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This is the second time I’ve gotten reprimanded for this situation. I was walking with a binder in my hands, and a mug in the other hand. I walked past a CSM and a CPT, greeted both as I was unable to salute. CSM stopped me and demanded that I drop everything to salute the CPT. AR 600-25 states that I am not required to render a salute if I am carrying articles with both hands. What is the right answer?
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LTC Hardware Test Engineer
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hand whatever you are holding in your right hand to the CSM and salute......
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I'll just say the CSM was wrong and so was the Soldier, should have just switched the mug to the binder hand and saluted and then everything would have need fine. No need for the CSM to stop a jr. enlisted and make a correction on the spot, he should have asked the Officer to give him a second and pulled the Jr. enlisted aside and done the arse shewing in a little toned down way. Then after making sure the other enlisted soldier knows they screwed up, he should have continued on his way with the Officer. Then told said Officer he took care of the problem.
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CPT Daniel Cox
CPT Daniel Cox
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Having shattered my right elbow twice while in the Army, causing me to have six (and counting) operations on my right arm (the third two weeks before my medical discharge), I spent a lot of time in a brace or cast that precluded my rendering a correct salute to a higher rank or returning the salute to a lower rank. I would normally salute left-handed unless I was carrying something. In that case, I did a modified head bob and a tilted arm raise. The CSM probably felt you could have transferred the cup and rendered the salute without spilling or dropping it.
Have you ever seen someone walking with things in both hands (empty cups, soda bottles, or other things that could be carried in one hand) to follow the letter, if not the intent, of the regulation?
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PFC Kimberly Staiti
PFC Kimberly Staiti
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CPT William Jones I don't know if you know just how big a "binder" can be!
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CPT William Jones
CPT William Jones
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PFC Kimberly Staiti - you are right I dont know but ill bet it weighed less than 5 pounds if larger it would need to be divided and have two volumes.
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SFC Observer   Controller/Trainer (Oc/T)
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Stop carrying stuff in your right hand. Was I the only one taught that the right hand was unofficially forbidden from carrying stuff? =o)
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SGT Jd Cannon
SGT Jd Cannon
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combat ready keeps the right hand free too.... IJS....
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CDR Tom Davy
CDR Tom Davy
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Yes, whenever possible and to this day, I only carry things in my left hand
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1SG Charles Hunter
1SG Charles Hunter
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LTC (Join to see) - If that CSM had time to dress you down for a minor uniform infraction, it seems he could have made time to offer some assistance in your difficult situation.
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1SG James Kelly
1SG James Kelly
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CWO5 Jeffrey Backus - It's my gun hand.
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Lt Col Charlie Brown
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The right answer is not to put yourself in those situations if possible. Seriously.
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SPC Michael Terrell
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Lt Col Charlie Brown - It was mission critical Military gear. Without it in the control tower, the flight school had to be shut down.
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LTC. Brown, I disagree with your assessment on this subject. Sometimes our duties don't dictate how or why we do the things were doing in the Military. And to try and perform our duties just to try and make sure some Officer and or Higher ranking NCO doesn't chew our arse over what were doing atm. Is bad advice, advice like that could want to make good soldier's not to want to stay in the Military over the lame subject at hand. All the details are not given as to why or who gave the first reprimand. Seems like the first Person who gave the Reprimand clearly didn't know or understand the D & C regulation entirely and could have been wrong. Was the binder the Sgt. was carrying a big heavy binder that Supply Sgt.s use in Supply, No clear evidence at all, and most people on this board answering to this Post are just guessing at what they presume was the situation.
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1SG James Kelly
1SG James Kelly
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MSgt Dale Johnson - Girls, what can you do?
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It's a joke people.
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SPC Robin Price-Dirks
SPC Robin Price-Dirks
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Okay, How about a military vehicle that approached me from behind and the flags weren't visible from my position. I was looking down and was walking down a steep hill with a broken sidewalk. I got chewed on for a half hour for not saluting when they came from behind me.
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