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Posted on Nov 19, 2018
Attacks on McCain, the Kahn family, & SEAL Ret Adm Wm McRaven, architect of Bin Laden raid. How much longer will US military support Trump?
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His stupidity, arrogance, and lies astound me. He said he had no deep ties to the Russians and Chinese. Trump corporation is mutually developing Indonesian real estate with a Chinese firm. Indonesia is now committing genocide against West Papua New Guineans. He claimed to know more than some folks in the military about war. He said recently that soy bean prices are at its highest ever. Actually it is half the highest price. He told the California Governor he was going to cut funding for the fires and said Finland does not have forest fires because they "rake and do stuff". Trump said we will shoot rock throwers at the border. I will not mention what has already been said in the thread. The Trump foundation has the highest risk rating for improprieties according the Charity Navigator.
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Sgt Jerry Genesio: You forgot to mention that his personal Viet Nam was avoiding STDs; he has declared he didn't like McCain because he was captured, thus those who are captured are losers (that include all POWs then); he LOVED the Purple Heart that a veteran gave him at some rally and he always wanted to have one because they are so beautiful (didn't know you could get one for avoiding STDs, have multiple deferments and bone spurs to avoid service, but whatever floats your carburetor); he told a group of veterans in a meeting that they were strong, unlike those who are committing suicide from PTSD because those people are really weak; he wants the VA budget by 10% or more....and I haven't even finished this list.
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Maj John Bell
Sgt Jerry Genesio - I did not see the story, or hear about it. I've got important stuff to do. Don't really care. And your meme makes no mention of it. Whoever made it needs to make a meme that impugns President Trump's integrity, not a meme that marginalizes good forest management.
The plain and simple truth is the environmentalist are idiots when it comes to forest management. Clearing the undergrowth preserves lives, protects property, and promotes better air quality. I have almost 8 acres of woods on my property. I practice good forest management. I cull trees for lumber and veneer logs. I remove dead fall and undergrowth. But it doesn't mean much because I'm attached to miles and miles of private, state and county land that isn't managed that will take down my hardwoods when, (not if) a wildfire comes and the wind is against me.
As a volunteer firefighter, I spend too much time fighting fires because people don't manage the forest on their property and because the tree huggers fight every effort to manage the forest on public lands.
I didn't vote for President Trump in 2016, and I won't vote for him in 2020. The Democrats could have had my vote if they hadn't selected a more repugnant candidate. But it appears that 2020 will be a race to the bottom again. None the less, I call BS when I see BS. People need to stick to criticizing the real stuff (there isn't a shortage) instead getting swept up in who hates President Trump more.
The plain and simple truth is the environmentalist are idiots when it comes to forest management. Clearing the undergrowth preserves lives, protects property, and promotes better air quality. I have almost 8 acres of woods on my property. I practice good forest management. I cull trees for lumber and veneer logs. I remove dead fall and undergrowth. But it doesn't mean much because I'm attached to miles and miles of private, state and county land that isn't managed that will take down my hardwoods when, (not if) a wildfire comes and the wind is against me.
As a volunteer firefighter, I spend too much time fighting fires because people don't manage the forest on their property and because the tree huggers fight every effort to manage the forest on public lands.
I didn't vote for President Trump in 2016, and I won't vote for him in 2020. The Democrats could have had my vote if they hadn't selected a more repugnant candidate. But it appears that 2020 will be a race to the bottom again. None the less, I call BS when I see BS. People need to stick to criticizing the real stuff (there isn't a shortage) instead getting swept up in who hates President Trump more.
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Sgt Jerry Genesio
Maj John Bell - I appreciate your advice and opinions regarding forest management, but this post is about Trump and his support in the military community. The memes are about Trump and the lies that he imposes upon the American people and indeed the world each and every day. I don't believe there is anyone seeking guidance relative to forest management on the RP web site which cannot even be accessed by the general public. I believe you recognized and seized an opportunity to lecture on a subject you care very much about and while I do sincerely appreciate your apparently broad knowledge on this your favorite topic, I believe there are other forums where your voice would be heard by a more appropriate and much larger audience.
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Maj John Bell
Sgt Jerry Genesio - As soon as you posted a fallacious meme, that didn't mention President Trump, linked it to President Trump, and marginalized good forest management, I assume to ridicule President trump; you opened the door.
There is no shortage of civilians on RP, so what makes you think the general public cannot access the forum.
There is no shortage of civilians on RP, so what makes you think the general public cannot access the forum.
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Sgt Jerry Genesio
Nothing was posted intending to marginalize good forest management, and when Trump is ridiculed he's not getting any more than he gives. I know there are some 650K+/- on RP and many are civilians who are veterans. I was under the impression RP was exclusively for active duty military and veterans but I could be wrong. It's not that important to me, but I'm pretty confident you won't find many people looking for good forest management techniques on RP regardless of how much you might wish it to be otherwise.
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McCain is/was in the political arena and he had no love lost for Trump. He has to be prepared to get it as good as he gave it. If you cant take the heat, stay out of the kitchen.
The Kahn's were used at the democrat national convention to attack Trump. They put themselves out there and his comment about them were pretty tame. They threw themselves in the breach when they decided to get on a national platform and go after him over his proposed "muslim ban". They waved the constitution in his face and his ban was upheld by the supreme court. Oops, forgot about that part didn't you.
Here is what McCraven had to say about Trump:
“Like most Americans, I had hoped that when you became president, you would rise to the occasion and become the leader this great nation needs, A good leader tries to embody the best qualities of his or her organization. A good leader sets the example for others to follow. A good leader always puts the welfare of others before himself or herself.”
“Your leadership, however, has shown little of these qualities, Through your actions, you have embarrassed us in the eyes of our children, humiliated us on the world stage and, worst of all, divided us as a nation.”
This is what earned him some of the direct remarks from a sitting President. McCraven should know better than jumping into the political fray. He is free to do so but that may earn him a rebuke. Whether Mccraven likes it or not, Trump had about 60 million Americans vote for him, McCraven has had zero vote for him.
The US military will support the sitting, duly elected president as long as he is in office. Are you suggesting they do something else? A coup of some sort? Since you could not win at the ballot box, armed force is your remedy is it?
The Kahn's were used at the democrat national convention to attack Trump. They put themselves out there and his comment about them were pretty tame. They threw themselves in the breach when they decided to get on a national platform and go after him over his proposed "muslim ban". They waved the constitution in his face and his ban was upheld by the supreme court. Oops, forgot about that part didn't you.
Here is what McCraven had to say about Trump:
“Like most Americans, I had hoped that when you became president, you would rise to the occasion and become the leader this great nation needs, A good leader tries to embody the best qualities of his or her organization. A good leader sets the example for others to follow. A good leader always puts the welfare of others before himself or herself.”
“Your leadership, however, has shown little of these qualities, Through your actions, you have embarrassed us in the eyes of our children, humiliated us on the world stage and, worst of all, divided us as a nation.”
This is what earned him some of the direct remarks from a sitting President. McCraven should know better than jumping into the political fray. He is free to do so but that may earn him a rebuke. Whether Mccraven likes it or not, Trump had about 60 million Americans vote for him, McCraven has had zero vote for him.
The US military will support the sitting, duly elected president as long as he is in office. Are you suggesting they do something else? A coup of some sort? Since you could not win at the ballot box, armed force is your remedy is it?
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Cpl Jeff N.
SSgt Ray Stone - Right, Obama told us we were going to have to get used to 1% GDP. It was the new normal. He also asked if Trump had a magic wand he was going to create all of these jobs with. Obama is trying to take credit for what he said could not happen and Trump couldn't do and you have taken the bait, hook, line and sinker. Clearly you are not paying attention to the actual economic performance and are only listening to talking heads telling you what you want to hear.
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Cpl Jeff N.
Sgt Jerry Genesio - Jerry, you are a walking, breathing contradiction. You try to give Obama credit for things he said were not possible. Then, in the very same post blame Trump for some false impression you have Trump destroying jobs with NAFTA and China. The economy is in great shape and no credit is due to Obama. He had 8 years and could not get it done. You know it and I know it.
The caliphate was one of the largest stories of the election. Obama told us basically we would not be able to dismantle it. Mattis, with Trumps okay, has decimated it, period. Mattis is working for Trump because Trump is results oriented. He wants to get the job done and empowers people to do it. Perhaps Mattis has a better read than you do on Trump. Have you ever considered that possibility? My guess is no.
Iran was violating the agreement and was calling for the destruction if Israel, an actual ally in the region or let me guess, you are okay with the destruction of Israel too? Iran needs to be crushed not coddled.
Climate change has been happening since the dawn of time. We've had ice ages and warming periods long before man had any sort of presence on the globe. Have you ever thought about that at all or is the mantra of the left ringing in your ears so strongly you can hear nothing else.
I claimed by points could not be refuted and you still have not done so and you've had a couple of chances to do so. You just keep parroting MSNBC talking points and then want to claim I am somehow a FOX News robot. I know you like to think that but some of us are well read, you appear not to be. You raised the BS examples and I challenged you on them. You are simply wrong and are unwilling to countenance that reality.
The caliphate was one of the largest stories of the election. Obama told us basically we would not be able to dismantle it. Mattis, with Trumps okay, has decimated it, period. Mattis is working for Trump because Trump is results oriented. He wants to get the job done and empowers people to do it. Perhaps Mattis has a better read than you do on Trump. Have you ever considered that possibility? My guess is no.
Iran was violating the agreement and was calling for the destruction if Israel, an actual ally in the region or let me guess, you are okay with the destruction of Israel too? Iran needs to be crushed not coddled.
Climate change has been happening since the dawn of time. We've had ice ages and warming periods long before man had any sort of presence on the globe. Have you ever thought about that at all or is the mantra of the left ringing in your ears so strongly you can hear nothing else.
I claimed by points could not be refuted and you still have not done so and you've had a couple of chances to do so. You just keep parroting MSNBC talking points and then want to claim I am somehow a FOX News robot. I know you like to think that but some of us are well read, you appear not to be. You raised the BS examples and I challenged you on them. You are simply wrong and are unwilling to countenance that reality.
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Sgt Jerry Genesio
You've done nothing but ask me questions, ignore my responses, and then answer them yourself. You seem to be having a wonderfully self-gratifying conversation with yourself so I think I'll leave you alone in your fantasy world and go on to correspond with those who choose to consider both sides of their conversations with others.
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SSgt Ray Stone
Cpl Jeff N. - What economic performance? Are you referring to the stock market being down again and Trumps tax scam that benefits the rich. Again Pres Bone spurs is benefiting from Obama's clean up of Bush's recession. And I see you dismissed the fact that Bone Spurs admitted that he falsified AA job numbers
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