Posted on Dec 6, 2015
Ben Carson calls transgender military members a distraction. How do you feel about this?
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Personally, I don't care if a military member is transgender or not. It's none of mine or anyone else's business, unless. Why would it matter, as long as the job is getting done? I don't want to debate this. Remember I do not want to debate transgenders. I want to know how you feel about what Carson said. IMO, he's definitely not POTUS material now. Everyone has a constitutional right and a moral right to choose as they please, as long as it isn't against our Constitution or against the law.
And now for the rest of the story:
I decided I don't like the pic I had of Carson. I also,changed my first statement as it was causing controversy.
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“I mean, why do you have to go around flaunting your sexuality?" the presidential hopeful added.
CEDAR RAPIDS, Iowa -- Ben Carson told veterans at an event in Waterloo, Iowa, on Saturday that the military is not the place to deal with the “transgender thing.”
“I do not appreciate using our military as a laboratory for a social experiment,” Carson said at a town hall hosted by Concerned Veterans for America. “You know?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/ben-carson-transgender-military_566442cce4b08e945fefd34f?ir=Politics%253Fncid%253Dnewsltushpmg00000003
And now for the rest of the story:
I decided I don't like the pic I had of Carson. I also,changed my first statement as it was causing controversy.
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“I mean, why do you have to go around flaunting your sexuality?" the presidential hopeful added.
CEDAR RAPIDS, Iowa -- Ben Carson told veterans at an event in Waterloo, Iowa, on Saturday that the military is not the place to deal with the “transgender thing.”
“I do not appreciate using our military as a laboratory for a social experiment,” Carson said at a town hall hosted by Concerned Veterans for America. “You know?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/ben-carson-transgender-military_566442cce4b08e945fefd34f?ir=Politics%253Fncid%253Dnewsltushpmg00000003
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If you were to listen to the actual speech and not screenshots and memes, you get a completely different picture.
The basic message he implied is that our military is not the place for social experiments, and that ones sexual preference doesn't need to be publicized. In fact, he referenced bringing back don't ask don't tell (not the ban on homosexuality) which we all know was a Clinton policy, and go ahead and call me a bigot, I agree.
I don't care what you do in your personal life, or on your own time. Go ahead and bring your domestic partner to family events. But your sexual preferences (or mine) have no place in workplace discussion. PDA is against policy, and sorry but either go to unisex showers, billeting and bathrooms or if you've got junk in your pants, you use the men's bathroom.
The basic message he implied is that our military is not the place for social experiments, and that ones sexual preference doesn't need to be publicized. In fact, he referenced bringing back don't ask don't tell (not the ban on homosexuality) which we all know was a Clinton policy, and go ahead and call me a bigot, I agree.
I don't care what you do in your personal life, or on your own time. Go ahead and bring your domestic partner to family events. But your sexual preferences (or mine) have no place in workplace discussion. PDA is against policy, and sorry but either go to unisex showers, billeting and bathrooms or if you've got junk in your pants, you use the men's bathroom.
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The problem with that, is like I stated, not the ban on homosexuality. Yes, in its Clinton admin form, it went along with a ban on homosexuality making it impossible to bring a domestic partner to family events, get married, or the like. What Dr. Carson is condoning is nothing similar. What he is saying is that personal lives should stay personal and off duty.
Public displays of affection is not attending an event with your spouse, it is making out in the hallways, and the like... so I would like to set that straight first, and yes, if someone were to get overly affectionate with a wife at a military event, I would expect repercussions as well.
No one cares about a transgender "simply stating that he is transgender". And "publicizing" it is when they start demanding being able to wear the skirt in class A's or demand to sleep in the women's tent, or demand to use the women's bathroom. The concept of don't ask, don't tell is that neither party should be making sexual preferences the topic of discussion in the workplace. In other words, if Chelsea can't stop advertising the fact that s/he likes to dress like a woman, or Pornstache can't stop talking about anal sex they are both a distraction in the workplace, much the same, Joe can't go hound Pornstache with questions about his sexual fetishes.
It's about time the left realizes that you have to draw the line somewhere, and that like it or not, there comes a point where it crosses the line allowing one person to "express themselves" at the expense of everyone around them. It creates a hostile work environment for both parties, makes people uncomfortable doing their job, and creates a dangerously distracted unit... all things that don't belong in a military unit.
Public displays of affection is not attending an event with your spouse, it is making out in the hallways, and the like... so I would like to set that straight first, and yes, if someone were to get overly affectionate with a wife at a military event, I would expect repercussions as well.
No one cares about a transgender "simply stating that he is transgender". And "publicizing" it is when they start demanding being able to wear the skirt in class A's or demand to sleep in the women's tent, or demand to use the women's bathroom. The concept of don't ask, don't tell is that neither party should be making sexual preferences the topic of discussion in the workplace. In other words, if Chelsea can't stop advertising the fact that s/he likes to dress like a woman, or Pornstache can't stop talking about anal sex they are both a distraction in the workplace, much the same, Joe can't go hound Pornstache with questions about his sexual fetishes.
It's about time the left realizes that you have to draw the line somewhere, and that like it or not, there comes a point where it crosses the line allowing one person to "express themselves" at the expense of everyone around them. It creates a hostile work environment for both parties, makes people uncomfortable doing their job, and creates a dangerously distracted unit... all things that don't belong in a military unit.
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Sgt Kevin Curl
This is what the folks that doctored what Dr. Carson said want to gain dislike towards his policies and party affiliation . We know how Clinton feels on this issue but has since changed her tune to garner votes from LGBTV . I don't care what you do after work as long as it's legal just don't want to see it in a working environment . Need to return to DADT. Only reason this changed is because our President isn't what he appears , meaning he's a Closet Homosexual with a surrogate family . Sure he said what he had to to get elected but he's clearly gay as everyone in Chicago area already knows just not those on left but hey it will all come out come 2017 when he is no longer relevant . Same reason he hired a gay Sec. of the Army . Our military is no place for social experimentation !
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CPT L S - Jesus was happy with who he was and did not spend a fortune to change and he never then decided it was a botch job and then wished to die.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2440086/Belgian-transsexual-Nathan-Verhelst-44-elects-die-euthanasia-botched-sex-change-operation.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2440086/Belgian-transsexual-Nathan-Verhelst-44-elects-die-euthanasia-botched-sex-change-operation.html
Belgian elects to die by euthanasia after botched sex change
Nathan Verhelst, 44, died yesterday afternoon in Belgium after being allowed have his life ended on the grounds of 'unbearable psychological suffering'.
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Also, I find it funny how if you disagree with someone or something you get some moron saying your a bigot.
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Cpl Jeff N.
SGT (Join to see) . I did go there with you so not sure what to make of that comment. What can anyone do about it Keith? You say you are a Christian but do not know what to do regarding sin. You are commanded to preach the gospel to sinners and tell them to repent not embrace the sin. All have sinned and fallen short without a doubt but the key is that they turn away (repent) from the sin not live in it, wallow in it and ask others to accept it as not being sinful. Nowhere are you commanded to accept and tolerate sin. There is no "love the sinner, hate the sin" verse in the Bible many like to say exists. I am not suggesting anyone harm anyone only that you are the salt you profess to be.
As far as women (even though that was not the topic of this post), Christ commanded men to love their wives as Christ loved the church. That should be a pretty good mark to measure yourself against considering Christ died for his Church. There is much said about women in the Bible you seem to have missed. Yes, men, in a Christian home are supposed to lead the family. Women are not slaves in Christian relationships and for you to say that indicates you do not know or have not spend any time studying the topic.
And for CPT (Servicemember) the guy who will not use his real name or picture and then blocks people he wants to make nasty comments about (a real intellectual coward), save it captain. You use apart of the scripture to try to support your position but leave out the last part of it where Christ commands the woman to do what captain? He commands her to go and sin no more. You are not even a believer (by your own posts) and then try to use scripture as a battering ram. You look like an ignorant rube.
As far as women (even though that was not the topic of this post), Christ commanded men to love their wives as Christ loved the church. That should be a pretty good mark to measure yourself against considering Christ died for his Church. There is much said about women in the Bible you seem to have missed. Yes, men, in a Christian home are supposed to lead the family. Women are not slaves in Christian relationships and for you to say that indicates you do not know or have not spend any time studying the topic.
And for CPT (Servicemember) the guy who will not use his real name or picture and then blocks people he wants to make nasty comments about (a real intellectual coward), save it captain. You use apart of the scripture to try to support your position but leave out the last part of it where Christ commands the woman to do what captain? He commands her to go and sin no more. You are not even a believer (by your own posts) and then try to use scripture as a battering ram. You look like an ignorant rube.
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Jeff, I don't like being called an asshole. I'm sure you don't either. I do not need a lecture on believing in Christ. I am one of the nicest people you will ever meet. I do believe in Christ. I don't talk to anyone in RP about religion. I've tried twice, and the non believers and atheist cause a flame war. I can't begin to tell you how much God Has worked in our lives. We've had several really bad things happen and He has been right there with us. Had it not been for our church friends and our trust in God, I don't know what we would have done. Anyway, I won't bore you anymore with my situations. Let's call a truce and act like men and not kids. Thank you for your comment.
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Maj Rob Drury
SGT (Join to see) - "a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices..."
So, if my views are not obstinate, intolerant (whatever that means), or mere opinion, I'm not a bigot.
I'm so relieved!
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So, if my views are not obstinate, intolerant (whatever that means), or mere opinion, I'm not a bigot.
I'm so relieved!
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Maj Rob Drury
SFC Joseph Weber - I don't care what "religious types" (whatever that means) consider an abomination; but I care a great deal about what God calls one. The difference is religious belief and reality. They are an abomination. You may not like it or agree, but it remains true nonetheless.
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