Posted on Mar 24, 2017
GOP health-care bill: House Republican leaders abruptly pull their rewrite of the nation’s...
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It is apparently the Democrats fault that the Republican-controlled (by 21 votes) Congress and Republican Executive cannot pass their own health-care bill.
Leaders take responsibility for the success or failures in their organization.
Leaders take responsibility for the success or failures in their organization.
GOP health-care bill: House Republican leaders abruptly pull their rewrite of the nation’s...
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MAJ Bryan Zeski You bring up a good point. For all that we talk here on RallyPoint about what makes a good leader and what makes a toxic leader, we don't seem to be able to apply any of those standards to our political leadership. We allow our political leadership a wide variety of behaviors that we would call out in just about any other setting.
Trump has the primary qualities of a toxic leader; he's got a grandiose sense of his self worth, a pathological liar (sorry guys, he is), he's manipulative, show's little if any remorse or regret, he's ego centric, doesn't take responsibility for his own actions, etc. I can't imagine that I'd ever want to work for him or in an organization led by him in any setting.
Trump has the primary qualities of a toxic leader; he's got a grandiose sense of his self worth, a pathological liar (sorry guys, he is), he's manipulative, show's little if any remorse or regret, he's ego centric, doesn't take responsibility for his own actions, etc. I can't imagine that I'd ever want to work for him or in an organization led by him in any setting.
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SPC Kevin Ford
That's interesting because real estate transactions are literally used in textbooks as an example of a distributive transaction.
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Cpl Mark McMiller
MAJ Bryan Zeski Wow! I wish you had been around in the 80's and 90's to tell me what to do with my money so I could be a multi-millionaire like I'm sure you are with your vast knowledge of what the S&P 500 was going to do over the next two or three decades. I assume you also invested in Microsoft when they first went public too, right? /Sarcasm off. Hindsight really is 20/20. The fact is that Trump did inherit some money but no one except Trump and the IRS know how much, so none of us, including you, have any way of knowing how much the inheritance impacted Trump's net worth today. But the fact that he hasn't pissed it all away speaks volumes when compared to the vast majority of people who inherit money and do. Trump has always been in the real estate business so his capital has always been tied up in property, making investing it in the S&P 500 somewhat difficult. Trump's businesses create jobs. How many jobs do you think investing in the S&P 500 creates? Hint: None. The fact is it that running a successful real estate business has many more moving parts and is considerably more difficult than simply investing your money in the stock market.
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MAJ Bryan Zeski
Cpl Mark McMiller - My point, which you are intentionally overlooking, isn't that he would have had to invest in any of the great stocks in 1985 - he could have simply invested in the S&P as an average - which has a historical records of success.
If someone gave me $15 million today, I'm sure I could do more with it than President Trump did, yes.
All of the data I have about his loan comes from either what he said or what he put into tax documents. So, if my numbers are inaccurate, it is because he lied about them at some point along the way. That's his bad, not mine.
Can you provide any evidence that "the vast majority of people who inherit money" piss it all away? I'd be curious about those stats. Side note - inheriting is not the same as winning, so trying to work the lotto winners losing their cash into that number isn't going to be the same. But, again, let's see the numbers, I'm curious.
I thought that investing in the stock market was investing in those businesses IN the stock market, right? Which causes them to grow? Which means they provide more jobs. So, investing in the market DOES create jobs. The other half is that none of the people who were screwed by the President's genius in real-estate wouldn't have been cheated by him, had he invested instead of tried to play businessman.
If someone gave me $15 million today, I'm sure I could do more with it than President Trump did, yes.
All of the data I have about his loan comes from either what he said or what he put into tax documents. So, if my numbers are inaccurate, it is because he lied about them at some point along the way. That's his bad, not mine.
Can you provide any evidence that "the vast majority of people who inherit money" piss it all away? I'd be curious about those stats. Side note - inheriting is not the same as winning, so trying to work the lotto winners losing their cash into that number isn't going to be the same. But, again, let's see the numbers, I'm curious.
I thought that investing in the stock market was investing in those businesses IN the stock market, right? Which causes them to grow? Which means they provide more jobs. So, investing in the market DOES create jobs. The other half is that none of the people who were screwed by the President's genius in real-estate wouldn't have been cheated by him, had he invested instead of tried to play businessman.
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Cpl Mark McMiller
MAJ Bryan Zeski - And you are overlooking my point that Trump has always been in the real estate business. A real estate business concentrates on trading real estate and developing property, not investing in the stock market.
You could do more with $15 million than Trump huh? That's a pretty bold statement. What skill set and experience do you have that leads you to that conclusion?
Other than the 2005 tax return recently leaked, Trump has never released his tax returns, and all he ever said about his inheritance was that he got $1 million, so I don't know what you're talking about what he said or what he put into tax documents. Do you have a link to a video or those tax documents that your data is based on?
You could do more with $15 million than Trump huh? That's a pretty bold statement. What skill set and experience do you have that leads you to that conclusion?
Other than the 2005 tax return recently leaked, Trump has never released his tax returns, and all he ever said about his inheritance was that he got $1 million, so I don't know what you're talking about what he said or what he put into tax documents. Do you have a link to a video or those tax documents that your data is based on?
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1stSgt Nelson Kerr
And by that time they will simply just laugh at him. When even the WSJ editorial board slaps down a Republic president his days of being taken seriously are numbered.
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I haven't heard anyone saying that it was the fault of the Democrats. No, this is what happens when you attempt to craft a sweeping reform. It's tough (unless you're Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi who just throw crap at the wall and see what sticks - ...or "We'll just have to pass it to see what's in it"). This is a complex issue made even more complex by the ACA. Not only are we now dealing with the problems of financing healthcare, but also fixing all the problems created in healthcare itself by the ACA. The only rational approach is to fix it incrementally. Fix one piece at at time and test the results before going on to the next. Omnibus bills rarely if ever accomplish any good.
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1stSgt Nelson Kerr
Trump tried to blame the Democrats, it is pure comedy gold as he tries to tap dance and spin his way out of any responsibility for the failure of Trumpcare
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Cpl Tom Surdi
One large step would be to allow people to buy health insurance across state lines. This should foster competition between insurance companies, driving down costs. The second would be pharmaceutical reform, let us buy meds across federal boundaries (i.e Canada) watch domestic prices plummet due to cheaper medications being available.
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CPT Jack Durish
MAJ Bryan Zeski - Yes, I stand corrected, but I stand by the remainder of my comment.
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