AR 670-1: What is your reaction to the newest changes?
Army Secretary John McHugh on Thursday approved a long-awaited revision to grooming and uniform regulations, according to an Army statement.
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Is this the complete list or is there more than 19? Be careful what you all still in uniform fail to push back on! Do not be or become Lemmings or Sheeple? None of this affects me as I am retired; however, I care about how it affects my Guys and Gals still in Uniform.
Some feedback:
1. MANY changes are coming to AR 670-1. This is just a
summary of some of them.
DO NOT BEGIN TO ENFORCE UNTIL THE REGULATION IS COMPLETE,
APPROVED, AND PUBLISHED!
Okay, Duh!
2. New revision of the regulation will define the following
terms: eccentric, faddish,conservative, inconspicuous, unsightly, hair
braids/plaits.
It had damn well better be well defined! Ensure that it can be understood by all. Do not settle for high-level ambiguity!
3. AR 670-1 will be a PUNITIVE order in the new regulation.
I have always considered it Punitive and pursued it/enforced
it as such.
4. Sideburns will not extend below the top of the ear.
Do not agree, Nothing wrong with previous standard!
5. Soldiers will be clean shaven on AND off duty (even
during leave).
Again, do not agree, impossible to
enforce!
6. Female and Male hair grooming standards will become more
restrictive and better defined(I'll have pictures for you at MHS).
Oh, got to see this!
7. Females will be allowed to put their hair into a pony
tail during PT.
No Issues, its smart.
8. Males will be prohibited from wearing cosmetics to
include nail polish, females may wear cosmetics conservatively, but can only
wear nail polish in service, mess, or dress uniforms.
Needs to be clearly defined in as much as written, already
ambiguous with regard to male Soldiers.
9. Females fingernail length will not exceed 1/4 inch, no
fake nails, add-ons, or extensions will be authorized.
Agree! Enforce it
with a vengeance!
10. Tattoos will not be visible above the neck line when the
IPFU is worn. Tattoos will not extend below the wrist line and not on the
hands. Sleeve tattoos will be prohibited (this one will be grandfathered).
Be careful with this one as it may be cause for enhanced
scrutiny and what may follow due to the added scrutiny. Could possibly be a discriminator when you
are competing for a special assignment or billet, really!
11. Soldiers will not walk while engaged in activities that
require the hand salute (eating, cell phone use, smoking, etc.).
Agree, really no change!
Enforce with a vengeance!
12. ACUs will not be commercially pressed; hand ironing of
the ACU only will be authorized.
Okay, smart! Enforce it!
13. Bags worn over the shoulder will only be black or the
color print of the uniform i.e. ACU, without logos.
No Argument
14. the new regulation will specify civilian clothes
standards both on and off duty and both on and off post. Okay, this ain’t no (isn’t a) County
Club.
You all must push back on this if it is or
becomes Too Restrictive or Ultraconservative.
Conservative dress off-duty is okay; however, not all of grew up that way. Feeling like a mis-guided Crusade! Just sayin'.
15. No visible body piercings on or off duty and on or off
post, males will never be allowed to wear earrings. Ear gauging will be
unauthorized.
Agree!
16. No dental ornamentation or gold teeth will be
authorized.
Agree!
However, what if prior to coming into the service a Soldier to be
received (a) Gold tooth/teeth from an authorized and needed dental procedure
(repair, crown, etc…)? What then, will
they get ripped out at the repo Depot?
17. Soldiers will be authorized to wear authorized ballistic
eye wear in garrison.
Agree!
18. Officers will be authorized to wear non-subdued rank on
their headgear in garrison.
I thought they did
already! WTH!
19. Males will be authorized to carry black umbrella with
ASU.
Really?
Is this really an issue?
Guys and Gals, never trust anyone further than you can throw
them. This could escalate out of control
and will only lessen in intensity when we’re/you are engaged in another conflict. DA Leadership is bored! Be careful. Stay Safe Brothers and Sisters!
While they all sound good and look good on paper, we are still going to have the same problems that currently persist, enforcement. With the current problems of many NCOs that don't enforce the current standards because of not wanting to "catch a case" as one NCO stated in another thread a month or so back, even with new rules, the problem is not the rules or whether or not they are clear, ambiguous or in black and white definitions, the problem is the current status and mentality of many of the untrained, un-mentored and unknowing of how to enforce standards because it wasn't done for most of them as they were fast tracked because of the multiple deployments that have occurred during the last decade plus. And from what I have also witnessed not just in real life, but also here on RP is that we have many SFCs that have some of that mentality as well, if you aren't doing your part to mentor and guide these young E5/6s than you can't complain about the problems and issues that you say you are dealing with, if you don't become part of the solution than you are just as much part of the problem as well.
The military has been involved in dual wars for longer that most of the current E5/6s and even a good portion of the E7s that are in have even been in the military, so they have not had the advantage or ability to be properly taught, mentored or guided in how to perform in a garrison environment, it is not their fault, but it is the fault of every senior to include myself who was an NCO prior to the wars for not doing a better job of preparing these new NCOs for our future in the military. That is one of the reasons why I try my best to be as active as I can on RP to help with that guidance and mentoring of many NCOs as well as Officers and junior Soldiers who will one day become NCOs and leaders, we have to get back to basics of not worrying so much about someone complaining about us enforcing rules or that we are picking on them and do what our job as NCOs is, which is teaching and molding Soldiers to be the future of the military and to be able to replace us if need be, stop being afraid of "catching a case" and be what you are supposed to be, a professional Soldier.
I would like to ask if this is a double standard against men. If men have to shave their facial hair, which naturally occurs, then why are long haired females allowed to "let down" their hair in the evening, on weekends, or on leave? I'm not saying anything against women but pointing out a double standard. I sure don't mind females being able to relax and letting down their hair. Just as equally, men should be able to relax on the weekends and on leave.
Hyphotetical situation
PVT Dominguez goes home to Puerto Rico on leave, while walking down the beach with my few hairs on my chin and overdue haircut, someone approaches me and says, are you a Soldier? Do you know that the regulation says .....??
If PVT Dominguez decides to ignore this person and continue enjoying the sun, what then? Or if PVT Dominguez says I am not in the service, regardless of how obvious it can be that he is?
My point is that I don't see how we are going to be able to enforce that one, unless we spend our well deserved time off looking for violations to the shaving while on leave regulation
I understand those that remain are in the right uniform for a week straight get candy from the Chaplain......
Leaders, bottom line is there are changes, some new things in the regulation. Now, its up to you to train your formation on the changes, we have grown people in our ranks, those that do not want to change are simply challenging you adjust their behavior, are you up for the task? You can send them to the candy Chaplain for a treat when they do good.....
CSM Uhlig:
I did not get that memo on passing out candy to our troops. However, I recall when I came in the military in 1984 it was a command event. The regulations were modeled to you, and you knew the regulations and followed them.
V/R
CH (CPT) Davis
30 years and still serving!!
You are my type of Chaplain! Too many times we have a candy chaplain in the formation.
Thanks for your continued service to our great nation.
CSM Uhlig:
Respectfully, I have written papers on intergenerational PTSD, and you would be surprised of the caliber of Chaplains whom you have in your Chaplain Corp. I have taken extensive classes to understand PTSD and Sexual addiction and the impact of childhood PTSD.
I will share with
you. I came up on big
shoulders,
and
it was the
NCOs that have shaped me and my heart is for God and Country!
CSM Uhlig:
There is
nothing wrong with drive on candy, I have eaten my share on
10-mile ruck
march. I have jammed taffy in my
big mouth
when I was the first female in formation.
In WWII candy was passed out Hershey bars, were a big deal. I commend these Chaplain for they are integrating with the troops.

Professionalism
Regulation
