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Posted on Nov 3, 2017
MAJ Montgomery Granger
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PVT Raymond Lopez
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He wants to keep all his medals too!
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MAJ Montgomery Granger
MAJ Montgomery Granger
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Hooah!
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COL Deputy Chief Of Staff
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Understand that he spent time in captivity and they were brutal conditions. He experienced this because he CHOSE to leave his post. He should have spent some more time as a guest of the government. I get it that he gets a dishonorable discharge but, too lenient in my view. In WW 2, he could have been shot.
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SGT David T.
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I can understand the anger surrounding this, but I hold a different perspective. Had he got locked up, we would have to pay for his clothing, housing, education, security, and health care for the entire time he was in prison. At least this way, in 10 months, we don't have to pay for him anymore. This guy is a nobody and really not worth the cost of keeping him in jail. What he did was wrong. No question. But how much money are we willing to dump into him? For every dollar spent to keep him in jail is a dollar not being spent on weapons, ammo, food, and so on. Every cent we spend on him is a BB status on a requisition or a deadlined piece of equipment. I would much rather this outcome and spend the money on good troops who don't walk off.
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MAJ Montgomery Granger
MAJ Montgomery Granger
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Thank you for your comment, SGT. I respectfully feel that values and ethics are more important in this case. We have a warrior code, Army Values, UCMJ, SOP, rules, regulations, guidelines and FM's. If we ignore them or make up our own there are consequences. I believe the best way to save money on this would be the death penalty. I know that sounds harsh, but I believe that is the punishment that fits the crime, especially considering the consequences suffered by innocent personnel because of Bergdahl's actions. Again, thank you for your comment. I appreciate you taking the time to let me know how you feel about it.
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COL Steph Browne
COL Steph Browne
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MAJ Granger, I respect that you feel strongly on this issue. You should, however, deal with the situation as it actually existed, not as you might have wished it to be. The death penalty was never an option for the charges brought. COL Nance was required by the UCMJ to sentence the accused only for the crimes of which he was adjudged guilty and based only upon evidence admitted in court. He did that. End of story.
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SSgt Michael NeSmith
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Definitely was shocked in the decision, and wondering now what is the purpose of the UCMJ if we’re not going to follow through with the justice that is deserved in this matter “ Death seems fair for him”
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SGT Walter Lester
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I agree with you 100% MAJ Montgomery Granger,
I also feel that Col. Jeffery Nance didn't do his job to the best of his ability. He didn't follow the laws and rules of the UCMJ. There is a lot missing with this case and it is because of politics and save face with the higher ups involved. I feel that the judge has signed Burgdahl's death warrant with his sentencing.
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COL Steph Browne
COL Steph Browne
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SGT Lester, you are off base. COL Nance did do his job and he did it well. He followed the UCMJ as he is tasked to do. That you disagree with the outcome does not mean the MJ failed to carry out his duties. COL Nance faced a difficult task in fashioning an appropriate sentence. No matter what he decided, he faced blowback from those who hold strong opinions but do not know the UCMJ nor the difficulty inherent in fashioning a sentence. A little “walk a mile in his shoes”might be appropriate before throwing brick bats.
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SGT Robert Hawks
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I thought the convening authority had to a prove the sentence? The judge is not the convening authority.
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PO3 John Jeter
PO3 John Jeter
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The guilty plea before a judge only (vs a panel) establishes guilt and allows the judge to assess the punishment. I believe the convening authority has a review obligation, but I'm not a lawyer.
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COL Steph Browne
COL Steph Browne
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It is the accused’d decision whether to be sentenced by the MJ alone or by a panel after a guilty plea. Here, the accused picked sentencing by the MJ. The Convening authority must approve the adjudged sentence but he/she may not increase the adjudged sentence.
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SPC Erich Guenther
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This is a horrible precedent for Military discipline and will only encourage the behavior in the future from future Soldiers. The fact he has his lawyer now arguing that the Dishonorable Discharge should be changed to General is even more sickening.
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PO3 John Jeter
PO3 John Jeter
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If I recall correctly, as a result of a federal lawsuit in the 60's, a dishonorable discharge triggers an automatic appeal. The process allows the discharge to be upgraded to a point where the label 'dishonorable' with the associated stigma are removed. The argument being that a dishonorable discharge was equivalent to a life sentence of hardship and discrimination. The truly disheartening part of that is that he will be eligible for health care and possibly VA disability benefits if he is granted his appeal request. His lawyers are arguing that he has (of course) PTSD, and is also suffering from a mental condition that prevents him from reasoning out his options for a given goal.
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MAJ Montgomery Granger
MAJ Montgomery Granger
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The compassion for this poor victim is potentially endless. Bergdahl "Go fund me" is around the corner.
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PO3 John Jeter
PO3 John Jeter
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MAJ Montgomery Granger - I have a donation in mind, but it isn't PC......
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CW5 Edward "Tate" Jones Jr.
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I suspect that the Judge here will get a 'not so subtle" message that he is now terminal in current grade and will quietly disappear into retirement.
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MSG Floyd Williams
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This wouldn't have happen in the Cold War Era.
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SPC Christopher Perrien
SPC Christopher Perrien
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I'll give you a pass because you are old MSG . LOL Don't you recall "Wade E Roberts?
That hurt morale/espirit de corps worse than this incident. Of course we had more morale to lose.
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1st Lt Padre Dave Poedel
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Each era of our military’s history has its defining and symbolic moments. The South Vietnamese officer executing the NVA soldier with a handgun or the naked children with napalm burns will always represent the resistance and confusion about the Vietnam War. I am afraid Bergdahl will be representative of the current war because in spite of all of the selfless service of military service members, will represent how our nation just doesn’t get behind wars anymore. The Afghanistan War could have been a short and well defined response to 9/11 but instead it turned into the longest war in our history. Civillian leadership of the military works when conflicts are well defined and short. Anything more results in pundits creating media that undermines the statements of our leadership. Bergdahl is emblematic of Obama thinking he was smarter than the Generals and the Generals acting dumb. We need a policy that no war can last more than 1 year...period!
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MAJ Montgomery Granger
MAJ Montgomery Granger
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We make war that we may live in peace. President Trump has turned the Global War on Terror into opportunities for PEACE.
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