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1LT Promotions
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I've been checking G1 Gateway everyday in order to provide anyone/everyone with questions about how long the promotion/scroll process takes, with an answer. Although this may not and will not be everyone's experience, I wanted to at least provide a timeline/staff routing overview for an otherwise frustrating and obscured process.
This following is a roll up of the scroll process that I've experienced so far. My promotion packet was submitted on 26 Aug 16 (I was eligible for promotion on 15 Sep 16, my 24 month TIG) and the state promotion order was published on 03 Oct 16.
02 Nov 16: Awaiting Packet Acceptance (15 Days)
17 Nov 16: Awaiting Post Screen Review (10 Days)
27 Nov 16: Awaiting Assignment to Scroll (16 Days)
13 Dec 16: Scroll Created (51 Days)
03 Feb 17: Awaiting Dep Chief of Staff Personnel (55 days)
30 Mar 17: Awaiting Off of Judge Advocate General (34 Days)
05 May 17: Awaiting Dir Chief of Staff Personnel approval (19 Days)
24 May 17: Awaiting Off of Sec of Defense approval (21 Days)
14 Jun 17: Orders Published
TOTAL DAYS ON SCROLL = 221 Days
This following is a roll up of the scroll process that I've experienced so far. My promotion packet was submitted on 26 Aug 16 (I was eligible for promotion on 15 Sep 16, my 24 month TIG) and the state promotion order was published on 03 Oct 16.
02 Nov 16: Awaiting Packet Acceptance (15 Days)
17 Nov 16: Awaiting Post Screen Review (10 Days)
27 Nov 16: Awaiting Assignment to Scroll (16 Days)
13 Dec 16: Scroll Created (51 Days)
03 Feb 17: Awaiting Dep Chief of Staff Personnel (55 days)
30 Mar 17: Awaiting Off of Judge Advocate General (34 Days)
05 May 17: Awaiting Dir Chief of Staff Personnel approval (19 Days)
24 May 17: Awaiting Off of Sec of Defense approval (21 Days)
14 Jun 17: Orders Published
TOTAL DAYS ON SCROLL = 221 Days
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CPT(P) (Join to see)
Does anyone have the flow chart, how many steps are left. When I was promoted to CPT there was a flow chart so you knew how many steps were left in the process.
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I saw that today! from the flow charts I've looked at, it looks like SECDEF is one of the last steps? Based on other's comments about previous scrolls, ours seems to be moving faster than others....fingers crossed on getting published prior to 15 July....that's when I take my company to JRTC preferably NOT as an LT.
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CPT(P) (Join to see) - This response is a little late to your post, but this was the only timeline I found.
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Congratulations P05-17!! Updates to total time on scroll are noted in my original post. Looks like we moved through the process quicker than usual. I'm okay with that!
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Congratulations, ma'am. I wish L02-17 was as fortunate. We were assigned to a scroll around the same time as your scroll, but we're currently at day 168, and still sitting at the JAG, where we've been for over 100 days (according to the tracker). Almost 30 months TIG as a butter bar.
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I'm on the scroll too - but I haven't been able to get on the G1 Gateway for the last couple of days. Anyone else having that issue? Or, anyone know what the scroll's status is?
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I just updated the status in my original post. It's now in the SECDEF office for approval.
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For those of you who have made it through the FedRec process NGAUS has a survey on their homepage that seeks your input. Below is a quick article on the survey's initial findings:
https://www.ngaus.org/newsroom/news/survey-guardsmen-wait-years-promotions?utm_source=MagnetMail&utm_medium=email&utm_term= [login to see] .edu&utm_content=November%2020%2C%202017%20%28WR%29&utm_campaign=Guard%20Officers%3A%20Long%20Wait%20for%20Promotions
https://www.ngaus.org/newsroom/news/survey-guardsmen-wait-years-promotions?utm_source=MagnetMail&utm_medium=email&utm_term= [login to see] .edu&utm_content=November%2020%2C%202017%20%28WR%29&utm_campaign=Guard%20Officers%3A%20Long%20Wait%20for%20Promotions
Survey: Guardsmen Wait Years for Promotions
Washington Report (November 21, 2017) More than 500 National Guard officers have responded to a NGAUS survey regarding wait times for federally recognized promotions, and several say they have waited more than a year. In fact, a few have waited more than 1,000 days to receive the promotion they have earned.
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Where can I see the level my packet is at? I check iPerms for my orders, but I don't know what website shows me who has/hasn't signed off on it.
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Go to the NGB G1 Portal at https://g1arng.army.pentagon.mil/
Click G1 Data Portal (RCMS)
Click My Soldier Data
Scroll down to the bottom and click FEDREC
This is mostly from memory since I haven't been able to log on to G1 Portal since I got dual persona CACs. Pretty sure you'll be able to find it from there though.
Click G1 Data Portal (RCMS)
Click My Soldier Data
Scroll down to the bottom and click FEDREC
This is mostly from memory since I haven't been able to log on to G1 Portal since I got dual persona CACs. Pretty sure you'll be able to find it from there though.
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1LT(P) (Join to see)
It changed a little. Once you click the link:
Click Career Center ORB/ERB
Then My Soldier Data.....etc
Thanks for the help!
Click Career Center ORB/ERB
Then My Soldier Data.....etc
Thanks for the help!
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Hello,
My latest description on the Gateway is : awaiting Dir Ch of Staff Pers approval; P03-17; 230 Days in DoD Approval cycle.
Have anyone been this long in the process before getting promoted?
My latest description on the Gateway is : awaiting Dir Ch of Staff Pers approval; P03-17; 230 Days in DoD Approval cycle.
Have anyone been this long in the process before getting promoted?
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I believe anything over 180 days usually means there was an issue from what I have heard. Basically if someone on your scroll has an issue (such as a CID flag), then the entire scroll will be held up because they have to address it. If it can't be resolved, they can just drop that name from the scroll but it still causes a delay. And, as we have seen, they are already slow when it comes to the FEDREC process, so one hiccup just makes an already slow process insanely long. If I were you sir, I would call Rene Marshall and ask her what's up with your scroll. Her number is [login to see] .
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Mr. Stockham,
Thank you x3...!! If you want no non-sense and well thought out answer ask a Chief!!
Thank you x3...!! If you want no non-sense and well thought out answer ask a Chief!!
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Rumor is 03-17 published today. We should see something in IPERMS within the next 48 hours.
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I've been sitting on this for about 50 days: Awaiting Dir of Mil Pers Mgmt; P06-17; 127 Days in DoD Approval cycle
I dont see that in any of the status' you show. Sine you guys were P05-17, I'm hoping we are around the same 130-140 days?
I dont see that in any of the status' you show. Sine you guys were P05-17, I'm hoping we are around the same 130-140 days?
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Our S1 offers reps, our G1's at state and this scrolling process....on top of going through vacancy review...is an incredible injustice to our soldiers. I've been in the promotion process for almost two years. Still a 1LT.
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Happy 141st day sitting in the dusty queue with nothing going on, no updates and no hope of it moving either. Awesome. This promotion will be ongoing for TWO YEARS for me in August.
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.....and we have an update:
Awaiting Off of Sec of Defense approval; P06-17; 141 Days in DoD Approval cycle
Awaiting Off of Sec of Defense approval; P06-17; 141 Days in DoD Approval cycle
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NGB orders posted in IPERMS yesterday for P06-17, effective date of promotion 9 Aug 17
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I'm on scroll P03-17. 188 days into the approval cycle... State orders in hand since August. I know I didn't answer your question, but at least you have another scroll to base your timeline. I've been told I'll have FED REC by July.
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MAJ (Join to see)
SFC Chrissy Palmer at NGB. I'm not sure of her number and I'm not near my computer, but she's in global. I talked to her a couple of weeks ago. My state deputy G1 also talked to someone. Apparently, 4 officers are being pulled off of the scroll for various issues in CID or DAIG checks. It was supposed to have already happened.
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MAJ (Join to see) - well considering I have a recent TS and haven't broken the damn law, I should still be on the scroll. My G1 hasn't given any update. This is ridiculous though.
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This is a problem with the scroll process that needs to be addressed. Everyone is held up because of someone else's background.
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I've posted my "for your frame of reference" type comments before for those on 05-017, so here's the latest update: NGB order published on 19 MAY 17. That equalled 191 days on the counter, right at about 11 months from the time my unit submitted the promotion packet to my State's JFHQ.
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LTC (Join to see)
Thanks for that info. If P05-17 were to take the same amount of time (191 days in the scroll process), our approval date would be 12 August 2017. As we all know, no two scrolls have taken the same amount of time to get through the pipeline, but I think we can all agree that it'll still be a while. Hopefully we'll see another update to the tracker soon.
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LTC (Join to see) - Too true. I also think that the transitions between administrations definitely impacted the process. I'm sure more so in some cases than others. I think mine, P02-017, was at JAG so long simply because the DOD had not completed their transition yet when it should have gone to the SECDEF's office. Purely conjecture, but it fits the timeline. According to the NGB FEDREC packet manager, SFC Palmer, once signed by SECDEF, it usually takes two weeks to get it back to NGB and for the orders to publish.
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Looks like P05-17 is moving faster than recent scrolls. Today's update shows it at Office of the SECDEF as some others have mentioned, and we are 111 days into the scroll counter. I hope we might see something within the next month. Good news for everyone on P05-17.
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Does anybody know what the colors white or yellow mean on the scroll list or number of days? I know what green and red mean. Thanks.
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It's just the standard Green, Amber, Red scale to show how something is progressing compared to the "standard" timeline.
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UPDATE: Scroll 05-17 is now on Day 1 - Awaiting Off Dep Ch of Staff Personel
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1LT (Join to see) - Sybil, all promotions for 1LT and CPT will be back paid. Any promotion from CPT to MAJ and above are not back paid. The official DOR is when the SEC DEF signs off on the order. Because that is the official DOR, any promotions to MAJ and above only get back pay from that date. However, all 1LT and CPT promotions are back paid to the official scroll start date. Lucky you! Furthermore, if you would like to contact someone, this is my POC at NGB... [login to see] . I've only left messages because she hasn't answered my calls. Good luck trying to make contact.
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Correction to comment regarding back pay: Promotion to CPT is not back paid. You are only back paid from the official date of rank (i.e. when SECDEF signs off).
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Hello,
I spoke to a CW2 Brad Stockham and explained the process of what could be the reason of the delay.
Please see the attached message.
Hope this helps...
LT. H. Anderson
I spoke to a CW2 Brad Stockham and explained the process of what could be the reason of the delay.
Please see the attached message.
Hope this helps...
LT. H. Anderson
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MAJ (Join to see) - Thank you for the update. A very frustrating process so say the least.
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Yep....CPT to MAJ. I keep checking the G1 Gateway and it says "Scroll created with packets and List_ID; P05-17; 0 Days in DoD Approval cycle." No change in that status for at least the last 30 days.
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Background checks? That doesn't make any sense. Since when do officers go through a background check during a promotion?
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So if a few packets get sent back for corrections the entire scroll is put behind?
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