family. I hope that God has mercy on Dave Zavittz and Tommy Harrington that shot himself in 2010 to get back at his wife and girls. Tommy had planned to kill himself when his wife and girls came home from school. He was already separated and just decided to do it. I don't believe taking guns away will prevent suicide. Once it happens they will not get them back and will use another method. Opinions vary......
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SPC Nancy Greene
As a Survivor, I agree with You MSG on some points. You Cannot place Blame upon Yourself. You could Not predict the actions of these men. 'Getting Back' at someone is Extremely Powerful motive, and unpredictable. I swallowed pills to escape 'hen cackling' and presumptions regarding my numerous male friends. 'Jealousy" on the part of female soldiers in my unit. They did Not Know Me; however, their Constant ridicule of me behind my back loudly enough for me to hear, ultimately lead to my actions. I was trying to 'drown' out the unnecessary noise. That was My motivation. No One Knew What I Was thinking, not even Me.
I am deeply sorry for your loss...Fayetteville is a TERRIBLE place ! Being Angry or Feeling Lonely THERE is an 'Accident Waiting to Happen'.
I live about 50 miles from there, and Having to go there, causes Me Extreme Distress. Am overcoming Negative feelings created by Womack Army Hospital. Awesome Dentist in Fayettevile is an Asset in attempting to repair damage caused by Womack!
I am deeply sorry for your loss...Fayetteville is a TERRIBLE place ! Being Angry or Feeling Lonely THERE is an 'Accident Waiting to Happen'.
I live about 50 miles from there, and Having to go there, causes Me Extreme Distress. Am overcoming Negative feelings created by Womack Army Hospital. Awesome Dentist in Fayettevile is an Asset in attempting to repair damage caused by Womack!
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SPC Cherry Allen
RIP to your friend and you are not to blame. When someone wants to kill themselves they will. Only God can prevent. You are brave for sharing such a amazing experience
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SPC Cherry Allen
SPC Nancy Greene Nancy you are a champion of defeat. Most of us are. Thank you for sharing
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