Posted on Apr 29, 2020
As a PSGT, how do I handle a situation if one of my NCOs thinks a soldier needing a shaving profile needs to get out of the Army?
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Hello everyone I just want opinions on this situation. So today at work I had an Soldier (PFC) come into my office and say he needed to talk to me in private, so of course I stepped aside with him and asked him what was wrong, so this Soldier told me that his squad leader which is an E-5 told him that “ Soldiers that has an shaving profile/ needs a shaving profile doesn’t need to be in the Army/ needs to get out of the army” And yes this Soldier does have a shaving profile, so I told the Soldier I was going to handle the situation. (This is the 2nd time the NCO has said this by the way but I wasn’t in the company when it happened) So later that day I pulled the NCO aside and asked him did he say what the Soldier told me he replied with “ yes I did say it and that is how I feel” I told the nco not to say it again and that he can’t be saying things like that. Both of them are African Americans (just throwing that in before anyone questions it) so I want to know did I handle the situation correctly? Is it EO? And if this happens again how should I handle it ?
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I would have done the same thing. I also would have come armed with the regs and/or medical info about shaving profiles or had the young NCO do the research and get back with me to report the findings
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IMHO, you did right SFC (Join to see). All that young NCO is doing with those statements is creating hostility and toxic environments. And if they continue with those comments/statements....fire them. At least, that is what I'd do.
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SFC James J. Palmer IV aka "JP4" - Probably. And then get checked real fast, quick and in a mad hurry.
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SFC James J. Palmer IV aka "JP4" - PLUS.....now that I think about it.....this would result in a HUGE "Needs Improvement" check in the LEADS box of the NCOER
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I agree with JP SFC James J. Palmer IV aka "JP4". It is completely unprofessional for any NCO to berate a fellow soldier with their opinion. NCOs have three primary duties: accomplish the mission, train and care for their charges (personnel), and care for and maintain military property. None of those include sharing your opinion on how something should be. This kind of behavior is why many young soldiers become discouraged and leave the military.
COL Mikel J. Burroughs LTC Stephen F. SFC Joe S. Davis Jr., MSM, DSL Lt Col John (Jack) Christensen SPC Woody Bullard CPL Dave Hoover CW5 Jack Cardwell Lt Col Charlie Brown Col Carl Whicker SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth SPC Margaret Higgins LTC Greg Henning Maj William W. 'Bill' Price SP5 Mark Kuzinski SGT John " Mac " McConnell LTC Wayne Brandon PO1 William "Chip" Nagel SPC Douglas Bolton PVT Mark Zehner
COL Mikel J. Burroughs LTC Stephen F. SFC Joe S. Davis Jr., MSM, DSL Lt Col John (Jack) Christensen SPC Woody Bullard CPL Dave Hoover CW5 Jack Cardwell Lt Col Charlie Brown Col Carl Whicker SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth SPC Margaret Higgins LTC Greg Henning Maj William W. 'Bill' Price SP5 Mark Kuzinski SGT John " Mac " McConnell LTC Wayne Brandon PO1 William "Chip" Nagel SPC Douglas Bolton PVT Mark Zehner
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Lt Col John (Jack) Christensen
Totally agree. When I was in, and also a commander, shaving waivers were a medical condition. Don't know if that's still the situation, but frankly any NCO who disagrees with the pronouncements of a trained physician probably doesn't belong in the Army.
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