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Lt Col Charlie Brown
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NEVER EVER Take anyone else's word about the safety of a gun you are going to use. Check and load it yourself!
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SPC Terry Page
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WHOEVER has possession of the weapon at any given moment is responsible for everything that happens with it until they loose possession. You are responsible for checking the weapon for appropriate rounds in the loading system, action and breach. You are also responsible for everything the muzzle points at and everything behind it.
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SMSgt Thor Merich
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In the real world absolutely. But not in the context of the studios.

The actors do not have the expertise, knowledge, or experience. They don’t know the difference between a squib, a blank, a cap, or a live round. They rely on others to understand the condition of the weapon and the dangers of the particular round in the weapon.
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SMSgt Thor Merich -
Instead of actors remaining ignorant of how firearms work and how to handle them safely, they should be required to learn both before taking on a role where they have to handle one.
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SPC Terry Page
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SMSgt Thor Merich - We're not talking about Expertise; we're talking about a pre-set briefing even a 10-year-old can understand accompanied by the actor demonstrating their ability to check the weapon and follow safety rules (no Mulligans).
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SMSgt Thor Merich
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What folks outside the “Industry” (meaning the movie industry or Studios) don’t understand is that they operate in a different world than the rest of us.

I have been involved with the studios on and off for over 35 years in several different capacities.

For the rest of the world, gun safety ultimately rests with the user. Not so with film making. The end user (the actor) relies on other folks to tell him/her if the gun is safe, how to use it, where to point it, etc…

As much as I dislike Baldwin, in the world of the studios, the blame does not rest with Baldwin the Actor. However, since he is a producer of the shoot (movie) he does take a lot of blame for the lack of safety on the set.

Proper safety takes time. And time is money. Since it was a low budget operation, they cut out safety protocols to save time. It’s as simple as that.

Many folks are trying to understand what happened in this case using the perimeters of the real world. However, movie production doesn’t operate in that same context. So the comparison doesn’t really apply.
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SPC Terry Page
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I hate to say this, I mean really hate to say this... If the "Hollywood" crowd can't police their industry, it should be left to the legislators of the states (non the feds). We're not talking rocket science here; we're talking common sense. If actors can remember a line they can remember safety protocol. You cannot morally delegate away your responsibility.
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