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Good Morning RallyPoint on this October 5, 2020. Here is your history for the Vietnam War on this day 4 October. Welcome home all Veterans and those that gave their all may you all rest in peace...!
Today, 5 October in Vietnam war History
5 October 1959 - Maya Lin, American architect who designed the Vietnam Memorial in Washington, D.C., was born.
5 October 1963 - Three days after Kennedy orders Lodge not to pursue the encouragement of a coup that they though had been canceled, Lodge reports to Kennedy that the coup is on. General Minh, meeting with CIA officer Lucien Conein, asks for assurances that the US will not act to thwart a coup and that economic and military aid will continue. Kennedy approves, cautioning that the United States should avoid getting involved with operational details. Conein keeps in touch with rebel activity through meetings with General Tran Van Don. in the wake of another Buddhist monk’s self-immolation, intensified political repression including the arrest of scores of children and the reaction to it, US officials from Kennedy on down attempt to control US newsmen in Saigon without success. Lodge’s dismissal of Saigon CIA chief John Richardson, who has doubts about the coup, encourages the dissident generals.
5 October 1965 U.S. forces in Saigon, South Vietnam, received permission to use tear gas.
5 October 1969 – 4 December 1969, Operation Saturate, 101st Airborne Division and ARVN 54th Regiment clear and search operation, Thừa Thiên Province
Today is Saturday, October 5, 2020
Vietnam War memorial facts
149 Names on the wall were born on 5 October
140 Names on the wall died on 5 October
245 men earned the Medal Of Honor in the Vietnam war and 154 of those men are listed on the wall
Today, 5 October in Vietnam war
Other facts of interest:
Vietnam Veterans are less likely to be in prison – only 1/2 of one percent of Vietnam Veterans have been jailed for crimes. (Westmoreland papers)
Isolated atrocities committed by American soldiers produced torrents of outrage from antiwar critics and the news media while Communist atrocities were so common that they received hardly any attention at all. The United States sought to minimize and prevent attacks on civilians while North Vietnam made attacks on civilians a centerpiece of its strategy. Americans who deliberately killed civilians received prison sentences while Communists who did so received commendations. From 1957 to 1973, the National Liberation Front assassinated 36,725 South Vietnamese and abducted another 58,499. The death squads focused on leaders at the village level and on anyone who improved the lives of the peasants such as medical personnel, social workers, and schoolteachers. (Nixon Library)
Vietnam veterans’ personal income exceeds that of our non-veteran age group by more than 18 percent. (McCaffrey Papers)
Vietnam veterans have a lower unemployment rate than our non-vet age group. (McCaffrey Papers)
There were about 11,835 U.S helicopters that served in the Vietnam War. The U.S records showing 5,607 helicopter losses
Twenty-one aircraft carriers conducted 86 war cruises and operated 9,178 total days on the line in the Gulf of Tonkin. 532 aircraft were lost in combat and 329 more to operational causes, resulting in the deaths of 401 naval aviators, with 64 airmen reported missing and 179 taken prisoner of war.
All told, the U.S. Air Force flew 5.25 million sorties over South Vietnam, North Vietnam, northern and southern Laos, and Cambodia, losing 2,251 aircraft: 1,737 to hostile action, and 514 in accidents. 2,197 of the losses were fixed-wing, and the remainder rotary-wing. The USAF sustained approximately 0.4 losses per 1,000 sorties during the conflict, which compared favorably with a 2.0 rate in Korea and a 9.7 figure during World War II
U.S. Marine Corps aircraft lost in combat included 193 fixed-wing and 270 rotary-wing aircraft.
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Today's share hits on a huge problem that existed in South Viet Nam. The division between the Catholics and Buddhist. Catholics tended to secure all positions of importance within the government. People divided will fall. This share also highlights something of which I was intimately familiar -- communist atrocities. When the Commies attacked a camp like mine, after overrunning the camp they would murder all the civilians. One of my most painful memories of the last time I got wounded was working the perimeter in an effort to drive off the Commies. As I would secure an area, I would find frightened women and children hiding in holes and alcoves. They didn't know if it was going to be me there to save them, or a Commie there to murder them. I sent them to the inner compound to be protected by my three teammates -- and sent the Commies someplace else. We lost four civilians that night. Our interpreter, who I made go out with me because I didn't trust my Vietnamese language skills when innocent lives were on the line. The first round to hit me went through him first. A Khmer that ran back to save me. He kept trying to patch my leaks at the same time I continued prosecuting the war. He gave his life to save mine. A five or six year old child that came running pack towards me, rather than heading to the inner compound. Some "brave" Commie murdered him, so I had to set things right. And we lost one woman under circumstances unknown to me. One of the many nice things about RP is that it allowed me to finally speak of that child after 50 years. A year ago I wouldn't even mention it to VA. But you fine folks help me work through it. It's too bad certain folks are too stupid to comprehend that.
SPC Nancy Greene SPC Randy Zimmerman PO1 H Gene Lawrence SGT Gregory Lawritson Lt Col Charlie Brown CWO3 Dennis M. MSG Tom Earley SP5 Jim Curry SGT (Join to see) PO3 Phyllis Maynard COL Mikel J. Burroughs SSG (Join to see) MSG (Join to see) SFC James J. Palmer IV aka "JP4" SGT John Melvin MSG Felipe De Leon Brown SGT Robert Foti GySgt Thomas Vick Sgt (Join to see)
SPC Nancy Greene SPC Randy Zimmerman PO1 H Gene Lawrence SGT Gregory Lawritson Lt Col Charlie Brown CWO3 Dennis M. MSG Tom Earley SP5 Jim Curry SGT (Join to see) PO3 Phyllis Maynard COL Mikel J. Burroughs SSG (Join to see) MSG (Join to see) SFC James J. Palmer IV aka "JP4" SGT John Melvin MSG Felipe De Leon Brown SGT Robert Foti GySgt Thomas Vick Sgt (Join to see)
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SPC Nancy Greene
SGT Robert Pryor I only came to that realization after I enlisted in the Army.SGT Robert Pryor
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SGT Robert Pryor
SP5 Jim Curry - Oh gees, I can't respond to that one without the Jell-O sheriff coming after both of us, and maybe even CWO3 Dennis M., for getting the conversation started.
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MSG Felipe De Leon Brown
SGT Robert Pryor - You mean the same type of milk that I drink: Lactaid® with zero fat. I could handle whole milk until the malaria prophylactics that we had to take in Viet Nam. One of the reasons I was so skinny the whole time I was there. LOL
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MSG Felipe De Leon Brown
Lt Col John (Jack) Christensen - Robert's taste buds are gone. LOL Nothing slimy about fresh Lactaid® (IMHO). SGT Robert Pryor
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SGT Robert Pryor
It is delightful, Lt Col John (Jack) Christensen. It just takes a couple of decades to get used to it, MSG Felipe De Leon Brown.
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Good morning CWO3 Dennis M. , truly a great history share again this morning, have a great Monday Chief.
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