Posted on May 11, 2020
The Marine Corps: Always faithful — to white men
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Interesting Opinion Piece from the Marine Times
The Marine Corps: Always faithful — to white men
Posted from marinecorpstimes.com
Marines
Racism
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It's a hard nut to crack, it really is. A lot of those things he mentioned like ability to swim, marksmanship, land navigation have to do with the Marine's background before they get to the Corps. It's society wide and has not only to do with race but socioeconomic status.
How does the Corps fix the greater problems of social inequality and entrenched bias in society? I really don't know. The quotas, as we see, have their own problems.
How would you take a person who had personal trainers and make a "fair" race with some random kid off the street who only had gym class? I mean, sometimes that random kid is going to be some superstar with innate natural abilities. but most of the time, and all other things being equal, that person with the personal trainers is going to crush the competition. The only "solution" I can see is to give the random guy personal trainers too and time to train. From the Corps POV what this really means is increasing the training time and cost for all the jr. officers. I don't think they are going to do that and even then the advantages are so pervasive that it is probably a huge rat hole to dive into.
It doesn't make it right, it just makes it a hard nut to crack.
How does the Corps fix the greater problems of social inequality and entrenched bias in society? I really don't know. The quotas, as we see, have their own problems.
How would you take a person who had personal trainers and make a "fair" race with some random kid off the street who only had gym class? I mean, sometimes that random kid is going to be some superstar with innate natural abilities. but most of the time, and all other things being equal, that person with the personal trainers is going to crush the competition. The only "solution" I can see is to give the random guy personal trainers too and time to train. From the Corps POV what this really means is increasing the training time and cost for all the jr. officers. I don't think they are going to do that and even then the advantages are so pervasive that it is probably a huge rat hole to dive into.
It doesn't make it right, it just makes it a hard nut to crack.
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PO1 William "Chip" Nagel
SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth "Martin Luther King Jr., in paraphrasing the abolitionist Theodore Parker, said “the arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice.” Maybe so, but not without deliberate force. Newton’s first law of motion, the law of inertia, states things in motion stay in motion unless acted on by a greater force. King himself was that force in bending our nation away from Jim Crow and toward civil rights".
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Reading this article you would think there are no whites living in the same urban areas that also lacked the opportunity and access. These are socioeconomic issues not racial issues.
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SPC Robert Conway
No, I don't think you are a racist because you are white, I think you are racist because you want white people to have the same thing as minorities, thus elevating whites above those minorities because the programs you are railing against them having were meant to raise them up to equal footing.
I think you are a racist because only a racist would want to claim that racism doesn't exist, so they don't have to look in the mirror and see how bad they are.
I can't begin to help you if you don't think Trump is a racist. But again you idiots have invested so much into supporting and justifying that asshat that it's really not surprising anymore
I think you are a racist because only a racist would want to claim that racism doesn't exist, so they don't have to look in the mirror and see how bad they are.
I can't begin to help you if you don't think Trump is a racist. But again you idiots have invested so much into supporting and justifying that asshat that it's really not surprising anymore
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TSgt Jack Oberholtzer
SPC Robert Conway I think you are racist because you want white people to have the same things as minorities? Ok, not only are you an asshole, you are an idiot. Everyone having the same opportunities is called equality. You also claim I want to do away with any programs for minorities when I stated those programs are in place to insure equal access and opportunity. Last you claim Trump is racist and say I have invested “so much” into supporting him. I voted for him and told people to take a damn breath and look at both sides before spouting off has been the sum of my support. Good luck to you, I have a feeling you may need it.
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SPC Robert Conway
TSgt Jack Oberholtzer I chose my words very carefully. What you are taking about is not equality. You want whites to have special organizations and programs to support them. The organizations and programs that support minorities do so to combat the real inequalities that exist, to give them a fair chance to succeed. Whites already have that chance, minorities don't.
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