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I would not accurately vote for either answer. I voted yes because i had to vote in order to write this response and to show my support for the soldier. I agree she was doing what a 1SGT should do to insure OPSEC and respectful image of the Army and its soldiers is maintained. Trolling-the media hyped up that word. however, from what I know, an ARCOM was probably too high an award if just awarded for just this action. Perhaps the award did encompass other things. Again, media can exaggerate things. Hard to make a fair judgement without knowing the facts. But to belittle that soldier becauses her superiors may have been too leniant with the awads, as some have done on other sites, is absolutely wrong!
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I don't think it deserves an ARCOM, but any SM should correct any other SM out of line. I don't see soldiers getting ARCOMS that make sure their soldier gets home when they are drunk or taking time out of their day after duty hours to help another soldier out.
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SGT(P) Llamas, I founded the award to be worthy of the occasion because it is commendation award. She earned accommodation for her actions of taking initiative in the absence of orders. That is what NCOs are supposed to do!. Can you imagine how many young women read the post with discuss but felt powerless to act? Let's assume it viewed by several others Soldiers who were probably leaders or moreover females. But none of them took the necessary action, so yes she is not a bystander at least not at this moment. She led by example, and I would hope other will follow her lead. Good on you Battle (1SG). Hooah!!!
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LTJG Er/Trauma Rn
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What about every other NCO that also does that? I have seen a lot of NCOs do what she had done with no award, females and males alike. You say you hope people follow her lead, but what about the soldiers already doing that before her? You think this gives female soldiers more power? I doubt it. I am glad, however, to see that it is a female 1SG, but still doesn't deserve that award unless they are going to give it to everyone else that had done what she did and yes there are people out there.
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I believe we are somewhat stressing the same point that is people should recognize those who take action when others remain silence. For example, taking into perspective what she did goes beyond what anyone else have done to my knowledge. The thought to look these Soldiers up on AKO and find their command leadership and address them as to their Soldiers action is worth recognition. I know most people would say that what a 1SG should do, but do know of any that has besides her?

I believe those that came before her and stepped up call alarm to mistreatment others deserves to be mention as well. But let’s not get mad at the person who someone outside her control identified her for an award. I feel the other Soldiers you mention because someone should shine light on them especially if they were young Soldiers (rank). I love empowering young Soldier because it shows leadership. In closing, if know of someone else worthy of being recognized fill out DA 638 and recommend them. I believe leadership welcome Soldiers with value.
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SPC Erica Simonsen
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I commend her for saying something and other soldiers should have as well, but an ARCOM? I swear they are just giving out medals these days.
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It's quite clear exactly what this 1SG's command is doing. They are making a positive example out of her because they want to encourage this behavior. I would hardly call it trolling when she was going through and specifically calling out active duty service members for behavior that is absolutely not kosher. Considering the backlash she's been getting on various pages and websites suggesting she fucker her way into this award, her rank, etc it's hard to not agree with both her COC and the 1SG herself that this kind of self policing's actually needed.
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Something I realized several hours but hadn't been able to post it yet. From the results of the survey, as of 2217 hours tonight, the vast majority believe what 1SG Moerk did was warranted especially considering her job as a senior NCO. What we don't agree with is the awarding of an ARCOM for her actions. With that said, how many are upset at her for the award? To be blunt, if you are then you are wrong because it is higher ups who are to blame for the recommendation, approval and actual awarding. Think about it. I would take a gander to say if she's a good 1SG then she's probably embarrassed by the award for such a simple action commensurate with her job. BLUF: I blame the senior commanders for the actual award.
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No it is not worthy of a ARCOM in my opinion. Should military personnel be aware and careful of what they post or say, absolutely. Is it wrong for a SNCO to be checking out media sites where SM post to make sure they are using proper edict or for OPSEC reasons, no. Especially if they are using a profile picture in uniform. Because your actions reflect on all of us.

The problem I have is why did you even comment in the first place if you know your action will be attacked or misunderstood. If a subject or action is that offensive or contraversial the best course of action is to walk away. There are threads/topics here on Rally Point that are just best to stay away from also. Otherwise they can and will get nasty and down right rude.
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SPC Daniel Edwards
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I have to say both on this. I think it is a great job that she held soldiers to a high standard on social media but I am still pissed that she got an ARCOM out of it. My battle buddy during deployment survived an RPG at point-blank-range and got just a purple heart and an hand shake. Don't get me wrong, the purple heart is a great medal to have but it always comes with a sacrifice.
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I'm contemplating a re-entry to service next year (gotta get in "fighting" shape) after about a 13 year break in service... PLEASE tell me this is not the kind of BS I will have to put up with!

Did the 1SG DESERVE an ARCOM? Not just "NO," but HELL NO!

Sure, what these soldiers did was wrong, but rather than make an ass of yourself and try to pull rank online, why not just report them to their respective commands and let them be appropriately counselled. More importantly, how was it that she didn't have something better to do than surf the net?

To me, she certainly wasn't doing anything "above and beyond" and she certainly is NOT deserving of such an award!
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CMC Robert Young
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Sir, you have a keen insight into the seagoing services. I'm still fighting to get a half dozen CGAMs issued for a project that concluded more than a year ago. I've heard every excuse, and every dodge in the world for not doing the right thing. It's mind numbing. It's almost like somebody at the top of the food chain is going to be required to cut the medal off their own chest to award it to a junior member. I don't get it.

I'm not in favor of having a cookiejar on the chief's desk where you can pick up your award as you walk by, but clearly the CG awards process is both stingy and more than a little convoluted. We need a system that is a little less stingy, and a little more user friendly.

Master Chief rant complete ;-)
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Roger that, I got out with 11 collateral duties (as a PO3) and was denied a NAM for an exit award (what I got was nothing, not even a handshake). I'm looking at the Army Reserves though...
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CMC Robert Young
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PO3 Glade, I hear you!! I had several strong performers leave my last unit without anything either. I was pretty offended that an O3 would question an E8 making an award recommendation. I figured by the time I was a senior chief, if I said, a lieutenant should know that it ought to happen.....but it's the new Guard now.
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CMC Robert Young
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You hit the nail on the head "used PROPERLY". To deny an award or approve an award in an arbitrary manner devalues the whole process. The it becomes about something other than recognizing the performance of the member.

I truly don't understand how or why things do or don't happen. During my last T10 recall, the unit had three successive OICs (Two MCPOs & one SCPO). The first two received MSMs as parting gifts. Both well earned; absolutely deserved for extraordinary service. The final OIC, same outstanding performance but his MSM recommendation was downgraded to a CGCM. The retiring XPO (SCPO) same thing, an MSM reduced to CGCM. I was asked by the command to help draft the packages since I was the OPS Boss and had access to all of the unit's accomplishments. There was no question that all concerned should have received the MSM. However, every O4 and above who departed from the group/sector who could find any convoluted way to attach themselves to our special project took an MSM with them.

I'm with you sir. I enjoy drafting packages for my people, and even those folks who outside my chain of command. In the almost eight years I was on AD between 9/11 and 2011, I drafted/submitted around 80 awards (MSM, CGCM, CGAM, MOVSM, LOC, CGMUC, CGMTC). I have very good success rate and am happy to say that about 95% of those submitted were approved. The best part of being at the top is reading those awards at Colors/Quarters and seeing my subordinates recognized for their performance.

As to the matter at hand, I have been given a host of excuses for awards that remain outstanding. The unit continue to support OCONUS military operations for two years after I left finally being completely decommissioned last fall. I've been told that the chiefs who followed me didn't submit well developed package; AD DivOs declined to endorse reservists for awards; department heads/OIC & XPO all PCSed taking whatever knowledge of the issues with them; new sector awards board policy excluded chiefs from participating so only Os many of whom had no idea about the unit/mission to determine what an award looks like; and the best one of all, "I don't know what you're talking about. It must have gotten lost. Besides, it's too late to do anything about now anyway."

In fairness, I have made some small progress over the last couple of months in getting several CGAMs into the system. I'm waiting to see how well they are received.

Master Chief rant complete! Out.
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This is a joke and makes me sick. I along with my crews have gone into hot LZ's to rescue wounded men and women on the ground. we have done msns outside of our scope of responsibility to help the wounded and have had other agencies even take credit for what we have done. For the most part I have excepted the denial for recognition and/or clarification, but when I see this it makes me sick. Not that this Solder was recognized for what she did but for the level at which she received the award.
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This is a joke and makes me sick, I along with my crews have gone into hot LZ's to rescue wounded men and women on the ground, we have done msns outside of our scope of responsibility to help the wounded,and have had other agencies take credit for what we have done. For the most part I have excepted the denial for recognition and/or clarification. But when I see this it makes me sick, not that this Solder was recognized for what she did but for the level at which she received the award.
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SSG John Erny
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She did the right thing by doing an on the spot correction, her choice of words to address the issue are questionable, but she was fully justified in her actions. I doubt that she expected an ARCOM for what she did. I think in this case the "Brass" used the ARCOM to put the spotlight on bad behavior online.

I would hate to be the Joe's who got called out! "Stuff" rolls down hill and that crap HEAT round was fired off by a General officer! By the time it got to the company level it would be like a freight train load of you are screwed dude and in deep.......
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Definitely not especially since she basically blasted it out to the top Os in those chains. Like fly swatting with a 12 gauge.
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TSgt David Holman
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At most a pat on the back... maybe a coin. You don't get medals for "doing what is expected". That is part of how the Air Force evaluation system got so over inflated. Where is my AFCOMM for showing up early the last week to get us caught up on work? Where is my AAM for telling a troop it is inappropriate to address an NCO as "sarge".... by gosh, where is my AFMSM for being such a great influence on Rally Point....
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People are still talking about this with no mention of the "stupid" soldiers that she was trying to correct. How about instead of judging this leaders actions we make sure our soldiers understand that they are accountable for their actions 24/7 365?! I'm sure glad everyone knows what they would've done to "correct" the 1SG here in this situation. Yet and still no mention of a plan to correct the soldiers who comments caused the 1SG to do what she did.
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CPL Zachariah Chitwood
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No. Maybe a pat on the back? But an ARCOM? What has happened to the Army?
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I think awarding an ARCOM for this is a little over-the-top. I would probably have recognized her with a Letter of Commendation or something, but not a military decoration.

I applaud the fact that she took action to correct and report something she saw as detrimental to good order and discipline, but, honestly, that is expected of all NCOs. Is it worthy of an ARCOM? Not in my opinion.
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I agree Sir, Letter of Appreciation or Certification of Achievement or etc., but some of the new Army are receiving awards for social media corrections
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Well, she still sucks!
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CW3 Military Funeral Honors
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I know many Soldiers who do much more and greater and get Nothing! This is a joke!
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CPL Don East
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This is a huge Joke. This kind of stupid stuff went on back when I was in. I knew I had to get out when Cooks passing out MREs received a BS for it. I am not surprised by this in anyway. I would have been in deep if this clown had "searched me out".
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CPO Test Resource & Information Manager
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Wow, 86% nice. Check out on Facebook Dysfunctional Veterans, those guys are funny as all get out (IMO) and love trolling ol 1SG Moerk.
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I received a NAM at retirement for trimming the hedges at the admin building we inherited from a decommissioned Squadron. So there's that. Not a fan of chest candy.
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Maybe it was a Navy COM. I can't remember. It was a bullshit here is your consolation prize for 21 years of service. Her receiving an ARCOM and it making headlines is equal to Michelle Obama hash tagging bring back our girls. Them girls are still gone.
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CW5 Jim Steddum
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SSgt Benny Spiller
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It is an abuse of senior leadership that has plagued the military for years, after retiring from the Marine Corps and seeing first hand a Navy Corpsman putting the life of other before himself and to hear a Colonel say that no enlisted can act braver than the officer in charge of the operation then see the officer put in for a silver star and the navy corpsman put in for a navy commendation I have no problem believing that a senior officer would sign off on a award for a senior enlisted do troll the internet during work hours just to find ways to keep the lower enlisted in lined.
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SGT Stephen George
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I wish there was an I'm not sure option.
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1SG Steven Stankovich
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SMA supports the actions from the 1SG. I do also. Was it "ARCOM" worthy? Personally I don't think so. Was it the right thing to do to engage those Soldiers? Absolutely.

http://www.armytimes.com/story/military/careers/army/enlisted/2015/01/09/sma-chandler-defends-moerk/21464883/
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What she did was right. ARCOM worthy? Maybe a bullet statement for a body of work with SHARP but not the sole reason for the ARCOM.
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I got an AAM a combat deployment. Makes me sick.
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Cpl Anthony Pearson
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I think no.

Awarding a medal seems a bit much to me. I'm a Marine, and while we have a lot of possible awards/medals/ribbons we can earn, it certainly seems to take much MORE to earn them than this.

I'm not busting on the Army here, I have respect for all of our men and women in uniform, but my understanding is that the Army does have a LOT of medals that are given out, such as throwing a grenade in boot camp. If that is the case, perhaps the mentality is to give awards more liberally in the Army to help boost morale and encourage that behavior.

Anyway, just my thoughts.
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Cpl Bob Whitemann
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Compleatly undeserved, Compleatly deminishes what an award is supposed to mean.
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SPC Dave St.Andrew
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This is the most redicoulous things I have ever seen, makes me want to tear up my Impact ARCOM I got down range for what I did during a mascal. I wish she would join RP, but then again, she might report us all for hazing and get another ARCOM
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I completely agree and understand...I got a frickin' AAM as an ETS award and she gets an ARCOM for being a blue falcon.
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Granted, she DID NOT have to contact the offending Soldier's Co CDRs and 1SGs as per SHARP doctrine, yet there is such thing as "Professional Courtesy"...

Obviously she failed to control the professional attitude of the offensive bloggers, hence started using her rank and minor offensive language to reinforce her correction (standard procedure in the Army). As things went from bad to worst, she took the time to identify the Soldiers and once again, correct them...and yet again she failed.

So, did she attempt to contact the offensive Soldiers' Chain of Command and NCO Support Channel BEFORE making the decision to contact the Army SHARP Director? If not...why?
Didn't she have faith on her fellow SNCOs, 1SGs, SGMs and CSMs? The local SHARP program?

Or were her feelings so deeply hurt (and I'm not saying this on a demeaning way as we ALL have feelings) that she decided to take this all the way to the top, knowing the SHARP Director would not let this slide due to the current climate of sexism in the service?

I'm 100% sure that once she became an NCO she appreciated been able to be the first one to handle situations before the "higher ups" got involved, which sadly, is a courtesy she did not provide to the others...and was rewarded for.

So I wonder, now that she is a 1SG, what if the roles reverse and she finds herself at the wrong end of the sword due to a fellow NCO reporting an "unruly" Soldier in her unit to her "higher ups"...will she be "upset" at that NCO? Will she point out not receiving "Professional Courtesy"?

So...did she deserved recognition for her actions correcting the Soldiers? Yes. She upheld the values. Was the recognition deserving of an ARCOM? No. She did not allow other SNCOs to "do their job" by making assumptions about the quality of their SHARP program based on "unruly" Soldiers PERSONAL comments..and no doubt her hurt personal feelings contributed.
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SFC Dr. Joseph Finck, BS, MA, DSS
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SFC (Join to see) No award. She did what she should have done, but was seemingly unprofessional doing it. One act of unprofessionalism does not beget another especially by a 1SG.

This article makes me glad I deactivated my Facebook accounts. I don't post unprofessional comments, but I do utilize my voice when it comes to certain issues. As a retiree I have no rank, but don't need the consternation.
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As a SSG, I bet if I went over her head with an issue like this with soldiers I would have been standing in front of her desk in her office with my own 4856, not a 638.
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Now I know its been said more than once and for the life of me why was this not handled at the lowest level? I know when I was in and a PSG we taught our subordinate leaders that most things can be handled at the lowest level i.e. TL then SL and then if needed the PSG/PL.

I wonder how she would feel if Soldiers of her unit started taking problems directly to the CSM/BDE CDR or even the Post level, probably wouldn't feel to happy about it. But has it been posted or can it be found somewhere what the video in question was and what the soldiers said to her that was so offensive?

And just playing devils advocate here: how did she know the soldiers in question were actually the ones making comments on social media. (As a side not if you have never done a facebook search for yourself, you should try it sometime. I found 5 accounts with photos of me..who were not me it was crazy!)

Glad I retired when I did!
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I didn't even get an ARCOM for a 9 month deployment.
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SSgt Everett Jones
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Yes, she was doing what she should have done and is expected of her, however, it is nowhere near worthy of a medal. I knew many people who went to help with Katrina and Ike who received Achievement medals or nothing at all, (depends on your rank in the AF if you qualify for an award), so how would what she did be considered greater than what they did?
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SPC William Clark
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Not worthy of an ARCOM. Nope nope.
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Where does it end? Is she going to come over and check my closet to make sure it is inspection ready. The stupid comment in this article totally discredited this article, IMO. She could of said, what you are saying online is stupid, but calling her troops stupid, well didn't justify any type of an award . I hope the 1st Sgt I know are more focused on training and morale within a unit.
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Uh how did that online conversation go? I'm a 1SG, that comment and picture violates SHARP. What is your unit and phone number, I am calling your commander tomorrow.
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It burns me to see things like 1SG gets ARCOM for trolling. She (1SG Moerk) didn't get the award for trolling, she infact got the award for enforcing standards and going above and beyone to inform uniformed personel on those standards. Trolling is what the other Soldiers did after she confronted the Soldiers who were not adhering to Army Policies. 1SG Moerk did what GOOD leaders do, face adversity head on, not because she wanted an award but because it was the right thing to do. 1SG Moerk did an outstanding job and is very deserving of her award!
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SGT Brian Watkins
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An ARCOM, really though? You got Soldiers putting in work down range that don't even get an ARCOM, lol.
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I took that into account before I made my post. Being that I have been down range 3 times already and will be back soon. I know that we also have Soldiers who do nothing more then go to the gym/MWR/school down range and get ARCOMs, or get ARCOMs as PCS/ETS awards without going above and beyond during their tenure. You have Soldiers who are getting ARCOMs for their ability to memorize (SOM/NCO boards). This Sr. NCO didn't just memorize a policy or teach a class she when out of her way to make a difference for the greater good of the Army as a whole. She enforced Army policy's and standards. She displayed the professionalism, leadership, & competence that the NCO Creed & Soldiers Creeds talk about. She lived the Army Values. She exercised initiative by taking appropriate action in the absence of orders, all without compromising her integrity or moral courage.

There are so many different things in just that small bit of time that so many different other folks tend to "overlook" simply because it is happening over the internet and not in their face.
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I think that the 1SG's actions were wrong and unnecessary. Here intent was good. Those soldiers were out of hand and she did the right by correcting them, but the way she handled the situation I think was wrong. No need to CC the higher ups in SHARP for something that could've easily been handled at the lowest level. That just shows to junior soldiers that if they mess up, their leaders, the ones that are supposed to mentor us and we should look up to, instead of correcting us and making us better soldiers and better future leaders, they simply just ruin our careers and throw us under the bus and not bother helping us.

As for the ARCOM, pure politics. I'm sure she didn't put herself for the ARCOM.
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An ARCOM is definitely not warranted in this situation. She was doing her job, nothing more, nothing less by correcting soldiers whose actions are not in keeping with the Army values and decorum expected of a US Service Member. However, in her corrections, she made comments that act as a discredit to her professionalism. In calling individuals "stupid" and "asshat", she essentially sank to their level in an attempt to do what was right, which in my mind discredits the action.
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I could see her getting a coin and a pat on the back, but an ARCOM? She was doing what an NCO should be doing-enforcing the standards, nothing more.
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Soldier's are given an ARCOM for a year in combat, I cannot believe this "1SG" got an ARCOM for trolling the web
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My guess in this particular command - if you update your Facebook account with a current bathroom selfie it might put you in the running for a MSM.

(Yes, being very sarcastic and tounge in cheek).
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SGT William Howell
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Hell I have got ARCOMS for less!
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Seriously? Most E-4 and below who deployed and were in actual combat got ARCOMs. Such a disgrace.

Did she go, look at what I did? Print it out? Did it really make a difference - online???
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Nope. AAM, maybe...
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I don't even see that sir. More like a 4856 if she did this during the duty day.
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Yeah, you're prolly right. I do think of they would have given her an AAM initially, there wouldn't be so much push back. Interesting to see where we're at as an Army right now...actually, it's quite sad. But I better keep my mouth shut before I say too much. I'll wait til' my ETS date of 18 FEB...
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It's absurd these days that we give out ARCOMS for anything. Let's say she was just doing her job, why should anyone be rewarded for doing their job? Celebrating mediocrity is, in my opinion, one of the handful of black eyes the Army is giving itself.
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I've been on my share of Awards Boards. We turned back every recommendation that was just for someone doing their job. Sounds like this is one of those.
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SGT Shaul Funt
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I just vomit In my mouth.

I know that if i would have done the same thing I would never have got an answer from no one.
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SPC Stephanie Oanes
SPC Stephanie Oanes
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right!
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SGT Shaul Funt
SGT Shaul Funt
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Aman sister
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