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SFC Joe S. Davis Jr., MSM, DSL
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<14px;">, APPROVED, AND PUBLISHED!<br><br>2. New revision of the regulation will define the following terms: eccentric, faddish,conservative, inconspicuous, unsightly, hair braids/plaits.<br><br>3. AR 670-1 will be a PUNITIVE order in the new regulation. &nbsp;<br><br>4. Sideburns will not extend below the top of the ear. &nbsp;<br><br>5. Soldiers will be clean shaven on AND off duty (even during leave).<br><br>6. Female and Male hair grooming standards will become more restrictive and better defined(I'll have pictures for you at MHS).<br><br>7. Females will be allowed to put their hair into a pony tail during PT.<br><br>8. Males will be prohibited from wearing cosmetics to include nail polish, females may wear cosmetics conservatively, but can only wear nail polish in service, mess, or dress uniforms.<br><br>9. Females fingernail length will not exceed 1/4 inch, no fake nails, add-ons, or extensions will be authorized.<br><br>10. Tattoos will not be visible above the neck line when the IPFU is worn. Tattoos will not extend below the wrist line and not on the hands. Sleeve tattoos will be prohibited (this one will be grandfathered).<br><br>11. Soldiers will not walk while engaged in activities that require the hand salute (eating, cell phone use, smoking, etc.).<br><br>12. ACUs will not be commercially pressed; hand ironing of the ACU only will be authorized.</span></font></p><font color="#666666"><span style="line-height: 17px; font-size: 14px;"><p><br>13. Bags worn over the shoulder will only be black or the color print of the uniform i.e. ACU, without logos.<br><br>14. the new regulation will specify civilian clothes standards both on and off duty and both on and off post.<br><br>15. No visible body piercings on or off duty and on or off post, males will never be allowed to wear earrings. Ear gauging will be unauthorized.<br><br>16. No dental ornamentation or gold teeth will be authorized.<br><br>17. Soldiers will be authorized to wear authorized ballistic eye wear in garrison.<br><br>18. Officers will be authorized to wear non-subdued rank on their headgear in garrison.<br><br>19. Males will be authorized to carry black umbrella with ASU.</p><p><br></p><p>http://www.armytimes.com/article/20140307/NEWS07/303070021/Army-secretary-approves-new-grooming-uniform-regs<br></p></span></font><div class="pta-link-card"><div class="pta-link-card-picture"><img src="http://www.armytimes.com/graphics/ody/alticon.png"></div><div class="pta-link-card-content"><div class="pta-link-card-title"><a href="http://www.armytimes.com/article/20140307/NEWS07/303070021/Army-secretary-approves-new-grooming-uniform-regs" target="_blank">Army secretary approves new grooming, uniform regs</a></div><div class="pta-link-card-description">
Army Secretary John McHugh on Thursday approved a long-awaited revision to grooming and uniform regulations, according to an Army statement.
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CSM Guy R. Niles
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Is this the complete list or is there more than 19?  Be careful what you all still in uniform fail to push back on!  Do not be or become Lemmings or Sheeple?  None of this affects me as I am retired; however, I care about how it affects my Guys and Gals still in Uniform. 


Some feedback:




1. MANY changes are coming to AR 670-1. This is just a
summary of some of them.


DO NOT BEGIN TO ENFORCE UNTIL THE REGULATION IS COMPLETE,
APPROVED, AND PUBLISHED!


Okay, Duh!




2. New revision of the regulation will define the following
terms: eccentric, faddish,conservative, inconspicuous, unsightly, hair
braids/plaits. 

It had damn well better be well defined!  Ensure that it can be understood by all.  Do not settle for high-level ambiguity!




3. AR 670-1 will be a PUNITIVE order in the new regulation.   

I have always considered it Punitive and pursued it/enforced
it as such.



 

4. Sideburns will not extend below the top of the ear.   

Do not agree, Nothing wrong with previous standard!




5. Soldiers will be clean shaven on AND off duty (even
during leave).  

Again, do not agree, impossible to
enforce! 



 



6. Female and Male hair grooming standards will become more
restrictive and better defined(I'll have pictures for you at MHS). 

Oh, got to see this!




7. Females will be allowed to put their hair into a pony
tail during PT. 

No Issues, its smart.







8. Males will be prohibited from wearing cosmetics to
include nail polish, females may wear cosmetics conservatively, but can only
wear nail polish in service, mess, or dress uniforms. 

Needs to be clearly defined in as much as written, already
ambiguous with regard to male Soldiers.







9. Females fingernail length will not exceed 1/4 inch, no
fake nails, add-ons, or extensions will be authorized. 

Agree!  Enforce it
with a vengeance!







10. Tattoos will not be visible above the neck line when the
IPFU is worn. Tattoos will not extend below the wrist line and not on the
hands. Sleeve tattoos will be prohibited (this one will be grandfathered). 

Be careful with this one as it may be cause for enhanced
scrutiny and what may follow due to the added scrutiny.  Could possibly be a discriminator when you
are competing for a special assignment or billet, really!




11. Soldiers will not walk while engaged in activities that
require the hand salute (eating, cell phone use, smoking, etc.). 

 Agree, really no change! 
Enforce with a vengeance!






12. ACUs will not be commercially pressed; hand ironing of
the ACU only will be authorized. 

Okay, smart!  Enforce it! 



 




13. Bags worn over the shoulder will only be black or the
color print of the uniform i.e. ACU, without logos. 

No Argument







14. the new regulation will specify civilian clothes
standards both on and off duty and both on and off post.  Okay, this ain’t no (isn’t a) County
Club. 

You all must push back on this if it is or
becomes Too Restrictive or Ultraconservative. 
 Conservative dress off-duty is okay; however, not all of  grew up that way.  Feeling like a mis-guided Crusade!  Just sayin'.




15. No visible body piercings on or off duty and on or off
post, males will never be allowed to wear earrings. Ear gauging will be
unauthorized. 

Agree!



 



16. No dental ornamentation or gold teeth will be
authorized. 


Agree! 
However, what if prior to coming into the service a Soldier to be
received (a) Gold tooth/teeth from an authorized and needed dental procedure
(repair, crown, etc…)?  What then, will
they get ripped out at the repo Depot?




17. Soldiers will be authorized to wear authorized ballistic
eye wear in garrison. 

Agree!




18. Officers will be authorized to wear non-subdued rank on
their headgear in garrison. 

I thought they did
already!  WTH!




19. Males will be authorized to carry black umbrella with
ASU. 

Really? 
Is this really an issue?




Guys and Gals, never trust anyone further than you can throw
them.  This could escalate out of control
and will only lessen in intensity when we’re/you are engaged in another conflict.  DA Leadership is bored!  Be careful.  Stay Safe Brothers and Sisters!




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SFC Joe S. Davis Jr., MSM, DSL
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Well said, thanks for the inner perspective on reality!
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SGT Brian Nile
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I totally agree!
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SFC James Baber
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While they all sound good and look good on paper, we are still going to have the same problems that currently persist, enforcement. With the current problems of many NCOs that don't enforce the current standards because of not wanting to "catch a case" as one NCO stated in another thread a month or so back, even with new rules, the problem is not the rules or whether or not they are clear, ambiguous or in black and white definitions, the problem is the current status and mentality of many of the untrained, un-mentored and unknowing of how to enforce standards because it wasn't done for most of them as they were fast tracked because of the multiple deployments that have occurred during the last decade plus. And from what I have also witnessed not just in real life, but also here on RP is that we have many SFCs that have some of that mentality as well, if you aren't doing your part to mentor and guide these young E5/6s than you can't complain about the problems and issues that you say you are dealing with, if you don't become part of the solution than you are just as much part of the problem as well.


The military has been involved in dual wars for longer that most of the current E5/6s and even a good portion of the E7s that are in have even been in the military, so they have not had the advantage or ability to be properly taught, mentored or guided in how to perform in a garrison environment, it is not their fault, but it is the fault of every senior to include myself who was an NCO prior to the wars for not doing a better job of preparing these new NCOs for our future in the military. That is one of the reasons why I try my best to be as active as I can on RP to help with that guidance and mentoring of many NCOs as well as Officers and junior Soldiers who will one day become NCOs and leaders, we have to get back to basics of not worrying so much about someone complaining about us enforcing rules or that we are picking on them and do what our job as NCOs is, which is teaching and molding Soldiers to be the future of the military and to be able to replace us if need be, stop being afraid of "catching a case" and be what you are supposed to be, a professional Soldier.

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SFC Joe S. Davis Jr., MSM, DSL
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Well said and nothing less than the TRUTH NCO's. Please note this is good knowledge "BE, KNOW, DO". Thanks for the info.
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SSG Zachery Mitchell
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<p>Remember, these are just "proposed" changes. No one knows what the actual changes will be. I remember in October they said it should be signed and pushed out within 60 days, now here we are in March. They've been talking about these proposed changes for well over a year now. None of us know what's actually in the "new and improved" AR 670-1 so Until it is published and put out I'm not going to worry about it. Once it is put out I will educate myself, as all good leaders should, and then enforce the new changes. </p><p><br></p>
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SSgt George Brown
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SSG Mitchell, is that ran by Gannet?  They are going after the Marine Corps top General.  They do not have the military's best interests in mind.
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SSG Zachery Mitchell
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<p>SSgt Brown, </p><p><br></p><p>Army Times, Marine Corps Times, Air Force Times, Navy Times...they're all ran by the same people. Not really sure who the parent company is.&nbsp;I just know that everything I read or see on their cover I take with a grain of salt. There's a lot better sources for accurate and current news dealing with the Army. </p>
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SSG Evacuation Ncoic
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SSgt Brown,

You are indeed correct. They are all ran by Gannet
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SFC Aaron Calmes
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But wait, isn't that new PT test about to be released? The Army Times said so. How many time have we seen that is the past few years.
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I'm relieved that our leadership appears to have nothing more important to worry about.  Punitive uniform regs and complaints of soldiers who do better while deployed than in garrison remind me again of this Bill Mauldin classic.  By the way, if that's your foremost complaint as a combat leader, life's pretty good.  That said, I do like a bit of it.
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LTC John Czarnecki
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Ol' Blood and Guts Patton was indeed a martinet; his fixation on uniform was a peculiarity that didn't endear him much with the troops... it was his continued combat successes that made him loved.&nbsp; Garrison duty in the 3rd Army must have been a cast iron bitch.
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SSG V. Michelle Woods
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I will be the HAPPIEST ponytail-wearing NCO between 0600-0730 :) 
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1SG First Sergeant
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I know you will be.
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SSG V. Michelle Woods
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Notice the enormous smile on my face :)
No more bun drama during PT woohoo!!!
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SFC Chief Public Affairs NCO
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However, as always commands may dictate when a hairstyle that is accepted becomes excessive. Buns are allowed, but there are some female soldiers that wear extensions that create a bun almost the same size of their heads and it does not come down over their collar and they cram their headgear down onto it. At some point a leader is forced to say to the person that it is excessive and looks unprofessional. The ensuing confrontation is what has forced leadership to feel compelled to micromanage our appearances.
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I definitely disagree with #5. Like many others have stated, how are they going to truly enforce it with someone on leave? I too don't shave on the weekend or on leave. If I had to go to the PX or come in to the office while on leave then I would shave in order to maintain a professional appearance. I mostly did this while at Fort Lee where there are AIT students around.

I would like to ask if this is a double standard against men. If men have to shave their facial hair, which naturally occurs, then why are long haired females allowed to "let down" their hair in the evening, on weekends, or on leave? I'm not saying anything against women but pointing out a double standard. I sure don't mind females being able to relax and letting down their hair. Just as equally, men should be able to relax on the weekends and on leave.
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Also, I saw a quote about 4-5 months back from the Head Dermatologist of the Army saying he didn't agree with Soldiers having to shave everyday.  Soldiers faces need time to heal and the weekend with a relaxed shaving period allows that.  He warned that if soldiers have to shave 7 days a week there will be many more shaving profiles incoming.
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SGT Drew, that's a great point too. Constantly "cutting" the face will definitely do some long term damage although it will be different for each person.
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SSG Mike Angelo
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With a smaller Force structure, the leadership can regulate what each standard would be to benefit the team, squad, platoon, company... whole organization.
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SFC Joe S. Davis Jr., MSM, DSL
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Thanks point made!
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Hyphotetical situation

 

PVT Dominguez goes home to Puerto Rico on leave, while walking down the beach with my few hairs on my chin and overdue haircut, someone approaches me and says, are you a Soldier? Do you know that the regulation says .....??

 

If PVT Dominguez decides to ignore this person and continue enjoying the sun, what then? Or if PVT Dominguez says I am not in the service, regardless of how obvious it can be that he is?

 

My point is that I don't see how we are going to be able to enforce that one, unless we spend our well deserved time off looking for violations to the shaving while on leave regulation

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SSG Stryker Systems Maintainer
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I agree. Weekends and leave is designed to relax, unwind, and be yourself.  Should not have worry about "the regulation" cop. We as Soldiers and leaders have enough to deal while at work and with irresponsible individuals.  Almost to a point where the military member cannot come doors and relax.  So things need attention, I got that. Not all.
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SFC Steven Borders
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I completely agree SFC Dominguez. There is no way you can enforce the shaving while on leave regulation. I for one have bad skin anyways and shaving everyday leaves my face irritated. So on the weekends I let it heal as best I can to get ready for the next week of shaving. I always make sure I am squared away come Monday. This and the tattoo policy are my biggest grips.
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MSG Gene Potocki
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Soldiers will be clean shaven on AND off duty (even during leave). Who is going to follow the service member around on leave to enforce this??
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With this, I see leave as a chance to relax, lay back and just be 'you'. If you desire to let a little stash grow, so be it. I see no reason to call out a Soldier, if seen out and about, and potentially punish. 
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SSG Cannon Crew Member
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Why Am i not surprised that saying or believing that people should be responsible for themselves and that they shouldnt have to be chased for corrections to be made, was voted down by someone that outranks me. Who ise surprised? Nope, not this guy
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and PFC Biven, I agree, it just depends where you are at. Back home in BFE Who gives a poop Arkansas, No one cares, but around post and going on and off the installation, yeah, people will say something if you walk in looking like a crazy half sasquatch
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As usual, someone wants to dusagree without posting any info as to why, so ill just take it as you misunderstand what i am saying because honestly you must be misunderstanding it to not agree with it
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Glad to see the "clean shaven while off-duty" didn't make it in there.  At least I couldn't find it.
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I scanned though it once, and I didn't see it, I only saw one section on shaving, and it wasn't there.
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SFC Michael Hasbun
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Its not in there. ;0)
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I glanced over it twice, its not in there. 


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CSM Michael J. Uhlig
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I understand those that remain are in the right uniform for a week straight get candy from the Chaplain......


Leaders, bottom line is there are changes, some new things in the regulation. Now, its up to you to train your formation on the changes, we have grown people in our ranks, those that do not want to change are simply challenging you adjust their behavior, are you up for the task?  You can send them to the candy Chaplain for a treat when they do good.....

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CH (CPT) Heather Davis
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CSM Uhlig:


I did not get that memo on passing out candy to our troops. However, I recall when I came in the military in 1984 it was a command event. The regulations were modeled to you, and you knew the regulations and followed them.


V/R


CH (CPT) Davis

30 years and still serving!!

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CSM Michael J. Uhlig
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You are my type of Chaplain!  Too many times we have a candy chaplain in the formation.


Thanks for your continued service to our great nation.

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CH (CPT) Heather Davis
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CSM Uhlig:


Respectfully, I have written papers on intergenerational PTSD, and you would be surprised of the caliber of Chaplains whom you have in your Chaplain Corp. I have taken extensive classes to understand PTSD and Sexual addiction and the impact of childhood PTSD.

I will share with
you. I came up on big
shoulders,
and
it was the
NCOs that have shaped me and my heart is for God and Country!

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CH (CPT) Heather Davis
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CSM Uhlig:


There is
nothing wrong with drive on candy, I have eaten my share on
10-mile ruck
march. I have jammed taffy in my
big mouth
when I was the first female in formation.


In WWII candy was passed out Hershey bars, were a big deal. I commend these Chaplain for they are integrating with the troops.



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