Posted on May 23, 2014
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CPT Jacob Swartout
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Refuse to listen and take advice from the NCOs
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SFC Network Engineer
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Right on CPT, except, I'd argue it's not listening to the more senior NCOs (SSG and up). A SGT can lead SPC and below, and maybe tell a 2LT how or what he should be doing, but a SSG is where an NCO really starts to shine and has enough developed experience to definitely give advice to a 1LT and maybe even a CPT.
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SFC Patrick Ott
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THINKING
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CPT Battalion Operations (S3)
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I fully agree, listen to your NCOs! I was prior service enlisted in the Marine Corps. I am now an Officer in the Army. The large challenges I faced were one, different branch of the service, there are huge differences that I had to overcome, and also different MOS, being prior infantry, now transportation, need to think a lot differently, I am in the job of supplying the war fighter now, not doing the war fighting. I listened to the NCOs when I was a newly enlisted puppy, and I still listen to my NCOs now that I am running a section. They have vast knowledge and experience I just don't have and never will, its awesome when it all clicks and your section performs like a machine. Can't do it without great NCOs and Soldiers.
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CPT Company Commander (Hhc, Cyber Protection Brigade)
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Let the CPTs lead the SGT on land nav. J/K... Had a LT get us lost when I was a PFC in Korea.
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Wait for it




wait for it





Not Saluting 1LTs!


Sorry guys, should have known someone would go there. HAHA
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SFC Robert Putzer
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This amuses me immensely. Thanks for the laugh Battle!
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CPT Infantry Officer
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Yet another thread linked to "that question"!
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1SG Company First Sergeant
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And this is an old one!!
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SGT Behavioral Health Specialist
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Not forgetting everything they once knew about the Army, so they fit in with the other butter bars.
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MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca
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Thinking that book smart = street smart. Goes hand in hand with what CPT Swartout said and applies in military and civilian life. I was a 2LT right out of college & ROTC w/o prior service. So I have a newly minted degree and 8 months later I finish OBC, I got it all, I know it all!

RIGHT.

Once you actually get on the job at your first duty assignment is when the real learning begins, and as my esteemed colleague points out your NCOs are your best teachers. You have all the technical knowledge and you need to learn how to apply it to the real world. There are a lot of things you need to do to prove yourself and prove to yourself that you have your leadership confidence and though the books guide you, no absolutes from an Article 15 to an AWOL to your unit's Mission & SOP to your CSM's standards can be found in those books.

Learn all, learn well and have fun doing it!
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1LT Cyber Network Defense Manager
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Will do!
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MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca
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Your funeral, so you might as well know now they're right next to cans of squelch in the commo room :-)
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CPT Jacob Swartout
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Remember there are even some very high speed PFCs and SPCs that showed me a few things about my job. Now all of them are SGTs today.
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Sgt Randy Hill
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Sir learning to mix your NCO's technical experience and the managerial experience of your superior officers is what a Lt has to face. Yes I agree we all need to move past the external gratification that a degree provides and start with the realities of military culture.
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