Trump’s golf outings have long concerned Secret Service

Except their opponents

SP5 Dennis Loberger - Please allow me to clarify. Nobody had much to say about Presidents Clinton and Obama's golf outings being a secret service security concern.

But president Obama did play golf 333 times in 8 years.

Obama golfed only on military bases, specifically Andrews, where it was far more secured than Trump's private courses. Also he played 306 times in 8 years.

I'd assume Clinton mostly golfed on military bases too. I can't find much. He did participate in a PGA with Bush Sr and Ford in 95. I'm sure that was planned out for security.

"Obama played 333 rounds during his eight years as president, according to Knoller"
Source: CNN [See link below]

11 of the top 12 most frequently visited by President Obama were private courses
1 Andrews Air Force base
2 Farm Neck Golf Club, Martha’s Vineyard, Massachusetts
3 Ko’olau Golf Club, Oahu, Hawaii
4 Mid-Pacific Country Club, Oahu, Hawaii
5 Torrey Pines Golf Course, San Diego
6 Shadow Creek Golf Course, Las Vegas, Nevada, California
7 The Floridian, Palm City, Florida
8 Belle Haven Country Club, Alexandria, Virginia
9 Congressional Country Club, Bethesda, Maryland (Don't be fooled by the name, it's a private club
10 Martha’s Vineyard Golf Club, Martha’s Vineyard, Massachusetts
11 Wai’alae Country Club, Honolulu, Hawaii
12 TPC Potomac at Avenel Farm, Potomac, Maryland

https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/25/politics/fact-check-trump-obama-golf/index.html

You are confused. I don't understand how you think any of this. It's as if you live on another planet, in an alternate universe. OP SEC is when you keep your mouth shut about methods and protocols regarding the security of a protected person. Stars & Stripes spilled a lot of beans in the article. I am not pointing them out because OP SEC. You want to remember, then re-read the article. Way too much information. Test? Pretend they were supposed to be protecting your wife or kids. Now, with that same hypothetical, re-read your response. Get me?

MAJ Montgomery Granger - Dude I was in S2 half my career. I know what OPSEC is. There was no OPSEC in that article.

That's also NOT what OPSEC is:

"Operations Security (OPSEC) is a process and strategy that protects sensitive information from adversaries. It involves identifying critical information, analyzing threats, and developing countermeasures to safeguard that information.
OPSEC is used to protect sensitive information in corporate systems and operations. It can help identify actions that could inadvertently reveal sensitive data to cyber criminals.
OPSEC involves looking at systems and operations from the perspective of a potential attacker. This can help identify issues that might be overlooked and implement countermeasures to keep data secure.
Some examples of OPSEC mistakes include: Oversharing personal information online, Leaving unused social media profiles online, and Accidentally interacting with a target on social media"

"OPSEC stands for Operational Security and is a term derived from the United States Military. Since its introduction, OPSEC has been adopted by many organizations and sectors to safeguard sensitive information in various contexts beyond the military. The objective of OPSEC is to prevent sensitive information from getting into the hands of an adversary, primarily by denying access to the data. First, we want to identify the data that can be compromised and then take steps to reduce the exploitation of this data and minimize the risk."

OPSEC is an analytical process that entails assessing potential threats, vulnerabilities, and risks to sensitive information.

The five-step OPSEC process:
Identify sensitive data - understand what your sensitive information might be.
Threat Assessment - identify potential cybersecurity threats, i.e., think of what adversaries could exploit about you.
Vulnerability analysis - identify where you are vulnerable and/or weaknesses in security.
Risk assessment - measure the level of risk to do with each previously identified vulnerability.
Apply countermeasures - develop countermeasures to minimize the identified risks.

Trump's activity on his PUBLIC golf courses is not sensitive in anyway. Even if it's a "private" golf course, it's still public when it's right by a public street. This is why Obama golfed at military bases. Lots more security.

Again the article posted even said that news sources can take pictures of him FROM THE STREET outside the course. That's not very secure...

Don't come at me talking about security when I was a security manager for about half my career and I just spent 2 years doing it for a division and was 2 years in the SSO.

This is probably the dumbest thing I've read on here in a while.

SFC Kelly Fuerhoff - OPSEC breaches also includes publicizing vulnerabilities
_"risks posed by golfing at his own courses because of their proximity to public roads."
_"if photographers with long-range lenses could get the president in their sights while he golfed, so too could potential gunmen"
_"And then he follows a highly predictable routine on any given weekend."
_"The courses are located in heavily trafficked communities. And while they’re surrounded by some fencing, the greens lack hardened perimeters.
_If he was, we would have had the entire golf course surrounded. But because he’s not, security is limited to the areas that the Secret Service deems possible.”
_Current and former agents said a counter-sniper team typically travels one hole ahead of Trump to scope out potential risks. Another counter-sniper team travels a hole behind to make sure there is no danger lurking in his wake as he moves forward on the fairway, protecting what’s called the “6 o’clock position.”
_A counter-sniper agent, a counter-assault agent and some of the members of his regular detail travel alongside Trump, who typically drives his own golf cart.
_Agents kept a wider perimeter around him when he was president, establishing checkpoints at his clubs and trying to limit foot traffic around him...Some of those practices have fallen by the wayside in recent years
_People who have played at Trump’s club in West Palm Beach said they were surprised they weren’t screened more extensively or kept away from the former president. One person who played last year said he wasn’t asked any questions or subject to a bag search. After he finished his round, this person said, he walked into the clubhouse and took a corner table near where Trump later came to dine.

Just because you were in S2, doesn't mean you were good at it. Every one of the above items is useful information to someone who wants to do President Trump harm.

MAJ Montgomery Granger