Posted on Nov 6, 2016
SPC Eddie Espejo
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are you sure your comfortable with this?
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SGM Erik Marquez
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Edited 8 y ago
Yes huge problem..., however, thus far the chief law enforcement investigator has said there was no "intent "..and thus 18 U.S. Code § 2071 - Concealment, removal, or mutilation generally,
"(a) Whoever willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, or destroys, or attempts to do so, or, with intent to do so takes and carries away any record, proceeding, map, book, paper, document, or other thing, filed or deposited with any clerk or officer of any court of the United States, or in any public office, or with any judicial or public officer of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both."

Does not (YET) apply
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SPC Kevin Ford
SPC Kevin Ford
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SFC (Join to see) - I'm not so sure he would be able to show that she intended for that to end up on her server. Careless sure but that gets back to Comey's point. She did have a separate system for classified email. The real question becomes why did classified information get sent to the wrong system in the first place? That shouldn't have happened if it were her server or the government's, nothing classified should have gone to that address as the system behind it wasn't secured and authorized for classified information.
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SPC Kevin Ford
SPC Kevin Ford
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SPC Phil Norton - Prosecutor's have a wide range of latitude on if they bring anything to a grand jury. Do things not go to a grand jury that we think should have, probably all the time. As far as double standards between accountability of military personnel and government officials, welcome to the real world and being accountable to the UCMJ.

Having said that, I don't know the exact nature of where the classified information was found in the emails other than it was reported it was sent to her. The issue isn't so much that it went to a private server (that's more of a FOIA issue), the problem is that it went to a system not rated for classified information and then stayed there. Here's a few scenarios that I can think of that Comey may have decided to let the matter drop; if it was far enough down in a chain or replies it may be reasonable to think it is possible that she didn't know it was even there and didn't know it needed to be deleted. It may have been unread email or it may truly have been innocuously marked so that it may have been overlooked even by a reasonable person.

All of that would speak to a careless culture but it wouldn't result it her being criminally liable. They have to approve she knew it was there and then knowingly left it there to get intent and that's the sticky wicket. Without strict liability or intent it isn't a criminal matter, but instead a civil one.
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SPC Phil Norton
SPC Phil Norton
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and thats for a jury to decide correct? and I am familiar with the double standard of UCMJ and she should be held to a higher standard than that I relly dont care anymore if america wants her then I know what I'm dealing with and I know the direction the country is going no need to fight Russia or china well become the same thing the rule of law will only apply to those who fight the system and i'll be in jail lol
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SGM Erik Marquez
SGM Erik Marquez
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SFC (Join to see) - your confusing what you thing you know with what is the official statement.

I never said I agreed with the no intent position
I said that is the position of the senior investigator of the Federal Bureau of investigation.
Like it or not it doesn't matter what you were I think what you were I believe as it stands today the FBI had says there is no intent does that article of the code doesn't apply

However besides that there are other laws that many people think she broke that don't require intent simply the act and still it doesn't matter that senators and congressmen and you and I and many other people believe she broke a law none of us can charge her let alone try and convict

Until somebody with those authorities of powers decides to indict and then get a conviction it's a moot point
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SFC George Smith
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She is still there Because George Soros and The Progressives have forgiven her criminal activities... or forgotten them
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MSgt John McGowan
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SFC. She is still there because of political power and the Progressives will do what it takes to stay in power. Of course she is corrupt and a liar and I dread what he will do for or rather to this country. But people thinks she craps gold and both ends of her turds are clean.
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MSG Stan Hutchison
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Snopes does a good job of explain why this would not disqualify her.
http://www.snopes.com/hillary-clinton-disqualified/
Basically, it shows that no future law can change the exact specifications spelled out in Article II f our Constitution.
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