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TSgt David Holman
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The principal was right in this one, and if you really want to be in the Army (you are a recruit, you aren't there yet) you will understand very quickly what rules and regulations mean. If there are prescribed guidelines for what can and can't be worn (sounds almost like a uniform regulation) and you choose to go against that standard, you are held accountable for your choice.

That being said, this is another example of people using "patriotism" and "pride in service" as attacks, and in this case, they are wrong. It isn't "unpatriotic" to tell someone that they can't wear something given to them by a recruiter on a graduation gown.
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LCDR Sales & Proposals Manager Gas Turbine Products
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SFC Fuerhoff-Maybe I'm naive, but what's the "everything" we'd have to allow, and why is that a negative? I mean are we really that concerned about high school kids being "uniform"...or is there something I'm missing here?
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PFC Kevin Shelbrock
PFC Kevin Shelbrock
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LCDR (Join to see) - While I understand your question being a generalization about ridiculous standards being put on teenagers, I would like to rebuttal with the thought that the general discipline gained from things as simple as Uniform standard and Dress Code were upheld for a very long time in the world, and in the same era that we see kids acting more and more ridiculous we also see a lack of requirement in discipline based thoughts (such as dress code or uniform standard). While I don't dare say that making keeps maintain dress code would solve their discipline issues, it is indeed a small thing out of a 100 small things we used to due to instill that discipline into people. The more we lax up on all these little things, the more poorly behaved we will see people get.
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LCDR Sales & Proposals Manager Gas Turbine Products
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The discipline and order established by school uniforms is a good idea...one I'm in support of; no issue with any similar thoughts expressed above. I'm a parent-I've got some skin in the game. My only problem with this specific incident is that I believe that along with overly "lax" standards in our schools (and our society at large)...we've also adopted an attitude that caters to the lowest common denominator; sort of the "the just suffer for the unjust" mentality.

In general, I'm of the opinion that you can't "regulate" truly good behavior or values; people have to do what's right because they respect the system. Hand in hand with that is the presence of authority figures who re-enforce those ideals, and have the latitude to decide which is appropriate; a sash honoring a student's decision to enter the Service...or a tee-shirt with profanity on it.
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You're a dick TSgt.
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SSG (ret) William Martin
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Maybe I'm wrong here but if her sash was celebrating LBGTQ rights someone might have wondered she didn't obey the rules but they would not have said anything due to fear of the dark side of political correctness which causes people grief, loss of employment, and even violence.
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SSG (ret) William Martin
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Actually its happened but with foreign flags. The US flag has been disallowed at some schools what other flags have been allowed.
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CPT Special Forces Officer
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SFC Kelly Fuerhoff - How would you know that it hasn't been or wasn't done?
Were you there?
Anything LGTBQ really isn't newsworthy any longer therefore it wouldn't have been mentioned in this article.
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Lt Col Scott Shuttleworth
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I was at a graduation this weekend and was pleasantly surprised. However, it was aprivate schoolsooooo. The Headmaster called out 8 kids for their public service and volunteering in addition to those entering the military. He then thanked anyone that was currently serving or has ever served. It was a feel good moment...realistically it is the anomaly, not the norm.
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Lt Col Scott Shuttleworth
Lt Col Scott Shuttleworth
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SFC Kelly Fuerhoff - Awesome...good to hear more of them are happening. IMHO kids that are joining the military should be set aside if only for a few minutes because they have answered the nations call. Thanks for the share.
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Lt Col Scott Shuttleworth
Lt Col Scott Shuttleworth
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SFC Kelly Fuerhoff - Agreed...my wife is a teacher and a special needs teacher at that...underpaid and overworked. Everybody says they get summers off...well, not so much. My wife works 9 to ten hour days, spends her own money for supplies, and puts up with ungrateful parents most of the time and the pay stinks...if she didn't have a Masters Degree, she would be making lsightly more than a Manager at a fast food restaurant...and she is molding and teaching our future.
I do think though that anyone joining the military and voluntarily willing to put their life on the line knowing we are at war all over the globe and that its not if but when they will go into harms way deserves a little recognition...IMHO.
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