Posted on Sep 8, 2016
USMC: Recruit’s death a suicide; 20 training personnel face possible action in 3 investigations
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Why does it take a death for people to wake the hell up? This Marine didn't deserve to die to to maltreatment by those he trusted. I understand being "hard", but this level of it only makes civilians look harder at us and what we do, and when they make changes usually we definitely don't like them.
USMC: Recruit’s death a suicide; 20 training personnel face possible action in 3 investigations
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That's so sad to see a person who wanted to be a part of something so large, so incredible that others wouldn't let him have the chance. I don't know what his mental state was when he first laid his foot on Paris Isl. but it doesn't help that these DI's just let this carry on. Yeah, it's suppose to be difficult in boot camp; that I understand. What I don't understand is that some DI's want to believe that this is Full Metal Jacket. Not that I'm trying to be soft but I'll use my favorite two words: Common Sense. Yes, you are to discipline your recruits when they do some inappropriate or not within the orders of the DI, yet the DIs must instill core values of a Marine/Sailor/Soldier/Airman.
This was not helping to stop 22 suicides a day from our Vets/SMs. This can only make things worse for those who knew this Marine, his family and friends alike.
Thoughts go out to the family.
This was not helping to stop 22 suicides a day from our Vets/SMs. This can only make things worse for those who knew this Marine, his family and friends alike.
Thoughts go out to the family.
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SSG Warren Swan - If I just saw the graphic and not the comment below....I would be like "Whut?!" Lol....but I got you SSG!
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Its a sad story to read SSG Warren Swan, thanks for sharing. This should not have happened. I think the Marines push their recruits too hard and while many can handle it, others can not. Not sure of this was the case or not but Mr. Siddiqui looked so proud in front of the podium and then you see his flag draped casket and ask why.
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SSG Warren Swan
SFC, I'd expect you to beat me down, to bring me back up in the mold of a Soldier. In this case, it seems he was singled out, and they mentioned racial attacks in the article. No one should have to deal with that anytime, and IF this proves true, no one "retires" they "retire" to Leavenworth.
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The article was kinda barren of facts concerning the death of the recruit that was named. I'd be interested to hear more details about the specifics of this case. Things can get out of control at recruit training. In my platoon at PISC in 1988, 2 of my drill instructors (my SDI and his heavy) were both relieved of duty after 2 weeks because of abuse of a recruit. The other 2 that weren't involved were reassigned. We got a whole new team in our 3rd week, so I can see this happening. I'd also be interested to hear more about this "hat hazing". Is that even a thing? You'd think a Marine on the drill field could defend himself from stuff like that. FTR, every former Drill Instructor that I encountered, with one exception, were absolute cream of the crop. I can't imagine any of them having been subject to abuse at the hands of a peer.
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SSG Warren Swan
" A redacted investigative report did not mention Siddiqui by name but appeared to describe his death. It says that on March 18, the day Siddiqui died, an unnamed recruit wrote a note to his drill instructor asking to go to the infirmary for a sore throat. Because he didn't follow proper procedure, the recruit was forced to run back and forth in his barracks, the report said.
After several runs, the recruit began to cry and fell to the floor clutching his throat, apparently unresponsive, the report said. He was ordered to get up and was slapped in the face, it said. After he was slapped, the recruit ran out a door and vaulted over a railing on the third floor of the barracks, the report said.
The investigation also revealed "recurrent physical and verbal abuse of recruits by drill instructors," with a lack of oversight by officers. Even new drill instructors were subjected to abuse by more senior drill instructors, a practice known as "hat hazing" because of the iconic flat-brimmed hats worn by the instructors.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/marines-uncover-wide-abuse-hazing-recruits-suicide-41968861
After several runs, the recruit began to cry and fell to the floor clutching his throat, apparently unresponsive, the report said. He was ordered to get up and was slapped in the face, it said. After he was slapped, the recruit ran out a door and vaulted over a railing on the third floor of the barracks, the report said.
The investigation also revealed "recurrent physical and verbal abuse of recruits by drill instructors," with a lack of oversight by officers. Even new drill instructors were subjected to abuse by more senior drill instructors, a practice known as "hat hazing" because of the iconic flat-brimmed hats worn by the instructors.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/marines-uncover-wide-abuse-hazing-recruits-suicide-41968861
Marines Uncover Wide Abuse, Hazing After Recruit's Suicide
The Marine Corps is considering possible punishments and potential courts-martial for up to 20 officers and enlisted leaders in the wake of investigations into the suicide of a 20-year-old recruit at its Parris Island training facility in South Carolina. The results of three investigations...
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CW3 Matt Hutchason
SSG Warren Swan - Thanks for pointing that out. Not sure how I completely missed that part.
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SSG Warren Swan
CW3 Matt Hutchason - No worries Sir, we cover down for each other. You'll get me sooner than later, so look out for me when I need it. How in the hell am I talking to CW3? You're invisible
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CW3 Matt Hutchason
SSG Warren Swan - You aren't actually talking to me. I am in your imagination. Me and those like me never existed. Lol.
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