Let's Stop Pretending These Mass Shootings Are A Coincidence

MSgt Steve Sweeney - If it's a creditable threat, I believe they can intervene. They would have to go through the process of obtaining evidence, presenting it to a judge, then getting a search warrant. Of course by the time they do all that, it might be too late.

SSgt Joseph Baptist - I honestly don't believe that higher ups in government are promoting hate crimes. If you were to believe that, than you would also have to believe that Obama was responsible for the mass shooting murders of 5 Dallas police officers because of his rhetoric about police being racist across the country. I don't believe that Obama was responsible for it, just as I don't believe Trump is not responsible for the latest mass shootings.
https://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/obama-war-on-cops-police-advocacy-group-225291

SSgt Joseph Baptist - I believe in those reason for blocking someone. I don't know what the circumstances were, so I can't really give an opinion. We all have to be careful about the reason of "consistently lying" though. Sometimes simply disagreeing can be interpreted as lying.

SSgt Joseph Baptist - I agree, if law enforcement had creditable evidence that any of these mass shooters were planning something, they should have intervened as soon as possible.

MSgt Steve Sweeney - Both shooters were mentally ill. I'm not trying to equate either one's actions with the principles of conservatives or liberals. I am only highlighting the fact that many are pointing fingers at our elected officials to find blame and many others are even trying to equate that this is condoned by one side or the other (in secret or by ignoring some "obvious" connection). Frankly, it sickens me and I'm tired of it. Let me be clear about this... As a conservative, I do not condone the actions taken by either shooter, nor do I think either one of them is carrying out the desires or the will of the responsible people on the left or right side of the political spectrum (to include Trump, Warren, or Sanders). Having a conservative perspective does not make me a neo-nazi white nationalist, nor does it mean I agree with their racists and bigoted practices. On that same note, I also don't believe that most liberals agree with the violent, anti-cop, Antifa practices of the extreme left.

But my other point was to respond to your need to pounce on me when I used appropriate language to point out the APPARENT leftist leaning of the Dayton gunman. I did my research and by now you should recognize from many of my previous posts, that I seek multiple sources when I comment on issues.

MSgt Steve Sweeney - I provided 4 different sources for you to look at. Are you saying this is not true for the Dayton shooter? You have me a little confused here.

SFC Bernard Walko - Spot on. You hit the nail on the head.

Yep. If these politicians want to totally ban guns, are they going to give up theirs, or have their security personal give up theirs also? Are the police going to have to give up theirs?

SSgt Joseph Baptist SFC Bernard Walko - Maj Kevin "Mac" McLaughlin Mass shootings are not the President's fault, no matter who the President is. If that were true, then we should blame Obama for the murder of 5 Dallas police officer's right?
https://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/obama-war-on-cops-police-advocacy-group-225291

SGT (Join to see) - I never said otherwise. I don't blame Obama for the Police Officer killings, but I did criticize his rhetoric against our law enforcement officers. Could it have emboldened people to kill? Who knows? But that's on them. At no time did the President say or imply, go out there and kill the Police.

SSgt Joseph Baptist - I am aware of the history and the true make up of the Nazi origins. The KKK not only had a home in the Democrat Party, they in many ways ran it or served as it's strong arm for things like voter intimidation. Shortly after they were formed they became the response against the Republican led southern reconstruction era and their goal to integrate and provide equal status for Black Americans in the south. This isn't to say there were never any Republican members of the KKK, but it is clear the Democrats owned most of that membership. Today, trying to associate groups like the KKK with the Republican Party is ridiculous. On that same note I do not believe the Democrat party condones them either. They are essentially party-less and more inclined to side with whoever promotes with what they believe promotes their objectives. Problem is, such things fall within both parties and neither side promotes these issues for the purpose of white supremacy.

Maj Kevin "Mac" McLaughlin - I agree, and the same goes for Trump, at no time did he ever say or imply, "go out there and kill anyone who you might hate"