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PO1 Mike Edgecomb
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As a former carrier Sailor, my heart says keep them in Service. But I know the cost is prohibitive to replace the complete reactor(s) and all the equipment. Throughout the ship - wiring gets old , insulation degrades, pipes corrode internally, fixtures age, moving parts wear internally, and become out of tolerance and dangerous. I would guess the cost of replacing the reactors, and rewiring and re plumbing the ship would approach the cost of a new carrier. The cost of a carrier mid-life overhaul, including refueling, is in the neighborhood of a 3.3 Billion Dollars without a core replacement.

One estimate that I heard for mitigating the environmental concerns in an old carrier was $66 Million. if that is true that is why they pay a ship breaker to take them for a penny. The ship breaker is then responsible for environmental mitigation

It is still sad to see these majestic warships torn apart.
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Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS
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I'll give them $5 for the lot.
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PO1 Mike Edgecomb - When you mentioned the insulation degrading and pipes corroding, I thought you were talking about me!
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LTC Stephen C.
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SrA (Join to see), perhaps CMDCM Gene Treants or PO1 (Join to see) can shed some light on the subject. I would think the cost is likely prohibitive compared to the use they could actually get from upgrading the ship.
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CMDCM Gene Treants
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A ship, any ship can be a thing of beauty. However, it takes a lot of money to maintain her, and not just for paint and makeup. The other problem is Fatigue, and I am not just talking the feeling we get as we reach the end of the day. I am talking Metal Fatigue from fighting the Ocean on a daily basis.

I am very passionate about my ships and want to see them all live forever and fight forever, but I am a realist. After 30 years in Navy, my knees have very little useful life, but they can be replaced. After 20 to 40 years at sea the hull of a ship is warped and bent and it can be fatal to the ship and the crew. Microscopic cracks can open up, plates can warp and shift, cable runs may split, and a host of other unthinkable problems my happen. Many ships have a projected life of 20 or 30 years when built, some get an extended life through major overhauls, but very few (except Constitution), last more than 3 or 4 decades.

I built (precom crew of USS Anzio (CG-68)) a ship in the early 1990's and she is now OLD by some standards because she has been ridden hard over her life as a cruiser. The biggest problems with the AEGIS Cruisers (IMHO) was in the design to keep them under 10,000 tons and therefore not Battleships; they were built on Spruance-class destroyer hulls instead of redesigning them from the keel up. By using a design already in production, Navy saved money, but this hull never really has stood up to the added weight of the Cruisers. (But I digress.)

Ships have a service life. You can extend that life temporally by repairs and extended yard periods, but eventually the metal wears out. then you have to either make a museum or scrap them.
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LTC Stephen C.
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Thanks for the answer, CMDCM Gene Treants!
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Thanks Master Chief.. Your insight is always helpful and a great history lesson on the Naval side of things...
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MSgt Robert "Rock" Aldi
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CMDCM Gene Treants; Masterchief, excellent information many of us landlubbers don't know/realize. After reading thru your post a few times, I can only IMAGINE what a submarine hull experiences over its life also.
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SFC Joseph James
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Give one to the Army so at least for one post we won't have to mow the grass! Sergeant Major will only yell "Stay off my Flight Deck"!
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You sir have won the internet for today
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SFC Joseph James
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Thank you SrA (Join to see)! I serve to please!
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