Posted on Feb 10, 2015
GySgt Joe Strong
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CW5 Sam R. Baker
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It is not the first time the AF tried to ditch the A-10, if not for 1991, it clearly would have been gone, however, the pilots and crew who serve the HOG are more than honorable. They are bad ass CAS from above that every ground pounder is more than appreciative for. The platform is amazing and it still has a purpose, but to buy new toys, they have to cut somewhere. In 1989 when it was going to be transferred to the US Army, there airframes were no issue, it was the operating and maintenance budget that was at issue; It was not going to accompany the airframes. Hopefully the divesture of those airframes will be kept on the ready so when needed they can be quickly activated again.
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Why scrap a aircraft that still has a purpose for new toys that will cost more to maintain? I have seen A-10 in action they can support mount convoys just as well as our Apaches.
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Its no secret that the AF doesn't want it. However, its truly sad when Congressmen and Senators force feed you an airframe all because workers in their district or state will lose jobs.

Senator:Hey DOD you need to cut spending, your budget is too big.
Air Force COS: Ok Lets get rid of this.
Senator: Wait a second, you cant get of of that because my constituents will lose jobs and I wont get re-elected in a few years.

This is the part of politics I hate. It doesn't matter the reasons why. If the service that flies the aircraft doesn't want it let then get rid of it.
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Air Force 'doctored the data' to make A-10 look bad - Anyone Surprised?
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This infuriated me when I was reading the information in USA Today talking about the A-10 being involved in more friendly fire incidents than any other aircraft, and more "collateral damage". These statistics MAY be true, but it is generally called upon for CLOSE air support. I fail to see how a tried and true "stick and gun" aircraft could POSSIBLY be more cost effective than the F-22 and F-35 projects that BOTH have BILLIONS invested and have yet to see combat. You shoot up an A-10, you grab a roll of duct tape, a hammer, and 3 or 4 pieces of sheet metal and you're back in business.......think the F-35 can do that?

Honestly, I think the multirole fighter is a bad concept. It may be cheaper, but it creates the "jack of all trades, master of none". The A-10 is PERFECT for CAS missions, the F-15 and F-16s are the masters of the dogfight, and the B-2 is a phenomenal bomber (as are the B-1 and B-52).

v/r,
CPT Butler
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Maj Matt Hylton
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If you ACTUALLY analyze the data (which the reporter did not have the entire set) and include things like # of sorties flown vs. casualties and include true casualties (dead + wounded) vs. just dead, the numbers reflect a completely different story. Lt Col Carr who has the blog JQP did a quick analysis using what information he could gather on top of the numbers used in the USA Today article and the A-10 did not have the highest rates of casualties related to CAS missions over the entire timeframe of 2001 to now in Iraq and Afghanistan. (see my response below for that blog post from him)
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WILCO Sir.

I hope you guys have to stare at the Monster for years to come, 'cuz I know they've brought home a few of my troops....
v/r,
CPT Butler
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SSG Scott Burk
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The older I get, the more disgusted I become with the top down methods in our government. If something works well, leave it alone and stop messing with it. The A-10 is a fine CAS platform and those of us who were on the ground dodging bullets should have some input on the issue. Look at the Browning M2; 100 year-old design still in use. Politicians and Generals need to listen to the Company/Battery level Soldiers more and actually pay attention to what is said. I ALWAYS spoke my mind and gave my HONEST opinion when asked by my superiors. It was not always what they wanted to hear, but it was what the needed to hear.
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SGT Jim Z.
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No they want the new shiny airplane not the infantrymen or that matter soldiers favorite.
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SGT James Elphick
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If they need budget room for their new multi-role fighter why don't they start retiring their old one, the F16 or maybe the F15. Those are multi-role fighters, the A10 is a dedicated CAS platform, why take it away when the real jets that are going to be replaced get to stay?

*Note - I know the answers to all of this, this is all rhetorical
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Maj Matt Hylton
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COL Charles Williams
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Go figure... Hmmm.... The A-10 is the cool fancy Air Superiority Next Gen Fighter they want and we don't need, but a simple, effective and lethal weapons platform us ground forces need. The Air Force is not concerned about CAS or MAC... They are all about newer cooler fighters we don't need. Why do we need the F35 or whatever they are working on, when the F16, F15, F18 have no matches?
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GySgt Joe Strong
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Really? Just go ahead and read paras 4 & 5.
"What it is really due to is two things: one, the disaster of ridiculously over-complex computer software system; and two, the fact that the gun itself is mainly for the purpose of close support and close in the air combat and the air force does not think that either of those are important.

In fact they think that close support is so unimportant that they are willing to cancel their present A-10 airplane. They'd like to wipe it out immediately, as soon as possible. And it is the best close air-support plane in the world. And they’ll promise that “well, later, sometime later the F-35 will replace it, we don't know quite exactly when.”"

http://rt.com/op-edge/219655-f35-gun-software-disaster/
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