Posted on Jun 26, 2017
Disgraced Army general fired after 'inappropriate' relationship with young woman on staff
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This is a leadership faiure. When the CSM tells you that you're messing up....there's a hint there that should be followed stronger than any other person in the Division. Although others told him the same, the CSM IS your right hand man or woman to keep the Division in check, and careers moving forward...to include the commanders. This is where the NCO Corps stepped up, an ego got in the way, and that ego along with his own "self importance", cost him a job, a star, and a career. I hope going forward, officers coming up look at this beyond his peers talking, but the one man who has his ear all the time doing what he needed to do to help, and what he needed to do to ensure the Division is led properly and objectively. Sad day for him, great day for the BRO, the NCO Coprs, and the Army. DUTY FIRST...DANGER FORWARD!!!!
Disgraced Army general fired after 'inappropriate' relationship with young woman on staff
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Warren, I just read this to my retired full bird colonel active-duty friend living in Hawaii.
You are spot-on excellent ,excellent commentary about how the CSM and the NCO Corps try to do the right thing but this General wouldn't listen! Thank you Warren!
You are spot-on excellent ,excellent commentary about how the CSM and the NCO Corps try to do the right thing but this General wouldn't listen! Thank you Warren!
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No excuses...I don't care about the deployments...hell it puts a strain on every Airman, Soldier, Sailor, Marine, or Coastie every dang day. As a leader at any level there is no excuse for this type of behavior...especially at his level...and to not listen to his knights of the roundtable at that...they are there to advise and assist and he turned away from their advice. Hope your ego can pay the bills after your wife gets done with you.
One of my mentors told me one time that when you are tempted, and you will be, about face and run like hell. Don't say goodbye, don't say I'll call you, don't say anything...just get away. There is no relationship outside of your marriage or your career that is worth your career. This General may have been one of the greatest and done a 1000 great things but he will be remembered for this one bad thing. He also told me when I was a young officer...listen to your NCO's...they know the pulse of the unit and they will keep you out of trouble if you let them. he didn't and see where it got him.
One of my mentors told me one time that when you are tempted, and you will be, about face and run like hell. Don't say goodbye, don't say I'll call you, don't say anything...just get away. There is no relationship outside of your marriage or your career that is worth your career. This General may have been one of the greatest and done a 1000 great things but he will be remembered for this one bad thing. He also told me when I was a young officer...listen to your NCO's...they know the pulse of the unit and they will keep you out of trouble if you let them. he didn't and see where it got him.
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Yeah sergeant majors are also known to be good grass guards and at Fort Dix they tell you do not bring your backpacks or helmet bags to the dfac because it gives them PTSD of mosul in 2004 LOL just kidding period I think they want to punish an NCO school and cgsoc students so they don't take any fruit or chocolate muffins back to their dorms LOL
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SSG Warren Swan - they get on your case if you don't have your safety strap on your top-heavy 5 ton or God help you if you forget your reflective belt while doing the APFT in the daytime. They will also get on your case if you're wearing sunglasses and you happen to put them on your soft cap.LOL
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SSG Warren Swan
LTC (Join to see) - Sir...there is a CSM/SGM glowing at you, using the CSM/SGM network to find the one closest to you. You're going to walk outside and see one with a tape measure, a bad attitude, and him about to yell "AT EASE"...as you tell him "AT EASE"....you forgot the chalk block and drip pan for your POV
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Oh gee, instead of getting 200k/year retirement, now he'll onlyget 175k. /sarcasm. Seriously, that doesn't seem like punishment enough for the betrayal of trust, but I'm just an armchair admiral.
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SSG Warren Swan
MAJ (Join to see) - but this level of disregard should not go unpunished nor should it be allowed. With all the ignorant briefings we go through and fraternization being one of em, he knew that perception is everything, and chose not to address it. I've never met a CSM that waddled into the O's lane unless something was REALLY FUBAR'D.....somewhere, somehow, it was. Along with the rest of the staff they told him. No junior troop or officer would've gotten away with it, and no matter his rank or length of service should he. If RHIP is in the regs, can you cite it please?
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SSG Warren Swan - It DIDN'T go unpunished. The man was fired. He was stripped of his command and shown the door. I completely agree that he should be punished. And he was.
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SN Greg Wright
MAJ (Join to see) - Strip him of it all, no, of course not. But I wouldn't have felt sorry if we'd seen Colonel in the offing, rather than BG. But, I'm just an armchair Admiral. It's easy to judge.
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