Posted on Oct 19, 2023
Judge: ‘You have a choice – your husband or your guns’
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I don't like the result here at all. I can't fault the Judge much though.
I find fault with the Wife and Son for not doing an interdiction on a long time addict, and getting him the Mental health treatment He needed. I took my self off of the regular taking of Oxy cold turkey. I have a prescription bottle in the Medicine cabinet for really bad days, I might take two of them in a months time. If you or someone you know needs help, get it. Do whatever is necessary to get clean. Your mind and Body will thank you.
Back to the article; i think the Judge could have opted for individual biometric containers for storage that the Husband didn't have access to as a 1st line. Since the judge made her sign away her Rights. When the husband passes or if they split up, highly unlikely at this point in their lives, but not out of the question, This woman is going to have to run a gauntlet to get those Rights back. But that's just my opinion.
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I find fault with the Wife and Son for not doing an interdiction on a long time addict, and getting him the Mental health treatment He needed. I took my self off of the regular taking of Oxy cold turkey. I have a prescription bottle in the Medicine cabinet for really bad days, I might take two of them in a months time. If you or someone you know needs help, get it. Do whatever is necessary to get clean. Your mind and Body will thank you.
Back to the article; i think the Judge could have opted for individual biometric containers for storage that the Husband didn't have access to as a 1st line. Since the judge made her sign away her Rights. When the husband passes or if they split up, highly unlikely at this point in their lives, but not out of the question, This woman is going to have to run a gauntlet to get those Rights back. But that's just my opinion.
SGT James Murphy, CPT Jack Durish,
SPC Gary Welch, SGT Mark Anderson,
CPL Douglas Chrysler, LTC Trent Klug,
CSM Charles Hayden, SMSgt David A Asbury,
SSG William Jones, MSgt Robert "Rock" Aldi
SSG Michael Noll, MAJ Dale E. Wilson, Ph.D.
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Judge: ‘You have a choice – your husband or your guns’
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This is absolutely, positively, and in every way, WRONG.
The judge abused his power and should be fired.
Yes, the felony guilty plea removes Mr. Marok's 2A rights. But not hers. Making her relinquish her concealed carry permit and sign away 2A rights is wrong.
True, she can't have guns in the house. That doesn't mean she shouldn't be allowed to have them elsewhere.
I am a gun owner. I keep a rifle in my bedroom. When my brother-in-law got out of jail, he used our home as a transitional home while he re-establzished himself. Did I have to surrender my rifle? Nope. Just stored it at father-in-law's home for a year, then picked it back up after brother-in-law moved out. And I could have easily picked ked it up and gun hunting or shooting any time I wanted.
There is absolutely no reason Ms. Mark could not do the same. Forcing this decision - and on the spot, too, with no chance for legal counsel - is just plain wrong.
The judge abused his power and should be fired.
Yes, the felony guilty plea removes Mr. Marok's 2A rights. But not hers. Making her relinquish her concealed carry permit and sign away 2A rights is wrong.
True, she can't have guns in the house. That doesn't mean she shouldn't be allowed to have them elsewhere.
I am a gun owner. I keep a rifle in my bedroom. When my brother-in-law got out of jail, he used our home as a transitional home while he re-establzished himself. Did I have to surrender my rifle? Nope. Just stored it at father-in-law's home for a year, then picked it back up after brother-in-law moved out. And I could have easily picked ked it up and gun hunting or shooting any time I wanted.
There is absolutely no reason Ms. Mark could not do the same. Forcing this decision - and on the spot, too, with no chance for legal counsel - is just plain wrong.
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SGM Erik Marquez
"True, she can't have guns in the house."
NOT TRUE, she can not have guns in the house the husband HAS ACCESS to. That is not a guess on my part, it is an accusation and then court decided my legal right to have a gun regardless of whether a restricted felon or person on parole forbidden from having possession of a firearm was upheld.. The gun could be on my person, or in a locked container either was eliminating access to the restricted person to a firearm.
NOT TRUE, she can not have guns in the house the husband HAS ACCESS to. That is not a guess on my part, it is an accusation and then court decided my legal right to have a gun regardless of whether a restricted felon or person on parole forbidden from having possession of a firearm was upheld.. The gun could be on my person, or in a locked container either was eliminating access to the restricted person to a firearm.
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MAJ Byron Oyler
SGM Erik Marquez - This situation would be no different than NFA items that if you are not on the trust they must be locked out of the access of the person not on said trust.
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SFC Casey O'Mally
SGM Erik Marquez You are right. Let me rephrase...
I removed my rifle from my home for HIS benefit (the felons), not mine. I could legally keep the rifle, but if the PO THOUGHT he had access, while he was on parole, his ass was grass, whether or not he DID have access.
Same for Ms. Marok. I am sure she would prefer to not have funs in the home, just to be safe and make sure there was absolutely no doubt about Mr. Marok's access, at least while he was still on probation.
The key here is access, and anti-gun prosecutors, much like BATFE, will twist words as much as necessary to make (cuurently) law-abiding citizens into criminals.
"Did you ever shower Ms. Marok?"
Of course I did.
"And where was the gun while you were showering, Ms. Marok?"
In the safe, of course.
"And where was the key to the safe, Ms. Marok?"
It doesn't have a key, it is a combination.
"And do you know, for absolutely certainty, that Mr. Marok has not figured out the combination? Remember, you are under oath."
Well, I never gave him the combination.
"But is it possible, Ms. Marok, that during your many showers you admit to having taken, he figured out the combination?"
I guess it is possible.
"A-ha! You see, ladies and gentlemen of the jury, even the defendant's own wife admits she could not prevent access with 100% certainty. I submit to you, that Mr. Marok, by his wife's own admission, had access to a firearm in violation of his probation."
Is it far-fetched? Absolutely. Would I put it past some of our shadier DAs? No. No, I would not.
That's why I say she couldn't have a weapon in the home. Not because she legally could not. But because better judgment (IMHO) would opt not to, at least while he is on probation. Parole and probation are a LOT easier to "violate" and send folks to jail for.
I removed my rifle from my home for HIS benefit (the felons), not mine. I could legally keep the rifle, but if the PO THOUGHT he had access, while he was on parole, his ass was grass, whether or not he DID have access.
Same for Ms. Marok. I am sure she would prefer to not have funs in the home, just to be safe and make sure there was absolutely no doubt about Mr. Marok's access, at least while he was still on probation.
The key here is access, and anti-gun prosecutors, much like BATFE, will twist words as much as necessary to make (cuurently) law-abiding citizens into criminals.
"Did you ever shower Ms. Marok?"
Of course I did.
"And where was the gun while you were showering, Ms. Marok?"
In the safe, of course.
"And where was the key to the safe, Ms. Marok?"
It doesn't have a key, it is a combination.
"And do you know, for absolutely certainty, that Mr. Marok has not figured out the combination? Remember, you are under oath."
Well, I never gave him the combination.
"But is it possible, Ms. Marok, that during your many showers you admit to having taken, he figured out the combination?"
I guess it is possible.
"A-ha! You see, ladies and gentlemen of the jury, even the defendant's own wife admits she could not prevent access with 100% certainty. I submit to you, that Mr. Marok, by his wife's own admission, had access to a firearm in violation of his probation."
Is it far-fetched? Absolutely. Would I put it past some of our shadier DAs? No. No, I would not.
That's why I say she couldn't have a weapon in the home. Not because she legally could not. But because better judgment (IMHO) would opt not to, at least while he is on probation. Parole and probation are a LOT easier to "violate" and send folks to jail for.
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