Posted on Feb 3, 2016
SSG John McCammon
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Just trying to get some different perspective on Résumé building.
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LTC Yinon Weiss
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Edited 10 y ago
This is a long subject, but here are my top 5 tips:

1) Do not use ANY acronyms, no matter how obvious they are to. For example, you may think "USAREC" is clear enough, but nobody will know what that means. Most people even in the military don't know what that means. Absolutely zero acronyms or jargon. I see you're a mortarman, so avoid even that term. If a random person on the street can't understand it, don't use it on a resume.

2) Convert military positions to civilian position names. For example, "Squad Leader" is really "Team Leader", (there are no squads in civilian life). Or if that sounds like too much of a demotion, try "Department Leader". Do this for all positions which don't have a direct civilian equivalent.

3) Your bullet points should be results, not responsibilities. This is the #1 mistake I see on every single military resume. People will write "Responsible for XYZ dollars/equipment." That was just your job responsibility, but resume bullet points should talk about what you accomplished, not what you were given. It's fine to have 1-2 lines describing your job, but when writing the actual bullet points, don't list things that you had just by the nature of you holding the position, and that anybody else holding the position can say the same thing. Employers care less about your job description (which 100% of people in that role can claim), and more about what you actually excelled at and how you performed.

4) When writing results, focus on the outcomes, not the inputs. For example, I've seen intel people write "Produced over 500 intelligence reports"... well, sorry, producing paperwork is not an accomplishment in the private sector. What did that person accomplish? For example, how about "Generated intelligence analysis that directly contributed to the capture of seven high priority targets." Use quantitative RESULTS as much as possible. If your bullet point doesn't have a "...resulting in..." (or equivalent) and an outcome, it may not be worth listing.

5) Highlight success by listing awards, but don't include an "Awards Section". It is true that hiring managers don't really understand or care about awards, but awards do help highlight when something you did was exceptional. For example, "Awarded Army Commendation Medal for achieving a 25% increase in the unit's recruiting goals." So in short, use awards to highlight your accomplishments, don't just list them as a separate throw-away section, and also, don't neglect them.

Ok, I know I said top 5, but I had to add one more...

6) Avoid language about combat/killing/blowing things up. You're looking for a civilian job, not a security contract job. So avoid "combat patrols" or "engaged in 4 enemy firefights" or "fired mortar missions faster than any other section" type highlights. Focus on the OUTCOMES, and quantify whenever possible. For example, somebody could say "Conducted operations in an area of 300 square miles which resulted in a 25% reduction in violence and a 30% increase in new businesses emerging due to the improved security posture."
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PO1 Christopher Feugill
PO1 Christopher Feugill
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SFC James Young - Completely agree. One should have a MASTER resume, but tailor it for each position applied for. A resume should flow vertically, from Professional Summary to Skills, to Education and Employment. It should also flow HORIZONTALLY - Put your resume next to the job description and connect key words and accomplishment statements (bullet points) to the things the person that wrote the job description is looking for.
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MSgt Aerospace Propulsion
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I just presented a workshop on this and you nailed a lot of my key points!
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SGT Healthcare Specialist (Combat Medic)
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I have six different resumes. One focuses on leadership/management, another focuses on administration/training,...you will ALWAYS have to tweak your resume for the job as many companies use software that screens for the key words listed in the job description and then it gives them a percentage of match such as 69%, 87%....you want to make sure you have a high match percentage so you will need to use the words they use. For example, of you were a team leader and they want a manager then you have to change leader to manager in you resume. If you have language skills even if you are not fluent but can speak and understand "conversational" language list it.
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SGT Healthcare Specialist (Combat Medic)
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One more thing, The hardest thing for many Vets is "selling" themselves because we tend to think of it as bragging which is something we frown upon in the service. I had a "full-bird", Commander tell me once when I had an issue with selling myself, "It's not bragging if you did it!" No truer words ever spoken. It is tough out here and despite what many companies say about needing employees if you want a job that pays living wages and a few dollars more, you will have a lot of competition. Also last thing, be careful on putting too much on your resume because you will find than even an E-3 or E-4 may have more experiences than most managers and this will either make them feel insecure about hiring you which they won't or they will think you are lying ie. trying to inflate your resume because very few people outside of the military really understand just how much we do and how much responsibility we have even at low pay grades.
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SGT Ben Keen
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One of the things I tell transitioning Veterans is that employers really do not care about WHAT you got, but WHY you got it. This is true for a lot of the resume writing process. The other bit of advice I can tell you from my own experience is do exactly what you are doing now; ask questions! Also, do not forget about the soft skills the military taught you. Look at the job postings that interest you and ensure you craft your resume towards those positions. Make it work FOR you rather than you work for it.
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SPC Joshua Heath
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Edited 10 y ago
The best tip I can give you is to speak with a former military member who's working in HR if at all possible. They see resumes all the time and can probably help translate.

Keep in mind that translating things is mostly about focusing on the numbers and active words that are non-jargon, but there is also a lot of jargon in the civilian world as well. Google where you want to work to find key words of use.
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LTC Jason Mackay
LTC Jason Mackay
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This is a good recommendation. I offer one caveat. I have a family member that works in HR....pretty high up. I had her screen my resume and CV. What she did not have, is the lingo of the industry I was applying to. I culled words from the Job Announcement and used industry specific terms so that the resume sorter would pick it. My family member came back with "too much jargon". So grain of salt unless that HR person screens for that particular field.
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SSG Paul Forel
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LTC Jason Mackay - It sounds as though that HR person did not have the qualifications/experience to know how to assess the resume. There is no such thing as 'too much jargon' if your resume contains the language of the opportunity. "Pretty high up" is not an equivalent to relevant experience. (I'll save you a click- I have thirty years experience as an executive search consultant for a variety of industries.)
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PO1 Christopher Feugill
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Opinions on resumes.... are just like any other opinion - Everyone has one.
Jargon doesn't belong. Put everything in the language the resume reader will understand. Read the job description carefully!
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Any tips in building a Résumé without military jargon/lingo?
SFC Michael Whipple
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Do do do, utilize the ACAP on the closest installation. Best thing I've done.
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SFC Michael Whipple
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Send me an email to Michael dot e dot whipple at Gmail dot Com I'm practicing OPSEC hahaha
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LTC Jason Mackay
LTC Jason Mackay
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What I learned from my MBA program, from my peers, is that civilians are rarely in charge of anything but themselves and three feet around themselves. Being in charge of 3-5 people is a big deal. They had a hard time believing that at 24 years old I had an organization of 80 people (an Automotive Platoon and a Supply Support Activity) I was in charge of, or at 27 years old I commanded a 170 person company.
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SFC James Young
SFC James Young
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I agree. They have had a bad rap. Truth is, I researched the market and started preparing a lost a year before I hit ACAP (a lot of late nights). They confirmed everything I studied. People don't put anything into the transition. They assume they will be issued a job, or career. While companies want to hire vets, they don't want to hire someone who refuses to fit in with their culture.
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SFC James Young
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SSG John McCammon - you don't have to put in addresses until you fill out your HR packet. By then you have received an offer, so you put the mailing address of the unit. Usually name, unit, post, zip. If you are doing this, you are BALLIN!!!
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PO1 William "Chip" Nagel
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Connect on Linked-In with your fellow Vets here. See what they have posted as far as translating their Military Skills into Civilian and see if that will help you.
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SSG William Jones
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Great advice.
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Join LinkedIn and build a profile. Then join the LinkedIn group, "Veteran Mentor Network." Post your resume to your LinkedIn profile. Then start a discussion in the Veteran Mentor Network, asking the group to review and comment on your resume. This group has a number of HR types that will be glad to make sure your resume is ready to attract attention.
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SSG John McCammon
SSG John McCammon
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I was accepted into the group, I'm gonna try to look into that after I get my class work done this weekend.
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SFC Ronnie Simonsen
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Thank you. I joined LinkedIn and the Veteran Mentor Network, but I did not post actual resume to my profile. Will take care of that.
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SSG William Jones
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Excellent advice.
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SFC Adam Potter
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Here is one tip: Station Commander = Recruiting Office Manager

Most civilian resume screeners will have no idea what a Station Commander is.

Also if you want to have a good shot at an interview, tailor the resume to the job posting. As an example, Here we list our required qualifications for a position, and then perhaps desired qualifications as well. I would recommend printing off the job posting and under each qualification, write in where you had that experience, skill etc. Then on your resume in your work history, when you enter your position that has that experience, ensure you highlight what the job posting is asking for. Same with your cover letter, make sure it highlights how you are qualified to do the job, and why you are great at doing what you do.
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Lt Col Stephen Petzold
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If you have had a lot of different jobs while in the military then listing the basic info on all of them can use up a lot of the space on a resume. If that is the case then you might want to look at creating a functional resume rather than a chronological one. With a functional one it is more of listing the skills you have (such as managing people) and then listing some of the things you have done in your military career that support that skill. You can then provide a military biography if they need to see your sequence of jobs.
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Vikki Nicometo
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I found them confusing. I (and many recruiters I know!) preferred chronological resumes. We are looking for career progression and a progression in accomplishments.
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Lt Col Stephen Petzold
Lt Col Stephen Petzold
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I think some of the problem, especially us retired folks have is that for over 20 years, we had a different job every 1.5 to 2 years (or even more often). If we list them all chronologically we end up using most of the 2 pages with just the basic when, where, what information. So we struggle with how to convey our skills specific to the job we are applying for in the limited space left on a chronological resume.
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Vikki Nicometo
Vikki Nicometo
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Lt Col Stephen Petzold - The best way to handle this is to only go into specifics on the last 10 or so years. Then only list the dates/titles of all the previous years. Shoot me a message if you want to see an example of this.
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SFC Ronnie Simonsen
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Vikki Nicometo - Even just in 10 years could easily be 5 jobs though in the military. Could you please share an example? Looking to retire from military soon and with all the recommendations and feedback I have received on my resume, I am not even sure what anyone wants anymore as everyone has completely different ideas.

Thank you.
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CPT Pedro Meza
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Start by having a good dictionary and thesaurus next to you so that you can check word use and word alternatives. I am also willing to help you, just send me a private message, I have over 20 years as an instructor and teacher; including English writing.
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Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS
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"How do you eat an elephant? One bite at a time."

1. Write it how you THINK. Just do it. Don't overthink it. Don't try to translate it. Don't try to convert it. Just make a historical record of what you did in your own words. (Rough Draft Phase)
2. Go through, find any acronyms and spell them out. (Alpha Phase)
3. Go through and look for Jargon & Tradespeak. If a "normal" person, as in the HR person wouldn't understand it, convert it to "Plain English." After you have done this, give it to someone else, preferably non-military and have them do the same.
4. Use terms like Supervisor and Manager. Yes we are Leaders, however we hold Supervisory & Management "Roles" or "Billets." Many of the terms we use mean different things when read by a Civilian. It's like the difference between American English & British English. The "nuances" are what will get you.
5. Define things. If you managed a warehouse, how big was it. What was its value. If you supervised/managed/led people, how many? Provide context (i.e. accomplishments or tasks).
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