Posted on Apr 21, 2015
Are people scared to speak their minds on RP because of the higher ranking military personnel that use this site?
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Are people scared to speak their minds on RP because of the higher ranking military personnel that use this site aswell? It has very well turned into a debate chat room of sorts. I see alot of questions being thrown around about does rank play a role here or there? Does it and are you scared the wrong person may see your thread or take offense and find your superior.. There are those those few who do that Sort of thing.. Case in question PFC ask how to get his PLT SGT off his back..
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I hope not SGT (Join to see) as I am genuinely interested in what everyone has to say, I am always respectful, and like when I was a Soldier, I learn a great deal from everyone. Rank does not give one a monopoly on the best ideas and opinions.
I hope with my response to the PFC about his PSG, I was not creating tension. That was not my intent.
But, if that is an issue, it is issue worth talking about.
I you guys want me and others banned from here, that is OK too.
But, we are all veterans...
I hope with my response to the PFC about his PSG, I was not creating tension. That was not my intent.
But, if that is an issue, it is issue worth talking about.
I you guys want me and others banned from here, that is OK too.
But, we are all veterans...
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SGT (Join to see)
Lol well i appreciate it Sir, i try to pride myself on the small portion of intellectual ability i do have lol
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I myself, have never ran into anyone being un professional on here towards myself or by anyone in the higher echelon if you will.. I do however know how one small thing can turn alot of Soldiers away.. Like I said its on FB of all places. I hope this site continues to be a source of goodness and great advice for those younger Soldiers when they feel they have nowhere left to turn.. I know i have been there young PV2 Holbrook thrown into the Special Operations community whew was that rough lol coming straight outta AIT. Anyways thats all this post was about. I know good people will respond and most of them higher ranking.. Hopefully they will see this question and all the answers and views and see this is a place to turn and that they can ask without ridicule. Thats all :)
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SGT Richard H.
For whatever this SGT's opinion is worth, Sir, I've never seen anything but constructive input from you.
COL Charles Williams
COL Charles Williams
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SSgt (Join to see)
COL Charles Williams <-- This guy listens and that is a sign of leadership and I think rather dispels a lot of myths. Leaders listen......
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I'm glad you posed this question after what has been going on lately. Without knowing specifics or taking sides, I saw that discussion you mentioned as a very young soldier asking for help. He didn't mention specifics or names, but asked a question that a person at his stage of his career would often do. To have someone report him to his CoC is very uncool. I would rather have that Private in my unit than the NCO. I am embarrassed of his behavior. So much for being a mentor and a leader. More like nah nah nah nah nah I'm gonna get you in trouble.....Lord help us.
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TSgt Tim (lj) Littlejohn
Some people just can't help them selves, it's in their genes to brown nose/kiss butt. And they get promoted too!
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SGT (Join to see)
That was my thought on it aswell, I would rather have a Soldier ask for help to fix an issue with him/herself than not try to fix it at all.. As I'm not sure the intention of the person that did what he did i can only hope it was good intentions, though the way he spoke about possibly being his PLT SGT seemed threatening in a way. I dunno hopefully young Soldiers continue to ask for help her when they feel they have nowhere to turn.
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PV2 (Join to see)
I know that folks saw what the NCO did as wrong...I think the name calling was wrong. I came from a different era in service where one didn't air unit or platoon or squad stuff online, on the other hand, the soldier worded it in a strange way that opened himself up to ridicule. I truly hope he didn't smoked and instead got some much needed constructive advice.
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I see the mixing of ranks as a way to get guidance and knowledge for those with whom I would not normally converse. I would not normally have a conversation with a COL/Capt., a nominative CSM, or a GO. Here it is not only possible, but a regular occurrence.
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SFC Steven Borders
Exactly SFC (Join to see) It is true for the lower enlisted as well. I am kind of an exception as I deal with CPT's, MAJ's, and LTC's on a regular basis. And on rare occasions COL's. But not to often usually when they come to visit and ask questions.
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My policy is that I try not to say anything on RP that I wouldn't say to someone in person during a debate. I try to keep that in mind, with a recognition of rank. (And have failed a few times!)
I'm fully aware that anything I say on here, if misconstrued, could come back to haunt me, as I am still a SM.
This type of incident has happened. A lower enlisted soldier said a few things on this site and someone contacted his superiors. It's definitely something of which we should be aware.
I'm fully aware that anything I say on here, if misconstrued, could come back to haunt me, as I am still a SM.
This type of incident has happened. A lower enlisted soldier said a few things on this site and someone contacted his superiors. It's definitely something of which we should be aware.
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Yes, PFC Snuffy was definitely in the wrong, but it should have been handled at the lowest level like most others attempted to do so.
I might be a veteran and no longer bound to the UCMJ, but that doesn't mean I try to go around intentionally offending or disrespecting others. However, when I was still enlisted, sure it's intimidating, knowing someone can misinterpret your text with their own tone of emotion.
I see hundreds of people my rank with my same AFSC/MOS, yet almost NONE of them are active on this site... Why do you think that is? I'd imagine it's even more so with jr ranks of MOSs that you're not supposed to have opinions, just shut up and color.
I really like RP, and I think all ranks, branches, MOSs, AFSCs, and rates should use it! I think it will make for a better community. But one must understand the struggle to that ideal.
I might be a veteran and no longer bound to the UCMJ, but that doesn't mean I try to go around intentionally offending or disrespecting others. However, when I was still enlisted, sure it's intimidating, knowing someone can misinterpret your text with their own tone of emotion.
I see hundreds of people my rank with my same AFSC/MOS, yet almost NONE of them are active on this site... Why do you think that is? I'd imagine it's even more so with jr ranks of MOSs that you're not supposed to have opinions, just shut up and color.
I really like RP, and I think all ranks, branches, MOSs, AFSCs, and rates should use it! I think it will make for a better community. But one must understand the struggle to that ideal.
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If I was an active duty Private and saw that thread, I'd hightail it out of this forum! We can argue semantics, but Privates don't think that way
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SGT (Join to see)
I know I am but, for me, the word 'military' needs to removed. I do not speak my mind because a higher 'personnel', or power, stops me from reaching through the keyboard and choking so many people...regardless of military rank...and I know I am better for that restraint.
Oh Lord, there are so many that need a good choking too.
For the record, I do not endorse violence or reaching into the digital world to choke anyone...well there is one person and you know who you are.
I know I am but, for me, the word 'military' needs to removed. I do not speak my mind because a higher 'personnel', or power, stops me from reaching through the keyboard and choking so many people...regardless of military rank...and I know I am better for that restraint.
Oh Lord, there are so many that need a good choking too.
For the record, I do not endorse violence or reaching into the digital world to choke anyone...well there is one person and you know who you are.
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MSG Brad Sand
Thanks SFC (Join to see)
If one cannot find the humor in my post above then they were one of the people I was not joking about.
If one cannot find the humor in my post above then they were one of the people I was not joking about.
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SFC (Join to see)
lol right on!
i was actually referring to the guy who responded to a serious question with something to the tune of " pt them until they drop"... which provides very little (at best) benefit to any conversation. I should have clarified that one. I completely agreed with your assessment
i was actually referring to the guy who responded to a serious question with something to the tune of " pt them until they drop"... which provides very little (at best) benefit to any conversation. I should have clarified that one. I completely agreed with your assessment
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Coming from a "fuzzy" I am honestly intimidated by the high ranks on here. But that is mainly because i have only met a handful of nco's and officers i can talk to normally. I rarely am needed to talk to anyone over staff sergeant and almost never an officer during a normal work day. I am the lowest rank possible, i still have a long time before i come even close to having the same amount of experience as my leaders. And that point is made very clear every day.
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MSG Brad Sand
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Jason, you have more experience of being Jason Gorecki than anyone here will ever have! Everyone put their pants on the same way you do and are able to make the same mistake...just that those above you have already made enough mistakes to learn from them...hopefully.
Jason, you have more experience of being Jason Gorecki than anyone here will ever have! Everyone put their pants on the same way you do and are able to make the same mistake...just that those above you have already made enough mistakes to learn from them...hopefully.
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SSG Kenneth Lanning
Rank usually equals experience, but doesn't necessarily equal knowledge. Every CSM and GEN out there could learn something about the mission or task at hand from a PVT-it just all depends on the approach used and the circustmance. I never consider the one with the most stripes to be the one in charge; I'd rather the one that knows what the *&^% is really happening...NCO's and officers are just here to make sure it's legal, moral, and safe so the junior enlisted can handle business. Just my 2 cents worth.
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I concur with your point. I offer this in retort. We all fight or have fought for our freedoms. Speech, expression and all that we defend. I for one am happy to have the forum to express my perspective, share stories and get different insights.
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