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SSG Robert Webster
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I do know and have made it an extreme hobby to know. This article and its title are click bait and feel good propaganda. The article IS NOT the rest of the story about berets and our Army.
Part of this and the controversy surrounding it is being caused by the 'Stolen Valor' BS getting out of hand and caused by soldiers that should be keeping their mouths shut.

What is interesting is that the article would have been better served if they had quoted this instead of the statement that it makes:
"In the 1970s, Army policy allowed local commanders to encourage morale-enhancing uniform distinctions, and the use of berets boomed. Armor personnel at Fort Knox, Ky., wore the traditional British black beret, while U.S. armored cavalry regiments in Germany wore the black beret with a red and white oval.

Troops of the 82nd Airborne Division at Fort Bragg, N.C., started wearing the maroon beret in 1973, while at Fort Campbell, Ky., the trend exploded, with post personnel wearing red, military police donning light green, and the 101st Airborne Division taking light blue as their color. In Alaska, the 172nd Infantry Brigade began using an olive green beret.

In 1975, the Airborne Rangers got approval from the Army Chief of Staff to use the black beret as their official headgear.

Over the next few years, the whole thing got out of hand, and in 1979 senior Army officials put on the brakes, Bradford said. The leadership allowed the Rangers to keep their black berets and in 1980, agreed to allow airborne troops to continue wearing the maroon version. But all others varieties were declared off-limits."

In the one picture, the coloring does not do justice to the actual color of the beret, which happens to be OD Green for those of you that do not know (think old Army OD Green wool blankets). The soldier pictured was assigned to the 1st Battalion 60th Infantry 172d Infantry Brigade. Anyway, at the time you would not mistake these soldiers as being SF.

And for those of you that do not know; LTG Yarborough is either directly or indirectly responsible for a significant number of uniform and heraldic items worn today by Airborne, Ranger, and SF soldiers.
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SSG Rick Howe
SSG Rick Howe
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History as always can teach us , if you willing to listen ?
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SMSgt Thor Merich
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To throw something else in the mix, the Air Force has been wearing berets since the 1970's. Berets are authorized for what the Air Force considers "combat" AFSC's (MOS).

Black - Tactical Air Control Party (TACP) and Air Liaison Officers (ALO).
Maroon - Combat Rescue Officers and Pararescue (PJs)
Red (scarlet) - Combat Controllers & Special Tactics Officers
Dark Blue - Security Forces
Grey - Special Operations Weather Technician
Green - Survival, Evasion, Resistance and Escape (SERE) Specialists

I believe that at one, US Navy riverine forces also wore berets.

I have never seen a Marine in a beret. Maybe one day they too will jump on the beret band wagon.
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2ndLt Fulton Recepcion
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SSG Robert Webster - I was quoting CMSGT Merich. That was not my quote.
As I said, there were a few U.S. Marines who wore berets during the Vietnam conflict as advisers, but not as unofficial headgear.
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2ndLt Fulton Recepcion
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SSG Robert Webster -
>Do you not have a subscription or access to Leatherneck magazine, a publication of the Marine Corps Association? I am positive that they have published pictures of Royal Marines (United Kingdom) on a semi-regular basis.

As much as I love my Marine Corps, I don't subscribe or collect publications anymore (official or non-official like Leatherneck). The USMC was a big part of my life, but as any military career, it's not the end-all-be-all in your life.

>Do you not know about the embed and exchange programs? How many Royal Marines (UK) are embedded with USMC units as Platoon Leaders and in other leadership positions?

Blah. They were PT instructors at OCS.
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SMSgt Thor Merich
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I stand corrected. There are many Marines that wear berets. I have never seen a beret wearing member of the USMC.
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GySgt Joe Tajc
GySgt Joe Tajc
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The US Marine Corps looked at berets and even field tested them in the late 70’s, right after adopting jungle utilities. Fortunately, we stayed with the same cover (hat) design worn since the early 40’s and, with slight design and color changes, still worn today.
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CW5 Jack Cardwell
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Me (caught yawning) wearing black beret 1976 or so.
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CW5 Jack Cardwell
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513 Maint Co 3rd ACR
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SSG Robert Webster
SSG Robert Webster
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CW5 Jack Cardwell - Thanks. Do you still have one? Do you know anything about the history of 'that' pocket patch?
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SSG Robert Webster
SSG Robert Webster
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CW5 Jack Cardwell - Is this it?
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CW5 Jack Cardwell
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WOW that's it. If I remember correctly 181 was missile det and 171 was GS maintenance. Thanks !
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