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Because when I cross a suspension bridge, I immediately think "who needs calculus."
Do you want BIPOC students to pursue professional degrees in STEM professions, or do you want them confined to liberal arts majors. Can the left PUHLEEEEEEZE think about the natural consequences of the things about to come out of their mouths?
Do you want BIPOC students to pursue professional degrees in STEM professions, or do you want them confined to liberal arts majors. Can the left PUHLEEEEEEZE think about the natural consequences of the things about to come out of their mouths?
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I don't hold opinions or beliefs about people's backgrounds or their academic pursuits. I believe that every individual should have the freedom to choose their field of study based on their interests, passions, and abilities, regardless of their race or ethnicity. https://www.mypennmedicine.ltd/
STEM fields can offer promising career opportunities, and it's important to encourage and support students of all backgrounds who wish to pursue these careers. However, it's also essential to recognize that pursuing a career in the liberal arts can be just as fulfilling and meaningful.
Ultimately, it's up to each individual to decide what path to take, and it's important to support them in their choices, rather than confining them to particular fields based on their background or identity.
STEM fields can offer promising career opportunities, and it's important to encourage and support students of all backgrounds who wish to pursue these careers. However, it's also essential to recognize that pursuing a career in the liberal arts can be just as fulfilling and meaningful.
Ultimately, it's up to each individual to decide what path to take, and it's important to support them in their choices, rather than confining them to particular fields based on their background or identity.
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Maj John Bell
I can't tell if you're agreeing with me, disagreeing with me or using me as a springboard for a point that you have not made clear.
I do hold opinions about people's academic pursuits. If you want to pursue a career in the STEM professions, you are most likely going to need calculus. That has absolutely zero to do with race, ethnicity, religion, etc. etc. etc.
Nor did anything I say diminish someone's choice to pursue a liberal arts degree.
The difference between a liberal arts education and a STEM education is minimal for the 1st three semesters of a 4-year college degree. Many college freshman enter college without knowing what their field of study will be, or they change their mind as they are exposed to the possibilities.
Eliminating high school calculus makes the gateway to STEM professions tighter and narrows the possibilities of the future. It is the opposite of supporting students in their choices. You cannot make choices for which you are unaware or unprepared.
From the article:
"...some in education say it’s time to reconsider this de facto requirement: Many schools — particularly those serving large numbers of Black, Hispanic or low-income students — don’t offer the course. And even when they do, it’s of dubious value, they say."
There are two things wrong with that quote.
1) Why don't schools serving large numbers of Black, Hispanic or low-income students offer the course? If there is an assumption that Black, Hispanic or low-income students cannot grasp calculus, that is a racist/elitist premise pure and simple.
If there is an assumption that Black, Hispanic or low-income students aren't interested in calculus, so what, neither are 99.9% of any of the kids in school.
What did you study in high school that you would have studied if it wasn't about graduating. Kids don't go to school to study what they want. They go to school to learn how to learn, to learn how to function in a larger community, to broaden their horizons and to prepare themselves for opportunities that they aren't even aware of yet.
2)When a high school offers calculus it of "dubious value." WTF!?!?! That is not an indictment of higher math, at least not by a thinking person. So, I'll run with the assumption that calculus is poorly taught in schools serving large numbers of Black, Hispanic or low-income students. If that is the case, some administrators and teachers should lose their jobs. There are finite resources available for the public education of our children they should be spent in credible, effective and meaningful efforts.
I do hold opinions about people's academic pursuits. If you want to pursue a career in the STEM professions, you are most likely going to need calculus. That has absolutely zero to do with race, ethnicity, religion, etc. etc. etc.
Nor did anything I say diminish someone's choice to pursue a liberal arts degree.
The difference between a liberal arts education and a STEM education is minimal for the 1st three semesters of a 4-year college degree. Many college freshman enter college without knowing what their field of study will be, or they change their mind as they are exposed to the possibilities.
Eliminating high school calculus makes the gateway to STEM professions tighter and narrows the possibilities of the future. It is the opposite of supporting students in their choices. You cannot make choices for which you are unaware or unprepared.
From the article:
"...some in education say it’s time to reconsider this de facto requirement: Many schools — particularly those serving large numbers of Black, Hispanic or low-income students — don’t offer the course. And even when they do, it’s of dubious value, they say."
There are two things wrong with that quote.
1) Why don't schools serving large numbers of Black, Hispanic or low-income students offer the course? If there is an assumption that Black, Hispanic or low-income students cannot grasp calculus, that is a racist/elitist premise pure and simple.
If there is an assumption that Black, Hispanic or low-income students aren't interested in calculus, so what, neither are 99.9% of any of the kids in school.
What did you study in high school that you would have studied if it wasn't about graduating. Kids don't go to school to study what they want. They go to school to learn how to learn, to learn how to function in a larger community, to broaden their horizons and to prepare themselves for opportunities that they aren't even aware of yet.
2)When a high school offers calculus it of "dubious value." WTF!?!?! That is not an indictment of higher math, at least not by a thinking person. So, I'll run with the assumption that calculus is poorly taught in schools serving large numbers of Black, Hispanic or low-income students. If that is the case, some administrators and teachers should lose their jobs. There are finite resources available for the public education of our children they should be spent in credible, effective and meaningful efforts.
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