Posted on Jan 26, 2015
COL Matt Finley
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Did your Service's transition adequately prepare you for civilian life whether education, vocational training or employment? If not, what was missing? What would you do differently?
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SGT Steven Eugene Kuhn MBA
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You must be referring to the 5 minute discussion with the career counselor who suggested I join the Reserves and then left for lunch, 2 days before ETS. After deep thought, I will need to say "no", zero preparation...but then again, the harder something is, the more rewarding accomplishment is, I never expected anything from the Army on the way out anyway so it was fine with me.
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SPC Steven Depuy
SPC Steven Depuy
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Transition program, was that the guy at Ft Dix after I flew back from Germany who asked me to donate all my fatigues that I paid for during my three years to the military, about all the transition I remember, here's your plane and train ticket home, don't let the door hit your ass on the way out. I guess I was the lucky one, pretty sure my kid had to pay his way home from Fort Hood two years ago. At least the Army took me back to the town they picked me up in.
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SGT Steven Eugene Kuhn MBA
SGT Steven Eugene Kuhn MBA
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I love your story's Steve!
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SGT Bryon Sergent
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Well being in the National Guard it's a little different. I have sat through the mind numbing power points that are supposed to be the military's cover all for the transitioning soldiers from active duty back to the civilian life. Well they are usually people that have great knowledge in the subject they are giving. You sit through a process that is keeping you from going home. You have been deployed for X amount of time away from your; wife, kids, girlfriend, ect., ect. I think that it should be done once you are back. Get away from the MOB site. We don't want to be there. Its usually a bunch of stuff that our spouses need to know also. Then you have the yellow ribbon events. They are usually put together very shabby. I have deployed 3 times. My first one we didn't have yellow ribbon. Second was in another state and was pretty good. This last one not so much. I think that the people that put these thing together and mandate these need to sneak in and not tell people they are coming and just SIT through one of these things.
Don't get me wrong the info is great. The vendors are there for us, but the info is to much shoved into to small a time frame. Besides that they are usually state run and the thing gets all mucked up anyway. Should be a check in station, the vendors are there for a couple of days and works with the individual soldier and family for there needs. Not the need of the group. Because if I need to talk to the Counselor I don't want my chain of command to see it and think that I crazy. Might just be a couple of marriage issues, or financial problem.
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Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS
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Wow... That's a loaded question COL Finley.

If only because I don't think anything could have prepared me for the transition back to civilian life.

I was just such a different person from when I joined. I had grown so much. I had also grown used to dealing with a certain type of people.

In the military, and specifically the Marines, the sense of individual 'Accountability' is so high, it's just not comparable to the outside world. If given a task, it was my task. I took ownership of it, and if I needed help, I needed to ask for it. In general, people weren't going to micro-manage me. It was assumed that, any direction given was going to get done.

On the civilian side, the 'work ethic' isn't the same. It's not required to be. Most jobs don't have huge safety standards. If something is late, timelines can be adjusted. Things are 'no big deal.'
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COL Matt Finley
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How about on the career side? Did you need job, vocational or educational info? if so, did you receive it?
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Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS
Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS
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I actually had a job lined up and started while I was still on terminal leave.

I was working on my degree while on terminal leave, and managed to get 120~ credits during the 90 days I had saves. It got me my A/S, and I was 9 U/L credits from my B/S (just ran out of time).

My story isn't unique, but it isn't common either. I was an Intel Analyst getting out about a year after 9/11, in the DC Metro area.

The command I was at helped me tremendously. I had a good support structure there, and the people were awesome. Had I been in the Fleet, the story would have been a lot different.
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