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Really, we're resorting to bedtime boogeyman stories that anti-Trumpers tell their children to scare them into behaving.
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CPT Alexander Grant
those children and their parents should be scared. the white house website removed all the pages about climate change so they obviously don't care enough about whether there will be a planet left for them to inhabit
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Maj John Bell
CPT Alexander Grant - Until a viable energy source is developed, fossil fuels are here to stay. They make possible levels of food production, food distribution, food storage, and food sanitation. Without fossil fuels we probably couldn't sustain a world population above 1 billion.
If I said "those climate changers won't be happy until they kill off 80%+ of the world population and plunge us back into the dark ages", what would you think? You would be right to say I was wrong, that is not what you want. You might even be right to call me an ass.
So let's stop this nonsense that people who deny man-made climate change want to destroy life on Earth, or just don't care. That is not true and it is not intellectually honest. I won't demonize you if you won't demonize me. Just stop it.
There has always been climate change, world changing climate change. It happened before man existed, before man knew how to use fossil fuels, and it will happen after man is gone.
All the mathematical computer models that depict global disaster have one potential fatal flaw. Computer models are very good at showing what happens within known data points, (interpolation). They are reasonably good at predicting results near to the known data (near point extrapolation) and they become wildly inaccurate at far point extrapolation. Throw on to it the complexity of the system. Just how many variables are there in the weather system? Does their importance grow or diminish linearly, or exponentially? Are there trip points where those governing mathematical assumptions change?
Trust me, if we have the simulation nailed down that tight then we are just a few decades away from man-DIRECTED climate change. The Sahara desert will be covered in gluten free grain fields and flowers and hunger and poverty will become a thing of the past.
If I said "those climate changers won't be happy until they kill off 80%+ of the world population and plunge us back into the dark ages", what would you think? You would be right to say I was wrong, that is not what you want. You might even be right to call me an ass.
So let's stop this nonsense that people who deny man-made climate change want to destroy life on Earth, or just don't care. That is not true and it is not intellectually honest. I won't demonize you if you won't demonize me. Just stop it.
There has always been climate change, world changing climate change. It happened before man existed, before man knew how to use fossil fuels, and it will happen after man is gone.
All the mathematical computer models that depict global disaster have one potential fatal flaw. Computer models are very good at showing what happens within known data points, (interpolation). They are reasonably good at predicting results near to the known data (near point extrapolation) and they become wildly inaccurate at far point extrapolation. Throw on to it the complexity of the system. Just how many variables are there in the weather system? Does their importance grow or diminish linearly, or exponentially? Are there trip points where those governing mathematical assumptions change?
Trust me, if we have the simulation nailed down that tight then we are just a few decades away from man-DIRECTED climate change. The Sahara desert will be covered in gluten free grain fields and flowers and hunger and poverty will become a thing of the past.
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SGT Anna Kleinschmidt
My main concerns are the regulations that are there for the safety for all of us. Things that we know kill. Companies that want to save a buck by dumping toxic waste in a land fill that seeps into the water supply and causes cancer. Addition to the level of smog so no one can breath. Our basic quality of life now and the near future as well as future generations. We do need to salvage some resources. We have had more earth quakes that are felt in the last year where I live than in my entire life and some have caused real damage. (I don't live near a fault line) due to fracking this is a huge problem and this is being encouraged and will be increased by this admin. I have family that live in areas that are at the epicenter of these events and have endured severe damage to their homes and have only experienced earthquakes in the last few years but lived there over 50 years. This is proof that we are destroying our environment! Maj John Bell -
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Maj John Bell
SGT Anna Kleinschmidt - "It’s important to understand what fracking does and does not do:
- Fracking is generally NOT the cause of induced earthquakes. Wastewater and produced water disposal is the primary cause of the recent increase in earthquakes in the central United States associated with fracking
- Not all wastewater injection wells induce earthquakes
- Wastewater is produced at all wells, not just fracking sites
- Induced earthquakes can occur at significant distances from injection wells and at different depths
On the other hand, fracking is responsible for the dramatic drop in carbon emissions in America because it has provided enough gas at cheap prices for natural gas to replace coal. Our emissions are now at a 27-year low."
http://www.forbes.com/sites/jamesconca/2016/09/07/the-connection-between-earthquakes-and-fracking/#3f1b55fa7f65
- Fracking is generally NOT the cause of induced earthquakes. Wastewater and produced water disposal is the primary cause of the recent increase in earthquakes in the central United States associated with fracking
- Not all wastewater injection wells induce earthquakes
- Wastewater is produced at all wells, not just fracking sites
- Induced earthquakes can occur at significant distances from injection wells and at different depths
On the other hand, fracking is responsible for the dramatic drop in carbon emissions in America because it has provided enough gas at cheap prices for natural gas to replace coal. Our emissions are now at a 27-year low."
http://www.forbes.com/sites/jamesconca/2016/09/07/the-connection-between-earthquakes-and-fracking/#3f1b55fa7f65
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Tough to read and creative as it downplays the realities of politics on society, focusing mostly on economics for the next few years instead of what the political scene will generate.
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