Posted on Sep 17, 2018
What are my options after being passed over for promotion twice?
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I have an urgent question re: Promotion Board to Major in the Army Reserve. I just found out I didn’t make my second look and just got the letter in the mail that I’m being forced out. I have fourteen good years in the Army (mostly active with some Reserve years and some enlisted years in the late 90s) and want to know what my options are to make it to 20? Anyone who can point me in the right direction I would appreciate it.
Some details:
-I spent most of my time on active duty in ‘00s-with one mobilized reserve 15 month period—got out in 2008 as a CPT, never did my CCC before I got out bc I thought I was done.
—Spent almost 9 years in IRR before deciding to come back in 2017.
—I never knew I was put up for Major Board (apparently) before so I submitted my packet for FY18 board that results just came out knowing I prob wouldn’t be selected because my CCC wasn’t done yet
—my CCC is now done, I was targeting FY 19 board in March to be picked up to MAJ
—I knew I was pushing my mandatory retirement date in Jul 2020 when I came back in to get promoted. I commissioned in 2000 so 2020 is when I hit 20 years commisioned and as a Captain and would have needed to retire. So I thought I was being smart and getting in under the radar to be promoted before I was forced out. I thought I managed my career right.
—this two time passed over and out really hit me out of nowhere—I do not know what to do, I want to do my 20 good years and retire.
Caveat to all of the above—I know it’s my responsibility to manage my own career and obviously I did not, but I am being perfectly honest when saying I just did not know I was put up for MAJ before—I feel like I totally flushed my career down the drain just when I thought I was getting back on track. I really enjoyed the past 18 months back in and now it might be over
Questions:
—is there any way to appeal to get a third look?
—is there any way for me stay in?
—is there anyway for me to reach 20 good years? Can I resign my commission and go enlisted to make it? (I’ve heard that somewhere)
—any advice would be really helpful and thanks for reading.
Kevin
Some details:
-I spent most of my time on active duty in ‘00s-with one mobilized reserve 15 month period—got out in 2008 as a CPT, never did my CCC before I got out bc I thought I was done.
—Spent almost 9 years in IRR before deciding to come back in 2017.
—I never knew I was put up for Major Board (apparently) before so I submitted my packet for FY18 board that results just came out knowing I prob wouldn’t be selected because my CCC wasn’t done yet
—my CCC is now done, I was targeting FY 19 board in March to be picked up to MAJ
—I knew I was pushing my mandatory retirement date in Jul 2020 when I came back in to get promoted. I commissioned in 2000 so 2020 is when I hit 20 years commisioned and as a Captain and would have needed to retire. So I thought I was being smart and getting in under the radar to be promoted before I was forced out. I thought I managed my career right.
—this two time passed over and out really hit me out of nowhere—I do not know what to do, I want to do my 20 good years and retire.
Caveat to all of the above—I know it’s my responsibility to manage my own career and obviously I did not, but I am being perfectly honest when saying I just did not know I was put up for MAJ before—I feel like I totally flushed my career down the drain just when I thought I was getting back on track. I really enjoyed the past 18 months back in and now it might be over
Questions:
—is there any way to appeal to get a third look?
—is there any way for me stay in?
—is there anyway for me to reach 20 good years? Can I resign my commission and go enlisted to make it? (I’ve heard that somewhere)
—any advice would be really helpful and thanks for reading.
Kevin
ARCC (Army Reserve Career Counselor)
Promotion Board
Army Reserve Elements
Posted >1 y ago
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I believe you can enlist as a SSG and retire as a CPT. You can still use your knowledge and experience.
CSM Charles Hayden SFC Joe S. Davis Jr., MSM, DSL MSG (Join to see) LTC Stephen C. LTC Stephen F. CPT Pedro Meza SSgt GG-15 RET Jim Lint LTC (Join to see) 1SG (P) Mark Rudolph LTC John Mohor SSG(P) James J. Palmer IV aka "JP4"
CSM Charles Hayden SFC Joe S. Davis Jr., MSM, DSL MSG (Join to see) LTC Stephen C. LTC Stephen F. CPT Pedro Meza SSgt GG-15 RET Jim Lint LTC (Join to see) 1SG (P) Mark Rudolph LTC John Mohor SSG(P) James J. Palmer IV aka "JP4"
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Capt (Join to see)
I had a regular commission and the law at that time was that I could not revert to an NOC grade. Even though I had been A Ssgt before being commissioned I would have had to come back as an E-3.
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I has 14 + years active duty Air Force After a 3 year break i went into the Army Reserves and served 8 1/2 years. That allowed me to be retired at age 60 and every day of my active duty counted towards calculating my retired pay. For me it was very worth it. I would at least check it out. Oh, and I retired at the highest grade held. Message me if you want to discuss it further.
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LTC (Join to see)
Yes, thank you for clarifying since I'm trying to explain it to an Airforce officer.
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LTC (Join to see)
CGSOC Command and General Staff Officer Course formerly Intermediate Level Education is what Majors take to make LTC.
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Capt Daniel Goodman
I know...when I was Army ROTC, my PMS was a CGSC grad, his research, he'd told !e was on wargaming using WW2 info, I did a Pepe for him on that whole topic, the only award I ever got in the program, the mil hist award....
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