Posted on Dec 27, 2014
ARCOM for calling out inappropriate use in Social Media. Appropriate or not?
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She did the right thing by doing an on the spot correction, her choice of words to address the issue are questionable, but she was fully justified in her actions. I doubt that she expected an ARCOM for what she did. I think in this case the "Brass" used the ARCOM to put the spotlight on bad behavior online.
I would hate to be the Joe's who got called out! "Stuff" rolls down hill and that crap HEAT round was fired off by a General officer! By the time it got to the company level it would be like a freight train load of you are screwed dude and in deep.......
I would hate to be the Joe's who got called out! "Stuff" rolls down hill and that crap HEAT round was fired off by a General officer! By the time it got to the company level it would be like a freight train load of you are screwed dude and in deep.......
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Definitely not especially since she basically blasted it out to the top Os in those chains. Like fly swatting with a 12 gauge.
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At most a pat on the back... maybe a coin. You don't get medals for "doing what is expected". That is part of how the Air Force evaluation system got so over inflated. Where is my AFCOMM for showing up early the last week to get us caught up on work? Where is my AAM for telling a troop it is inappropriate to address an NCO as "sarge".... by gosh, where is my AFMSM for being such a great influence on Rally Point....
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People are still talking about this with no mention of the "stupid" soldiers that she was trying to correct. How about instead of judging this leaders actions we make sure our soldiers understand that they are accountable for their actions 24/7 365?! I'm sure glad everyone knows what they would've done to "correct" the 1SG here in this situation. Yet and still no mention of a plan to correct the soldiers who comments caused the 1SG to do what she did.
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No. Maybe a pat on the back? But an ARCOM? What has happened to the Army?
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I know many Soldiers who do much more and greater and get Nothing! This is a joke!
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Wow, 86% nice. Check out on Facebook Dysfunctional Veterans, those guys are funny as all get out (IMO) and love trolling ol 1SG Moerk.
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I received a NAM at retirement for trimming the hedges at the admin building we inherited from a decommissioned Squadron. So there's that. Not a fan of chest candy.
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Maybe it was a Navy COM. I can't remember. It was a bullshit here is your consolation prize for 21 years of service. Her receiving an ARCOM and it making headlines is equal to Michelle Obama hash tagging bring back our girls. Them girls are still gone.
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Updated Army Evaluation Now Includes Mandatory 'Facebook Presence' Requirement
THE PENTAGON — Sgt. Maj. of the Army Ray Chandler announced this week that senior enlisted personnel would be rated on their ability to police online social media activity, in what many are nicknaming the “Facebook bullet” on the non-commissioned officer report (NCOER). According to senior defense officials, raters would evaluate exactly how many hours …
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It is an abuse of senior leadership that has plagued the military for years, after retiring from the Marine Corps and seeing first hand a Navy Corpsman putting the life of other before himself and to hear a Colonel say that no enlisted can act braver than the officer in charge of the operation then see the officer put in for a silver star and the navy corpsman put in for a navy commendation I have no problem believing that a senior officer would sign off on a award for a senior enlisted do troll the internet during work hours just to find ways to keep the lower enlisted in lined.
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SMA supports the actions from the 1SG. I do also. Was it "ARCOM" worthy? Personally I don't think so. Was it the right thing to do to engage those Soldiers? Absolutely.
http://www.armytimes.com/story/military/careers/army/enlisted/2015/01/09/sma-chandler-defends-moerk/21464883/
http://www.armytimes.com/story/military/careers/army/enlisted/2015/01/09/sma-chandler-defends-moerk/21464883/

SMA defends 1SGT's actions that earned her an ARCOM
Sergeant Major of the Army Ray Chandler stepped up to defend an NCO's online on-the-spot correction of soldiers, who berated her online.
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What she did was right. ARCOM worthy? Maybe a bullet statement for a body of work with SHARP but not the sole reason for the ARCOM.
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I think no.
Awarding a medal seems a bit much to me. I'm a Marine, and while we have a lot of possible awards/medals/ribbons we can earn, it certainly seems to take much MORE to earn them than this.
I'm not busting on the Army here, I have respect for all of our men and women in uniform, but my understanding is that the Army does have a LOT of medals that are given out, such as throwing a grenade in boot camp. If that is the case, perhaps the mentality is to give awards more liberally in the Army to help boost morale and encourage that behavior.
Anyway, just my thoughts.
Awarding a medal seems a bit much to me. I'm a Marine, and while we have a lot of possible awards/medals/ribbons we can earn, it certainly seems to take much MORE to earn them than this.
I'm not busting on the Army here, I have respect for all of our men and women in uniform, but my understanding is that the Army does have a LOT of medals that are given out, such as throwing a grenade in boot camp. If that is the case, perhaps the mentality is to give awards more liberally in the Army to help boost morale and encourage that behavior.
Anyway, just my thoughts.
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Compleatly undeserved, Compleatly deminishes what an award is supposed to mean.
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This is the most redicoulous things I have ever seen, makes me want to tear up my Impact ARCOM I got down range for what I did during a mascal. I wish she would join RP, but then again, she might report us all for hazing and get another ARCOM
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I completely agree and understand...I got a frickin' AAM as an ETS award and she gets an ARCOM for being a blue falcon.
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Granted, she DID NOT have to contact the offending Soldier's Co CDRs and 1SGs as per SHARP doctrine, yet there is such thing as "Professional Courtesy"...
Obviously she failed to control the professional attitude of the offensive bloggers, hence started using her rank and minor offensive language to reinforce her correction (standard procedure in the Army). As things went from bad to worst, she took the time to identify the Soldiers and once again, correct them...and yet again she failed.
So, did she attempt to contact the offensive Soldiers' Chain of Command and NCO Support Channel BEFORE making the decision to contact the Army SHARP Director? If not...why?
Didn't she have faith on her fellow SNCOs, 1SGs, SGMs and CSMs? The local SHARP program?
Or were her feelings so deeply hurt (and I'm not saying this on a demeaning way as we ALL have feelings) that she decided to take this all the way to the top, knowing the SHARP Director would not let this slide due to the current climate of sexism in the service?
I'm 100% sure that once she became an NCO she appreciated been able to be the first one to handle situations before the "higher ups" got involved, which sadly, is a courtesy she did not provide to the others...and was rewarded for.
So I wonder, now that she is a 1SG, what if the roles reverse and she finds herself at the wrong end of the sword due to a fellow NCO reporting an "unruly" Soldier in her unit to her "higher ups"...will she be "upset" at that NCO? Will she point out not receiving "Professional Courtesy"?
So...did she deserved recognition for her actions correcting the Soldiers? Yes. She upheld the values. Was the recognition deserving of an ARCOM? No. She did not allow other SNCOs to "do their job" by making assumptions about the quality of their SHARP program based on "unruly" Soldiers PERSONAL comments..and no doubt her hurt personal feelings contributed.
Obviously she failed to control the professional attitude of the offensive bloggers, hence started using her rank and minor offensive language to reinforce her correction (standard procedure in the Army). As things went from bad to worst, she took the time to identify the Soldiers and once again, correct them...and yet again she failed.
So, did she attempt to contact the offensive Soldiers' Chain of Command and NCO Support Channel BEFORE making the decision to contact the Army SHARP Director? If not...why?
Didn't she have faith on her fellow SNCOs, 1SGs, SGMs and CSMs? The local SHARP program?
Or were her feelings so deeply hurt (and I'm not saying this on a demeaning way as we ALL have feelings) that she decided to take this all the way to the top, knowing the SHARP Director would not let this slide due to the current climate of sexism in the service?
I'm 100% sure that once she became an NCO she appreciated been able to be the first one to handle situations before the "higher ups" got involved, which sadly, is a courtesy she did not provide to the others...and was rewarded for.
So I wonder, now that she is a 1SG, what if the roles reverse and she finds herself at the wrong end of the sword due to a fellow NCO reporting an "unruly" Soldier in her unit to her "higher ups"...will she be "upset" at that NCO? Will she point out not receiving "Professional Courtesy"?
So...did she deserved recognition for her actions correcting the Soldiers? Yes. She upheld the values. Was the recognition deserving of an ARCOM? No. She did not allow other SNCOs to "do their job" by making assumptions about the quality of their SHARP program based on "unruly" Soldiers PERSONAL comments..and no doubt her hurt personal feelings contributed.
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SFC (Join to see) No award. She did what she should have done, but was seemingly unprofessional doing it. One act of unprofessionalism does not beget another especially by a 1SG.
This article makes me glad I deactivated my Facebook accounts. I don't post unprofessional comments, but I do utilize my voice when it comes to certain issues. As a retiree I have no rank, but don't need the consternation.
This article makes me glad I deactivated my Facebook accounts. I don't post unprofessional comments, but I do utilize my voice when it comes to certain issues. As a retiree I have no rank, but don't need the consternation.
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As a SSG, I bet if I went over her head with an issue like this with soldiers I would have been standing in front of her desk in her office with my own 4856, not a 638.
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