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They probably also believe in the Easter Bunny, but all those folks facing trial and going to prison only have themselves to blame. When they hear those metal bars close on them, that's as real as it gets. All in the name of a Big Lie told by a Bigly Liar.
PO1 William "Chip" Nagel
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CMSgt Al Nall "Karma is a Bitch" "Experience Can be a Harsh Task Master" "Some People Only Learn the Hard Way".
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They believe Q Anon, not a far jump
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About goes along with one I got thru messenger earlier today... I am simply reposting the example of stupidity!

"Since 20 January, there have been no reports of white cops shooting innocent black men - why is that, a Democrat care to explain?"

Truly sad that the media, left or right, pushes their distasteful arguments - which does absolutely nothing for the common good! I mean, I was a Republican until after the riots occurred. I changed myself to be Independent, as I want no part of either side. Those idiots that rioted the US Capital deserve the time they get behind bars. The large peaceful group would have got just enough attention outside, as did those of which did going in and wrecking the place.

This country truly has a lot of healing to do, and it needs to start at the bottom, because the top surely is not leading by example on this one - that's for damn sure!

God Bless my Brothers & Sisters!

V/R,
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PO1 William "Chip" Nagel
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SGT Jim Ramge, MBA Media is About "Headlines" Always Has Been. Always Will Be. Nature of the Beast. Me Personally. I am Just the Product of Evolution in All Things too Include Politics, As a Teenager I had a SLA Poster in My Room. I was Raised a Social Justice Catholic. As a Young Navy Spook I was a Reagan/Dole Compassionate Conservative that was Until I Became a Goon for the Reagan Administration. A Telecommunications/Electronic Warfare/Operational Heavy Hand, Mean F^^ker! Now as a Grandpa I Have Regained My Ground. While the Catholic Church Might Not Recognize Me. I'm One Again a Social Justice Christian. A Hippy Freak with a Deep Understanding of Electronic and Information Warfare.
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CW3 Dick McManus
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PO1 William "Chip" Nagel - I made up the following questionnaire to weed out candidates who seek your endorsement, but who supported political views exemplified by the Qanon believers.

And of course, you and candidates should feel free to explain their answer(s). And even refusing to answer some questions may tell us a lot about the candidate.
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Do you believe we are will never run out of CHEAP oil and natural gas?

Do you believe scientists are wrong about global warming being a very serious threat and the cause is not man-made?

Do you believe the population growth is nothing to worry about?

Do you believe only three bullets were fired at President Kennedy and Lee Oswald fired all three?

Do you believe people have actually seen an alien being or a space ship (aka UFOs from out-space); notwithstanding that people have seen strange things/lights in the sky that are unexplained?

Do you believe that the US government has recovered parts of an alien out-space craft, that aliens brought technology to earth and that is the reason we humans now have it?

Do you believe human civilizations in the past gained advanced technologically that science has only discovered in the past 100 years?

Do you believe that Nikola Tesla invented unlimited, free energy and the energy producing, companies are keeping it secret?

Do you believe that people can somehow predict the future, communicate with dead people, and/or read other people's thoughts?

Do you believe that there may be real ghosts and demons that make people crazy, aka “demonic possessed”?

Do you believe that the US did not really land a man on the moon and/or 12 Americans did not really walked on the moon?

Do you believe our elections can be faked or hacked even if the exit polls results agree statistically with the election results?

Are you troubled by the fact that Nancy Pelosi did not publically speak up after she learned in about 30 private briefings that Bush and the boys were planning to use torture?

Do you believe the Democratic led Congress was wrong for not prosecuting of Bush et al for war crimes, for allowing Gina Haspel to become CIA Director, and for not prosecuting CIA officer Jose Rodriguez for destroying the video tapes of CIA torture?

Are you troubled about all the past presidents who have made war on other nations without a Congressional declaration for war and Obama doing drone attacks (aka a war on terrorism)?

Do you believe economic sanctions placed on other nations by presidents should require a Congressional declaration of war by sanctions?

Do you believe a President Trump should have gotten a Congressional declaration to sell weapons to nations like Saudi Arabia given their war against Yemen and after they killed a US journalist?

Do you believe on 9/11 that all three of the World Trade Center buildings totally collapsed to ground level only due to airplanes and office fires?

Do you believe it is freedom of speech for corporations to give money to candidates?

Do you believe that the holocaust of the Jews did not happen?

Do you believe that our national income tax is unconstitutional?

Do you believe that low levels of fluoride used to prevent tooth decay in our drinking water, is poisoning people?

Do you believe vaccines cause autism?

Do you believe depleted uranium weapons used by the US military did not harm civilians during the wars and long after the wars end?

Do you agree we are in a war on science?

Do you believe we need a new law called “assessor to a pandemic” to punish sheriffs who violates the order of our Governor for social distancing and etc?

Do you believe we need a new law authorizing the Secretary of Defense and/or the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff to protect the Congress and US Supreme Court Justices from a rioting mob if the President does not act?

Shouldn't we be asking every candidate these questions, even candidates for judge?

What other questions do suggest we should be asking?


My answers are all NO except for:

Are you troubled by the fact that Nancy Pelosi speak up publicly after she was briefed in about 30 private briefings that Bush and the boys were planning to use torture. YES

Do you believe the Democratic led Congress was wrong for not prosecuting of Bush et al for war crimes, for allowing Gina Haspel to become CIA Director, and for not prosecuting CIA officer Jose Rodriguez for destroying the video tapes of CIA torture? YES

Are you troubled about all the past presidents who have made war on other nations without a declaration for war by Congress or by Obama’s drone attacks, aka war on terrorism? YES
Do you believe economic sanctions placed on another nations by presidents need to require a declaration of war by sanctions by Congress? YES

Do you believe a President Trump should have gotten a Congressional “declaration to sell weapons” to nations like Saudi Arabia due to their war against Yemen and after it killed a US journalist? YES

Do you agree we are in a war on science? YES
Do you believe we need a new law called “assessor to a pandemic” to punish sheriffs who violate the orders of our Governor? YES

Do you believe we need a new law authorizing the Secretary of Defense and/or the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff to protect the Congress and US Supreme Court Justices from a rioting mob if the President does not act? YES
Early September: "Some White House personnel" are given ciprofloxacin, the antibiotic of choice against anthrax.
Israelis called for a global “war on terrorism” within a few hours of the 9/11 attacks
Israel’s enemies were being portrayed as America’s enemies too. Together, said the Zionists, Israel and America can defeat “the forces of darkness.” Israel’s crude campaign of innuendo and Orwellian projection manifested within a few hours of the 9/11 attacks. Israeli politicians Ariel Sharon, Benjamin Netanyahu, Ehud Barak and Shimon Peres all made public statements calling on the US and other Western powers to initiate a global “war on terrorism,” a term coined by Likudniks in the 1980s.
Israel’s army intelligence service Aman and the former Mossad chief Rafi Eitan trumpeted brazen disinformation shortly following 9/11, alleging Iraqi involvement in the attacks. In August of 2001 the Mossad delivered a propagandistic “warning” to the CIA alleging al-Qaeda and Iraq were working together and were plotting terror attacks on major US landmarks. The neoconservatives, who are for all intents and purposes emissaries of the Israeli regime in the US, went straight to work in the op-ed pages of the Washington Post, the New York Times and other media outlets, attempting to portray Arabs and Muslims generally as the sponsors of 9/11 and the source of all terrorism in the world.
The same pattern of Zionist deception is apparent with the anthrax attacks. Israel’s partisans immediately mobilized a propaganda initiative to link Iraq and al-Qaeda to the anthrax mailings. On various occasions President George W. Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney told reporters that al-Qaeda was likely involved in the lethal mailings.
WE NEED TO GET SPECIFIC AS TO WHEN AND WHO TOLD REPORTERS

On September 23, 2001, at the request of Attorney General John Ashcroft, the government grounded all the crop-dusters in America— over 5,000 planes that ordinarily spray pesticides on crops. The FBI then issued an ominous nationwide alert citing the possibility of a terrorist crop-duster attacks. The next day, before the House Committee on the Judiciary, Ashcroft testified that he had ordered these actions based on information the FBI received that these crop-dusting aircraft could be used "

September 30, 2001: Four Prominent Republicans Make Alarming Comments about Terrorists and WMDs

Four prominent Republican officials make alarming comments about terrorism and especially the use of WMDs against the US:

White House chief of staff Andrew Card says on Fox News, “I’m not trying to be an alarmist, but we know that these terrorist organizations, like al-Qaeda, run by Osama bin Laden and others, have probably found the means to use biological or chemical warfare.”


Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld says on NBC’s Meet the Press, “There’s always been terrorism, but there’s never really been worldwide terrorism at a time when the weapons have been as powerful as they are today, with chemical and biological and nuclear weapons spreading to countries that harbor terrorists.” He suggests several countries supporting terrorists either have WMDs or are trying to get them. “It doesn’t take a leap of imagination to expect that at some point those nations will work with those terrorist networks and assist them in achieving and obtaining those kinds of capabilities.” He does not name these countries, but the New York Times notes the next day that the US military had recently identified the WMD programs in Iraq, Iran, Syria, and Sudan as cause for concern.
Representative Henry Hyde (R-IL), the chairman of the House International Relations Committee, also says on Meet the Press that biological weapons “scare” him more than nuclear weapons because they can be brought into the country “rather easily.”
The New York Times reports that there is no new intelligence behind these alarming comments. By contrast, Senator Joseph Biden (D-DE), chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, says it is unlikely terrorists are capable of making extremely deadly biological weapons. He says that terrorists might have access to weapons that use anthrax or smallpox, but while “There are those serious things… we can deal with them.” [NEW YORK TIMES, 10/1/2001]

Beginning on September 18, 2001 Letters containing anthrax spores were mailed to several news media offices

Two more anthrax letters are sent out between October 6-9th, 2001 to the offices of US Senators Daschle and Leahy as difficulties in passing the Patriot Act continued. The letter to Leahy is mis-routed and not discovered until mid-November. The anthrax spores used in this case were even more refined and more lethal than in the first wave.
, the anthrax letter attacks killed five people and sickened 17 others.
These letters contained the following message:
“09-11-01
YOU CAN NOT STOP US.
WE HAVE THIS ANTHRAX.
YOU DIE NOW.
ARE YOU AFRAID?
DEATH TO AMERICA.
DEATH TO ISRAEL.
ALLAH IS GREAT. “ implicating Muslims as involved in sending these letters.

October 11-29, 2001: General Terror Alerts Issued, Terrorists Said Poised to Attack US ‘in the Next Week’

On October 11, 2001, President Bush uses his first prime-time news conference to give an update on the early stages of the war on terrorism. He confirms that the Justice Department just issued a blanket alert “in recognition of a general threat.” [CNN NEWS, 10/11/2001]

This general threat never materializes. On October 29, the administration warns again of plans to strike the United States “in the next week.” In a quickly called news conference, US Attorney General John Ashcroft says intelligence sources have found “credible” information the nation could be the focus for some sort of terrorist attack within the week. No specific information is provided to the public now or later to explain what information may have caused this alert. [CNN NEWS, 10/29/2001]

The Continuity of Government program was imitated and government officials were moved to secure locations. This action would spread the fear that some secret information not disclosed publicly pointed to a serious and pending likely another terrorist attack.
In an Oct. 27, 2001, report in the London Times, alleged that Israeli security sources said that an Iraqi official met with 9/11 patsy Mohamed Atta in the Czech Republic in April 2001. The report went on to suggest that during the rendezvous the Iraqi official gave Atta a flask of anthrax. The origin of this dubious claim was noted in the article: Israeli security sources. The chief of Czech foreign intelligence, Frantisek Bublan, later revealed that this supposed meeting never took place.
https://martinezperspective.wordpress.com/2014/02/16/were-israels-secret-services-behind-the-2001-anthrax-attacks/
October 29, 2001: Attorney General Ashcroft Issues General Terror Alert

Attorney General John Ashcroft issues a second terror alert for the month (see October 11-29, 2001). The intelligence received by the FBI does not, he says, “contain specific information as to the type of attack or specific targets.” [RICH, 2006, PP. 36]

November 8, 2001: Ashcroft: US ‘Victorious’ in ‘Opening Battle in the War against Terrorism’
Attorney General John Ashcroft claims that “two periods of extremely high threat have passed” without incident. But in 2006, author Frank Rich will note that this assessment is based solely on Ashcroft’s word, since no evidence of actual threats will ever be advanced. [RICH, 2006, PP. 36-37]

December 12, 2001: Ridge Says Terrorist Attacks ‘Could Happen Within the Next Few Weeks’

Tom Ridge, Director of Homeland Security, warns that terrorist strikes “could happen within the next few weeks.” Ridge states that “the quantity and level of threats… have reached a threshold where we should once again place the public on general alert.” He describes the terrorists as “shadow soldiers… a shadow enemy.” [MOTHERJONES, 12/3/2001]

Richard Reid does attempt to blow up an airplane with a shoe-bomb later in the month (see December 12, 2001: Ridge Says Terrorist Attacks ‘Could Happen Within the Next Few Weeks’ On 21 December 2001, Reid attempted to board a flight from Paris to Miami, Florida. His boarding was delayed because his dishevelled physical appearance aroused the suspicions of the airline passenger screeners. In addition, Reid did not answer all of their questions, and had not checked any luggage for the transatlantic flight.

On 22 December 2001, a passenger on Flight 63 from Paris to Miami complained of a smoke smell in the cabin shortly after a meal service. One flight attendant, Hermis Moutardier, thinking she smelled a burnt match, walked along the aisles of the plane, trying to assess the source. A passenger pointed to Reid, who was sitting alone near a window and attempting to light a match. Moutardier warned him that smoking was not allowed on the airplane. Reid promised to stop. A few minutes later, Moutardier found Reid leaned over in his seat. After she asked him what he was doing, Reid grabbed at her, revealing one shoe in his lap, a fuse leading into the shoe, and a lit match. Several passengers worked together to subdue

he became radicalized and went to Pakistan and Afghanistan, where he trained and became a member of al-Qaeda.
Richard Reid - Wikipedia
TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE? Just like finding a car in an airport parking lot with the names of all the alleged hijackers and etc.

Hijacker tried to get U.S. loan to buy plane
Jun 7, 2002 PER Associated Press
Johnell Bryant, a loan manager in the Department of Agriculture's Florida Farm Service Office, recalled after September 11th that Atta came to her office to get a $650,000 cash loan to finance a twin-engine, six-passenger airplane (not a crop-duster.) She said that the man had told her that he intended to build a tank in the passenger plane so he could also use it for crop-dusting. She said that the meeting had occurred in 2000, between "the third week of April to the third week of May of 2000." She was able to fix the date because the Far Service subsequently moved their office to Florida City. Bryant ask Mohamed Atta his name and he wrote down his name and spelled it A-T-T-A-H, and he told her ”No, A-T-T-A, as in Atta boy!”

While no doubt some Arab-looking man made an inquiry about getting a loan during this period, Mohamed Atta was in Germany during that time period, applying for his visa to come to the United States. He did not arrive in the United States until June 3rd 2000. If so, the person who came into Bryant's office to get a loan to buy a passenger plane in April or May 2000 could not have been Mohamed Atta. Bryant reported that Atta was a rather sinister person ready to “cut the throat” of people and that he admired Osama bin Laden.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9a0i91-npyE&feature=youtu.be
More see: http://www.edwardjayepstein.com/nether_fictoid11.htm

The White House propaganda blitz was launched on September 7, 2002, at a Camp David press conference. British Prime Minister Tony Blair stood side by side with President George W. Bush. Together, they declared that evidence from a report published by the UN International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) showed that Iraq was "six months away" from building nuclear weapons.
On the following day on September 8, 2002, Judith Miller reported in the Sunday New York Times wrote, "Iraq has stepped up its quest for nuclear weapons and has embarked on a worldwide hunt for materials to make an atomic bomb, Bush administration officials said today." Miller added the phrase "The first sign of a 'smoking gun,' [these administration officials] argue, may be a mushroom cloud."
The same day Vice President Cheney made the rounds on the Sunday talk shows to advance the administration’s bogus claims. On NBC’s Meet the Press, Cheney declared that Iraq had purchased aluminum tubes to make enriched uranium. He said, "There’s a story in The New York Times this morning, and I want to attribute The Times."
It didn’t matter that the IAEA refuted this claim both before and after it was made.

Headline: U.S. Says Hussein Intensifies Quest for A-Bomb Parts," by Judith Miller and Michael R. Gordon, September 8, 2002.
These reporters quote Ahmed al-Shemri (a pseudonym), who contends that he worked in Iraq’s chemical weapons program before defecting in 2000. " 'All of Iraq is one large storage facility,' said Mr. Shemri, who claimed to have worked for many years at the Muthanna State Enterprise, once Iraq’s chemical weapons plant." The authors quote Shemri as stating that Iraq is stockpiling "12,500 gallons of anthrax, 2,500 gallons of gas gangrene, 1,250 gallons of aflatoxin, and 2,000 gallons of botulinum throughout the country."
However, UN weapons inspectors had earlier stated and US weapons inspectors confirmed in September 2003, none of these claims were true.


Bush administration makes six fake terror alerts to scare the crap out of Americans

March 2, 2002
Five or six times that the Terrorist Alert System was falsely used for political reasons

Sept 11 thru 24, 2002: Threat level raised to orange for the first time: Aschcroft said, "Al Qaeda cells in several South Asian countries have been accumulating explosives since January and may be planning car bomb or other attacks on US facilities". ," President Bush said at the Afghanistan Embassy in Washington. "We have no specific threat to America, but we're taking everything seriously," he said.

Comment: If no specific threat then why raise the threat level? (Did) Bush turned public anxiety into Republican votes (Nov 2002 elections) by arguing that the then-Democratic Senate was "not interested in the security of the American people."

For months, criticism of Bush was put on hold as Democrats scrambled to prove how cooperative and patriotic they were. Typical was House Speaker Dennis Hastert's comment about Daschle's criticism of Bush's diplomacy before the Iraq war. He said, Daschle had come mighty close to giving aid and comfort to our adversaries. http://www.eriposte.com/war_peace/911/911.htm

Senators Back President Bush on Iraq Resolution (S. J. Res. 46), October 2, 2002:

March 17 thru Apr 16, 2003: Threat level raised to orange and activates Operation Liberty Shield: "While al-Qaida remains the principal concern, we are also concerned Iraqi state agents, Iraqi surrogate groups or ad hoc groups or disgruntled individuals might choose to use the time period as well to launch attacks against the United States or against our coalition partners," said Homeland Security spokesman Gordon Johndroe.

Comment: Still trying to sell the lies about links to Iraq and al-Qaeda using the raised terrorist alerts to scare Americans into supporting the war.

19 March 2003, US military invades Iraq (D+1).

May 28, 2004 The latest hype from Ashcroft stating Al Qaeda's is now 90% ready to conduct their next attack on the US (up from the 70% intelligence agencies' estimate).

Attorney General John Ashcroft warned of an attack planned on America for sometime in the coming months. That may happen, but NBC News has learned one of Ashcroft's sources is highly suspect. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5087301/

Comment: Bush's poll numbers are going down after the torture incidents are coming to light, so this is the time to put the fear of god into America. This is the perfect time to try to convince voters that violations of the Geneva Convention could be justified in the face of the new threats.

The New York Times reporter Judith Miller acknowledged in The Wall Street Journal on April 4, 2015 that some of her coverage about WMDs was inaccurate. On May 26, 2004, a week after the CIA and DIA apparently severed ties with Ahmed Chalabi, a Times editorial acknowledged that some of the paper's coverage in the run-up to the war had relied too heavily on Ahmed Chalabi and other Iraqi exiles, who were bent on regime change. Miller story, claimed that trailers found in Iraq had been shown to be mobile weapons labs. However, that claim too was subsequently refuted as false.

July 9, 2004 Ridge Warns of 'Credible' al-Qaida Plot
President Bush's approval rating slipping as a result of setbacks in the Iraq war. On July 8, 2004, Republicans, under strong pressure from the White House, narrowly defeated an effort by Democrats to water down the Bush administration's signature law to combat domestic terrorism, THE Patriot ACT.

By a 210 to 210 tie vote that GOP leaders prolonged for 23 tumultuous minutes while they corralled dissident members, the House rejected a proposed change to the USA Patriot Act that would have barred the Justice Department from searching bookstore and library records. White House officials, citing the nearly three-year-old law's importance as an anti-terrorism tool, warned that an attempt to weaken it would be vetoed.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A37480-2004Jul8.html


On August 1, 2004, just days after the Democratic National Convention nominated presidential candidate John Kerry on a national security platform, the Bush Administration raised its terror threat level to "Code Orange," or high, for certain cities with major financial institutions.

In a press conference to announce the change, which stepped on the Kerry storyline coming out of the convention, Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge described the source of the intelligence that led to the color change:

Ridge said at this time: [W]e must understand that the kind of information available to us today is the result of the President's leadership in the war against terror. The reports that have led to this alert are the result of offensive intelligence and military operations overseas, as well as strong partnerships with our allies around the world, such as Pakistan.

August 20, 2009 Tom Ridge reveals that Attorney General John Ashcroft and Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld argued in favor of raising the threat level by noting the correlation it had with Bush's approval rating:

Neither Mr. Ridge nor any of the department's security experts thought the message warranted any change in the nation's alert status.
http://thinkprogress.org/2009/08/20/ridge-book-ashcroft-rummy/

To understand the import of this admission, we must remember the politically charged mood of national insecurity that dominated in 2004. For months, there had been significant buzz about a possible Al Qaeda attack, which never materialized. The issue became a regular topic of debate and discussion within the media, spreading a message of continuing insecurity that clearly aided President Bush's campaign themes.

A week after the alerts were raised in August, for instance, the discussion of another attack dominated the Sunday talk shows. As CNN noted at the time, "The decision to raise the alert level to orange, or elevated, for specific buildings in New York City; Newark, New Jersey; and Washington, D.C., has been criticized because it was based at least partly on information three or four years old."

By late October, The New York Times was writing about just how little was known about any possible plans for an attack.

On November 10, 2004 just eight days after President Bush was elected for the second time), the Department of Homeland Security downgraded the "orange" alert for the financial services sector back to "yellow". The threat had apparently passed.
http://www.welfarestate.com/wtc/faketape/


Twenty-Three Intel Experts Say LA Terror Plot a Sham
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NewsViewsnolose/message/240
A dirty bomb is NO more dangerous than a regular bomb. We just have to use more care and effort to clean up the mess.
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