Posted on Apr 29, 2015
Should women have to cut hair for Ranger School?
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Yes, they should.
This is not a time for vanity. This is a time for mission. There is no priority for coiffing ones 'do when time is of the essence.
I almost wish someone would dare me to GI-Jane my locks. Seems like it would be a relief! :)
This is not a time for vanity. This is a time for mission. There is no priority for coiffing ones 'do when time is of the essence.
I almost wish someone would dare me to GI-Jane my locks. Seems like it would be a relief! :)
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CMSgt (Join to see)
Operative word in that sentence is *ALMOST*. :)
Not my lovely red locks! Then I couldn't be Jessica Rabbit. Right, CSM (Join to see) ?? Ha!
Not my lovely red locks! Then I couldn't be Jessica Rabbit. Right, CSM (Join to see) ?? Ha!
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CSM (Join to see)
There are instances when AR 670-1 does not apply. Ranger School is one of those instances. You wear a sterile uniform and are addressed simply as Ranger (and a bunch of other words I can't say here). SFAS is another example. The standards were to remain the same for all students, the females should look like an Auschwitz survivor just like the males.
CMSgt (Join to see) You would still be gorgeous bald, look how sexy I am Bahahaha!
CMSgt (Join to see) You would still be gorgeous bald, look how sexy I am Bahahaha!
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SGM (Join to see), this past Friday (24APR15), I visited with one of the women who attended the RASP in March. She had to drop out because of a severe ankle injury and is now in a hard cast. Before she went to RASP her hair was quite long, which she put up when in uniform.
She got a SERIOUS haircut when she got to Fort Benning and even now her hair is still quite short. She said it's simply a matter of necessity and survival. There was no spare time, and to spend any time at all on her hair would have been suicide, not to mention all the hygiene and regulatory issues already mentioned. She also said that some of the women also had their hair cut virtually high and tight.
COL Jean (John) F. B. CMSgt (Join to see) SPC Jeana Mitchell SPC Heather Broxton Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS
She got a SERIOUS haircut when she got to Fort Benning and even now her hair is still quite short. She said it's simply a matter of necessity and survival. There was no spare time, and to spend any time at all on her hair would have been suicide, not to mention all the hygiene and regulatory issues already mentioned. She also said that some of the women also had their hair cut virtually high and tight.
COL Jean (John) F. B. CMSgt (Join to see) SPC Jeana Mitchell SPC Heather Broxton Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS
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SPC Jeana Mitchell
My hair was longer when I was in and it was a pain, I fought to keep it in regs and to fit under caps, it would fall down, until finally I cut it short, If I would have had to of been in the field for days and days on end with no way to care for it, It would have been buzzed back then. Long hair is just not practical.
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COL Jean (John) F. B.
When I was a battalion commander during DESERT STORM, my S-2 was a female MI officer with very long blonde hair. I recommended that she cut it short before deploying, but she opted to leave it long and deal with it in the desert, which she will tell you was a royal pain in the butt. She succeeded throughout the entire 14 month deployment and kept it within regulations at all times.
Having said that, I am not sure she would have been as successful if she had been in a line company instead of a headquarters unit, as the "facilities" were certainly more Spartan in the outlying areas. While we also lived in tents and moved very frequently, our set-up was just generally better than the smaller elements could manage.
Having said that, I do not know how a female in Ranger School could manage anything more than a short haircut. Taking care of her hair will be the least of her concerns and would just be a distraction to surviving and completing the course. Those who have not experienced Ranger School just would not understand. I think someone gave these women some good advice, which they apparently took to heart. More power to them...
Having said that, I am not sure she would have been as successful if she had been in a line company instead of a headquarters unit, as the "facilities" were certainly more Spartan in the outlying areas. While we also lived in tents and moved very frequently, our set-up was just generally better than the smaller elements could manage.
Having said that, I do not know how a female in Ranger School could manage anything more than a short haircut. Taking care of her hair will be the least of her concerns and would just be a distraction to surviving and completing the course. Those who have not experienced Ranger School just would not understand. I think someone gave these women some good advice, which they apparently took to heart. More power to them...
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CPT Arch Nissel
There are a few schools that any long hair is impractical that I have been to, why give someone a hand hold in the sawdust pits. It is a decision they have to make and live with. A buzz cut is not required but so much easier to live with in some situations.
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It's outlined in the article.
It's a hygienic haircut, and also for uniformity. It specifically mentions finding "ticks" which can be deadly.
It's a hygienic haircut, and also for uniformity. It specifically mentions finding "ticks" which can be deadly.
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