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Sharia Law which is the Law of Islam is complete counter indicative of the United States Constitution, SEE BELOW:
Sharia law is the law of Islam. The Sharia (also spelled Shariah or Shari'a) law is cast from the actions and words of Muhammad, which are called "Sunnah," and the Quran, which he authored.
The Sharia law itself cannot be altered, but the interpretation of the Sharia law, called "figh," by imams is given some leeway.
As a legal system, the Sharia law covers a very wide range of topics. While other legal codes deal primarily with public behavior, Sharia law covers public behavior, private behavior and private beliefs. Of all legal systems in the world today, Islam's Sharia law is the most intrusive and strict, especially against women.
According to the Sharia law:
• Theft is punishable by amputation of the right hand (above).
• Criticizing or denying any part of the Quran is punishable by death.
• Criticizing or denying Muhammad is a prophet is punishable by death.
• Criticizing or denying Allah, the moon god of Islam is punishable by death.
• A Muslim who becomes a non-Muslim is punishable by death.
• A non-Muslim who leads a Muslim away from Islam is punishable by death.
• A non-Muslim man who marries a Muslim woman is punishable by death.
• A man can marry an infant girl and consummate the marriage when she is 9 years old.
• Girls' clitoris should be cut (per Muhammad's words in Book 41, Kitab Al-Adab, Hadith 5251).
• A woman can have 1 husband, but a man can have up to 4 wives; Muhammad can have more.
• A man can unilaterally divorce his wife but a woman needs her husband's consent to divorce.
• A man can beat his wife for insubordination.
• Testimonies of four male witnesses are required to prove rape against a woman.
• A woman who has been raped cannot testify in court against her rapist(s).
• A woman's testimony in court, allowed only in property cases, carries half the weight of a man's.
• A female heir inherits half of what a male heir inherits.
• A woman cannot drive a car, as it leads to fitnah (upheaval).
• A woman cannot speak alone to a man who is not her husband or relative.
• Meat to be eaten must come from animals that have been sacrificed to Allah - i.e., be Halal.
• Muslims should engage in Taqiyya and lie to non-Muslims to advance Islam.
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The thing to remember, is that Judaism and Christianity *also* have old laws on their books that we would find incompatible with modern society. Punishments for violating the Sabbath; wearing clothing of mixed materials (ie, cotton and wool together); even early Jews and Christians were able to own slaves and keep multiple wives and concubines. The only difference is that while Jews and Christians mostly just treat those old laws as interesting cultural relics, modern Shariah extremists want this stuff to be enacted *now*.

What is important to remember is that a lot of Muslims are *not* Shariah extremists. It appears to be that the current "Islamic State", Daesh, has reached its peak and is not gaining new territory by the leaps and bounds it was a year ago. A lot of people who joined are quitting, slipping away and coming back with tales of corruption and abuse. People living under Shariah law seem to mostly end up disenchanted with it.

Shariah law is definitely incompatible with American values, but it would be wrong to presume every Muslim wants it. Those that do, well, we're just going to have to disappoint them.
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CPT Ahmed Faried http://www.wnd.com/2015/07/big-list-of-muslim-terror-attacks-in-u-s-since-911/

Sept. 11, 2001 – Nineteen al-Qaida terrorists hijacked four American passenger planes in a coordinated attack on U.S. soil. Nearly 200 Americans were murdered by the terrorists who hijacked American Airlines Flight 77 and flew it into the Pentagon, collapsing its western side. Meanwhile, two other planes, American Airlines Flight 11 and United Airlines Flight 175, were flown into the North and South towers of the World Trade Center in New York City. Both 110-story towers collapsed, killing 2,752 people. A fourth plane, United Airlines Flight 93, was flown by terrorists diverting the flight to Washington, D.C. However, passengers fought the hijackers, and the plane crashed in a field near Shanksville, Pennsylvania, killing 40 passengers.

Feb. 16, 2002 – Muslim snipers Lee Boyd Malvo and John Allen Muhammad kill Keenya Cook in Tacoma, Washington. The snipers would kill 21 more people in a crime wave that stretched from coast to coast.

March 19, 2002 – Jerry Ray Taylor, 60, is shot by snipers Lee Boyd Malvo and John Allen Muhammad at a Tucson, Arizona, golf course.

Sept. 5, 2002 – Paul J. LaRuffa, 55, is shot and wounded by snipers Lee Boyd Malvo and John Allen Muhammad in Clinton, Maryland, in the parking lot of his restaurant.

Sept. 14, 2002 – Muslim snipers Lee Boyd Malvo and John Allen Muhammad wound Rupinder “Benny” Oberoi, 22, outside a liquor store in Silver Spring, Maryland.

Sept. 15, 2002 – Snipers Lee Boyd Malvo and John Allen Muhammad would Muhammad Rashid, 32, outside a liquor store in Brandywine, Maryland.

Sept. 21, 2002 – Snipers Lee Boyd Malvo and John Allen Muhammad kill Million A. Woldemariam, 41, outside an Atlanta, Georgia, liquor store. Snipers also kill Claudine Lee Parker, 52, outside a liquor store in Montgomery, Alabama. The snipers shot Kellie Adams, 24, in the neck as she approached a liquor store in Montgomery, Alabama, where she worked.

Sept. 23, 2002 – Snipers kill Hong Im Ballenger, 45, outside a beauty store in Baton Rouge, Louisiana. They also kill James D. Martin, 55, outside a supermarket in Wheaton, Louisiana.

Oct. 3, 2002 – Snipers kill James L “Sonny” Buchanan, 39, while he mows a lawn near a car dealership in White Flint, Maryland. Premkumar A. Walekar, 54, is murdered while he pumps gas at a station in Aspen Hill, Maryland. The snipers kill Sarah Ramos, 34, as she sat outside a shopping center in Silver Spring, Maryland. They also murder Lori Lewis Rivera, 25, while she vacuums her car at a Shell gas station in Kensington, Maryland. While she attempts to cross a street in Northwest Washington, Pascal Charlot, 72, is shot and killed by the snipers.

Oct. 4, 2002 – Snipers wound Caroline Seawell, 43, as loads her car with her purchases in a Fredericksburg, Virginia, store parking lot.

Oct. 7, 2002 – Snipers wound 13-year-old Iran Brown outside a Nejamin Tasker Middle School in Bowie, Maryland.

Oct. 9, 2002 – Snipers kill Vietnam veteran Dean H. Meyers, 53, while he pumps gas in Manassas, Virginia.

Oct. 11, 2002 – Snipers kill Kenneth H. Bridges, 53, as he pumped gas at a station near Massaponax, Virginia.

Oct. 14, 2002 – Snipers kill Linda Franklin, 47, in a Home Depot parking lot in Falls Church, Virginia.

Oct. 19, 2002 – Snipers wound Jeffrey Hopper, 37, while he walks with his wife in a restaurant parking lot in Ashland, Virginia.

Oct. 22, 2002 – Snipers kill Conrad E. Johnson, 35, a bus driver standing in the doorway of his bus in Aspen Hill, Maryland.

Aug., 6, 2003 – The Muslim son of a Saudi millionaire, Mohammed Ali Alayed, 23, slashes the throat of an estranged Jewish friend, Ariel Sellouk, killing and nearly decapitating the man in Houston, Texas.

Dec. 2, 2003 – A Jewish man, Joseph Applebaum, suffers from a swelling of the stomach that is easily diagnosed and treated. He was identified as Jewish on the front of his medical chart. But instead of receiving treatment, he is left to die by his Muslim doctor.

April 15, 2004 – Fearing that his brother had molested his wife and daughter, Muslim man Ismail Peltek killed his wife by bludgeoning her on the head with a hammer and attacked his 22- and 4-year-old daughters with a knife. Peltek, 41, told investigators, “I was afraid that my family’s honor was taken.” He said he attacked his 4-year-old because he worried that she had been “sullied” by a gynecological exam, according to the Rochester Democrat and Chronicle, which reported that both daughters suffered fractured skulls. Investigators asked him, “if you had the opportunity to kill the family again, would you?” Peltek replied, “My female family, yes. My male family, no.”

January 2005 – Somali immigrant Mustafa Mohamed, 30, slashes and injures six people at a retirement home in Alexandria, Virginia. One resident required 200 stitches. Another suffered a broken neck. A judge rules Mohamed is not guilty by reason of insanity.

March 3, 2006 – Mohammed Reza Taheri-azar, an Iranian-American seeking to “avenge the deaths of Muslims worldwide” and “punish” the U.S. government, intentionally runs down and injures nine people with his sport utility vehicle on the campus of the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. He pleaded guilty to nine counts of attempted first-degree murder and was sentenced to 33 years in prison.

June 16, 2006 – A 62-year-old Jewish man, Paul Schrum, who had gone to the movies to see “X-Men: The Last Stand” in a heavily Jewish area near Baltimore, Maryland, is shot by Muslim gunman Mujtaba Rabbani Jabbar, 24. Jabbar shot Schrum three times in the upper body, walked into the lobby, placed his gun on a counter and waited for police.

June 25, 2006 – Michael Julius Ford, a 22-year-old convert to Islam, uses a long-barrel handgun to shoot four co-workers and a police officer at a Denver, Colorado, Safeway, claiming the attack was “Allah’s choice.” One person died in the shooting spree. When Ford fired at police, he was shot and killed.

July 28, 2006 – Muslim Pakistani man Naveed Afzal Haq shot six women, killing one, at the Jewish Federation of Greater Seattle building in Seattle, Washington. Haq grabbed a 14-year-old girl and used her as a hostage during the attack. Officials classified the attack as a “hate crime” rather than terrorism.

Jan. 1, 2008 – Egyptian-born cab driver Yaser Said shoots and kills his two daughters in Irving, Texas, because they were dating non-Muslim boys. The daughters had run away from home a week earlier, fearing their father would kill them.

July 6, 2008 – Muslim Pakistani man Chaudry Rashid, 56, strangled his 25-year-old daughter in Jonesboro, Georgia, after she said she wanted out of an arranged marriage. Police said the daughter, Sandela Kanwal, had argued with her father about the arrangement of her marriage to a man in Chicago. An officer explained, “At some point during the altercation, he ended up killing his daughter.”

Feb. 12, 2009 – Pakistani-American Muzzammil Syed Hassan was the CEO of the first American Muslim TV network broadcast in English, Bridge TV. Hassan beheaded his estranged wife, Aasiya Zubair, after she filed for divorce. Her body was found at the TV station. When he was arrested, he said he “felt an incredible amount of relief” after he killed the woman.

April 12, 2009 – Upon learning that they had patronized a strip club, a Muslim man shoots and kills his brother-in-law and another man in Phoenix, Arizona.

June 1, 2009 – In a drive-by shooting, Abdulhakim Mujahid Muhammad – a convert to Islam who had traveled to Yemen and was deported to the U.S. for overstaying his visa – opened fire on U.S. soldiers standing in front of a Little Rock, Arkansas, recruiting office. Muhammad killed one private and injured another. When he was arrested Muhammad explained that he had planned to kill as many soldiers as possible and was given the assignment by Al-Qaeda in the Arab Peninsula.

November 2009 – Iraq-born Muslim man Faleh Hassan Almaleki, 48, intentionally hit his daughter with his car and killed her because she had become “too Westernized.” He also attacked the mother of the girl’s boyfriend. Police said, “It occurred because [of] her not following traditional family values. He felt she was becoming too westernized, and he didn’t like that.” His daughter had backed out of an arranged marriage.

Nov. 5, 2009 – Muslim gunman Nidal Malik Hassan, an Army psychiatrist, fatally shoots 13 people and wounds 30 others at Fort Hood, Texas.

Dec. 4, 2009 – A Muslim graduate student from Saudi Arabia, Abdulsalam S. al-Zahrani, stabbed his non-Muslim Islamic studies professor, Richard T. Antoun, to death to avenge “persecuted” Muslims. One of his roommates said, “He was all the time shouting in Arabic, shouting threats, insulting his country for no reason.”

April 14, 2010 – A Muslim convert, James A. Larry, 33, became angry that his family would not convert to Islam and shot his mother, pregnant wife, infant son and two nieces in Marquette Park, Illinois. He pleaded guilty to multiple counts of murder, attempted murder and the intentional homicide of an unborn child. “He was upset at his wife and their family — he felt disrespected that they would not join his religion,” Assistant State’s Attorney Jim McKay said. “It didn’t matter if they were young or old, pregnant or not. He wanted them dead.” Larry also shot his 13-year-old nephew in the face, but the boy survived. When the man was arrested, he told officers Allah told him to kill his family, according to court records. According to a police report, he said, “I wish I had more bullets. I wish I had more bullets.”

April 30, 2011 – Rahim Abdul Alfetlawi, 46, shot his step-daughter in the head at point-blank range in Warren, Michigan, after she refused to strictly adhere to Muslim customs. The family claimed the motive was not religion.

Sept. 11, 2011 – Three Jewish men are discovered in Waltham, Massachusetts, with their throats slit from ear to ear and nearly decapitated. Authorities believed the murders were not random, and thousands of dollars in cash and marijuana were left at the scene. According to reports, authorities believe Boston Marathon bombers Tamerlan Tsarnaev and his younger brother, both Muslims, may have been responsible for the triple homicide.

Jan. 15, 2012 – A Jordanian Muslim man, Ali Mahwood-Awad Irsan, 57, gunned down Iranian medical student, Gelareh Bagherzadeh, a friend of his daughter and a Christian convert who widely denounced Islam. He later killed his Christian son-in-law after his daughter married him without permission. Assistant Harris County District Attorney Tammy Thomas told a district judge, “He said, ‘I killed that b–ch, and you’re next. No one insults my honor as a Muslim and gets away with it.’”

Feb. 7, 2013 – Yusuf Ibrahim, 28, shot two Coptic Christians to death and beheaded them in Buena Vista, New Jersey. He also removed their hands before burying their bodies in the backyard of an abandoned house. Quran 8:12 states, “When thy Lord was revealing to the angels, ‘I am with you; so confirm the believers. I shall cast into the unbelievers’ hearts terror; so smite above the necks, and smite every finger of them!”

March 31, 2013 – Reshad Riddle walked into an Ashtabula, Ohio, church and fatally shot his father after an Easter service. After the shooting, witnesses say, walked through the church holding the gun and shouted that the slaughter was “the will of Allah. This is the will of God.”

April 15, 2013 – Muslim Chechen brothers Dzhokhar Tsarnaev and Tamerlan Tsarnaev detonate two pressure cooker bombs during the Boston Marathon, killing three people and injuring an estimated 264 others. After the bombing, they killed an MIT policeman, stole an SUV and exchanged gunfire with police. Tamerlan was shot and his brother drove over him with the stolen SUV. Tamerlan was pronounced dead at the scene. After a manhunt, police found Dzhokhar hiding in a boat in a man’s backyard. Dzokhar has been sentenced to death.

Aug. 4, 2013 – A Muslim convert, Daymond Agnew, 34, went to an Ace Hardware store on a “mission from Allah to help people” before he fatally stabbed employee Daniel Joseph Stone 17 times.

March 6, 2014 – Registered sex offender James Cosby, 46, is accused of bludgeoning his lesbian daughter to death and shooting her lover in Port Bolivar, Texas. Police believe he then dumped the bodies near a ferry gate. In his bedroom, Cosby had the Quran open to a page that says homosexuality is a sin, family advocate Quanell X told KHOU-TV. “It’s quite unfortunate but he had a real, real warped understanding, in my opinion, of the religion of Islam and its position on the gay lifestyle and what one should do,” Quanell X said.

April 27, 2014 – A 30-year-old Muslim man, Ali Muhammad Brown, is accused of shooting to death two men in Seattle and a man in New Jersey. According to local reports, he told police the killings were “vengeance” for U.S. actions in the Mideast. According to court documents, he said they were “just kills” and that he was “just doing my small part” as a self-styled jihadist.

Sept. 25, 2014 – Alton Nolen is accused of beheading a woman in Moore, Oklahoma. Co-workers reported that Nolen had been trying to convert them to Islam. Nolen reportedly used “some Arabic terms” during his attack and had an interest in beheadings. Nolen told a judge, “I’m Muslim. My question is, do you have any Muslims that can represent me as a Muslim?”

May 3, 2015 – In Garland, Texas, Pamela Geller, along with her group the American Freedom Defense Initiative, hosted a “Draw Muhammad” event. Elton Simpson and Nadir Soofi of Phoenix responded to a call to “avenge the prophet” and traveled to Garland, where they were shot and killed by a security guard after opening fire in an apparent attempt to get into the building. The guard was wounded in the attack. Islamic radicals have since called for Geller’s head, and vow to kill anyone who “blasphemes” Muhammad.

July 16, 2015 – Four U.S. Marines have been shot dead in an attack, reportedly by a lone Islamic gunman, on U.S. Navy facilities in Chattanooga, Tennessee. Chattanooga Mayor Andy Berke said five people died in all, including the gunman. Two law enforcement sources told CBS News that the shooting suspect was identified as Muhammad Youssef Abdulazeez, 24. Abdulazeez was born in Kuwait and emigrated to the U.S. where he reportedly became a naturalized U.S. citizen.

The FBI is investigating two crime scenes, a Navy recruiting center at a strip mall where the first shots were fired, and a Navy reserve center about 7 miles away. More than 100 rounds were reportedly fired in a shootout with police at the recruitment center parking lot. The shooter then drove to the Navy reserve center and started shooting Marines, four of whom were killed. The Marines would not have been armed at a reserve Navy installation or at a recruitment center, both of which were described as “soft targets.”

The four Marines who were fatally shot reportedly were attacked at the Navy Reserve Center on Amnicola Highway. A police officer at the first location was injured and was being treated at a local hospital for a gunshot wound to the ankle. “We are conducting this as an act of domestic terrorism,” said Bill Killian, U.S. Attorney for Tennessee at a 3 p.m. press conference. He came back to the podium 15 minutes later and backtracked, telling reporters “I would encourage you not to get caught up in labels…whether it was an act of terrorism or a crime.”

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Not sure I understand what you're trying to show me. I never said that all Muslims were good guys, and I never said that there was no Muslim terror in the USA. There certainly is. I also said that, yes, Shariah Law is against American principles.

All I said was that there are obscure laws of the Bible that Jews and Christians could claim as well, and that many non-Muslims who claim to live according to "Biblical Principles" are also being very selective about which "principles" they choose to follow, and are ignoring others.

As far as terrorist attacks in the United States, there are also anti-government and right-wing militias that have a considerable ideologically-motivated death toll, and left-wing environmental terror attacks-- not as much death toll but massive property damage that ends up being counter-productive to their stated claims. There is a whole city in southern Utah owned and run by the FLDS Church where that cult terrorizes the residents and encourages child rape based on what they think are divine guidance from religious figures. We can find a lot of people in the US doing crappy things claiming religious principles if we look around enough.
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SSG (Join to see) - It's just SGT LOL's and a few others' default status. The concept of good decent Muslims is not something acceptable or believable to them. So any post that highlights such reality they offer a counterpost.
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The peaceful majority are irrelevant. The Jihad will continue indefinitely or until Islam and Sharia Law are imposed in all.
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Sure worldnetdaily is a credible source..
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CPT Ahmed Faried A poll commissioned in May 2015 by the Center for Security Policy showed that 51 percent of American Muslims preferred that they should have their own Shariah courts outside of the legal system ruled by the U.S. Constitution. And nearly a quarter believed the use of violent jihad was justified in establishing Shariah.

"That would translate into roughly 300,000 Muslims living in the United States who believe that Shariah is 'The Muslim God Allah's law that Muslims must follow and impose worldwide by Jihad,'" writes Frank Gaffney Jr., president of the Center for Security Policy.
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I am a conservative and a member of the GOP, and believe it is the right party with the right course for the USA.
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Yes, SSG Ryan R., since for Islam to be complete the government must adhere to Islamic principles as laid out in the Koran. The Freedom to worship freely as laid out in Bill of Rights specifically is in direct opposition to what Islam stand for.
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This is not a rehash of the argument that arose in the 1960 election: "Should a Catholic be elected President of the United States?" I remember that one well. That was my random topic in a contest of extemporaneous speaking at American University in Washington, D.C. A professor who also happened to be a nun was the judge of the event. I spoke for almost all of my three minutes spouting every invective and pejorative I had ever heard (my father hated Catholics with an unbounded passion) while the nun fairly lit up the room with the color rising in her face. Then I stopped, smiled, and concluded, "...or so I've heard." Yes, there were many who feared that the Pope would have an undue influence on a Catholic President. Or that the Catholic disdain for all other Christian groups would make them second class citizens (this was prior to Vatican II). But essentially, there was never any question of Kennedy's patriotism (he served with distinction in WWII) and his love of America. The Islamic faith is intolerant of Western philosophy and culture in all its variations and seeks to replace them with their own (for example, Muslims living in Germany - not those involved in terrorism - want to eliminate Oktober Fest). Shari'a Law is contrary not only to cultural aspects of Western civilization but also to civil as well as criminal codes, and Muslims are commanded by Allah and his prophet Mohammed to replace all with Shari'a. No, it's not quite the same as Catholics struggling to accept American abortion laws while their church preaches against it. Western Civilization has evolved with the ages while Islam remains rooted in the Stone Age. Those who argue that Muslims have contributed greatly to the arts and sciences tend to ignore the fact that those contributions came from the Persians who practiced a form of Islam that is greatly reviled among the majority of Muslims. The Golden Age of Islam was limited to a couple of centuries among the Shiites. None of this would concern me except that the philosophy of multiculturalism that is prevalent among America's intelligentsia preaches that all human institutions are equal and should be tolerated. Sadly, they fail to recognize that their tolerance is not reciprocated from the Muslim community...
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CPT Jack Durish Well said. You make some excellent points, which may get folks thinking.
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Nicely said
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1SG (Join to see) while it seems like a simple straight forward question, it is neither. From a constitutional standpoint, yes it is. I say that because the constitution guarantees the right to freely worship: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances." So by that alone, yes Islam is compatible with the US Constitution, or more correctly worded, the US Constitution is compatible with Islam.

That is also what makes it a convoluted issue. The Constitution guarantees freedoms to all Americans. This means that a religious tenet that involves the eradication of other beliefs defies the Constitution. In a CIVILIZED society, the tenets pertaining to elimination of alternative beliefs are tempered so as not to interfere with individual rights. Strict Sharia Law as stated infringes on women's rights, the rights of non Muslims, human rights, and (for a bit of humor) bacon lovers everywhere. Furthermore it is complicated by the tenet that Sharia Law cannot be altered. So unless American Imams wish to interpret that Sharia Law can only be applied within the Muslim community, then the Sharia Law is not compatible with the US Constitution.

So my answer to the question is Islam is compatible with the US Constitution, but Sharia Law is not compatible with the US Constitution. The fact that it allows for human rights violations, crimes against children, and the subjugation of women (which when asked a local Imam inferred that Islam puts women on a pedestal) makes it something that is incompatible with humanity, let alone the US Constitution. That being said if a Islam wishes to be a part of American culture, instead of telling all people that they must be Muslims and follow Sharia, Islam needs to evolve beyond out dated tenets. Pope Francis illustrates this. He is little by little dragging the Roman Catholic Church kicking and screaming into modern times. He has made getting an annulment simpler so divorced Catholics are not prevented (spiritually) from remarrying. He has stated in regards to homosexuality "Who am I to judge." He has washed the feet of prison inmates. He has gone and walked among the people (even in a dangerous neighborhood in Rio). He is leading by example, and making changes with the times to keep the church relevant to the next generation. If Islam could grow in this way, rather than living in the medieval ages, it would be both less susceptible to radicalization and more acceptable to the cultures they intermingle with.

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PO3 Steven Sherrill Well, Excellent Rant. Thanks for your input on this topic.
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I'll be generic, but no religious law can come before the laws of the country for an elected president. Separation of church and state is critical to continued religious freedom. Islam is the current focus, but the same can be said for just about any relgion when taken to extreme. Does this mean a Muslim could never be president? It depends on how you define Muslim and Islam. Again the same could be said for Christianity. There are sects of Christians who also could not uphold the constitution.

Dr. Carson's comments were extremely inflammatory and he did a poor job of communicating what he meant, but he's also been repeatedly taken out of context so that others can prove a point. This has been happening all election on both sides. Bernie Sanders and Jeb Bush have also been victims of a similar tactic (albeit not with Islam).

The problem is that we lump Islam into one sack right now that it doesn't fit in. It's convenient for us to do partly out of ignorance, partly out of fear. However, marginalizing an entire religion (a massive one) is idiotic and counter-productive, not to mention illegal in the US and most of Europe.
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LCDR (Join to see)Well spoken, thanks for your comments.
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"The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the members of the several state legislatures, and all executive and judicial officers, both of the United States and of the several states, shall be bound by oath or affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States" His comments sure seem to spit on Article 6 of the US Constitution.
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I doubt many of our politicians have actually read all 4 pages of the Constitution in a single sitting, nor could they tell you what Articles 4+ pertain to.
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Nope, not if you actually listened to his response. Pretty sure there is no spitting on anything. Just miss understandings and folks not seeing outside the box. Just looking at the box and happy to see a Box and nothing else.
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Not sure who they polled, but my wife (Indonesian Muslim) says no.
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Probably the Village Idiots that watch FOX Maj William Gambrell.
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People need to understand the difference between Islam and what you see on TV and ISIS. The practices of Islam don't match what you see in the middle east now. Those are not the teachings of Islam. They are the teachings of the corruption in the Middle East.
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PVT James Strait - It's called influence and corruption.
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PVT James Strait - That so called playbook has nothing to do with Islam.
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SSG Ryan Rodney - Most Islamic people are good people. The leadership and corruption in the middle east is creating the disturbance in the Arab world. Don't assume all Muslims live in the middle east.
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PVT James Strait - Lol, I'm suing you, I am a Southern Baptist. I have friends from all kinds of religious beliefs, gay friends, atheist friends, heck I'll even be your friend. We can go fishing or whatever ( bring your own beer, I don't drink.) How's that for a narrow minded Southern Baptist. Course I don't believe everything they believe. Oh well exceptions to every rule I guess, lol Nice first name by the way.
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I don't know...do you think not allowing women to drive, executing homosexuals and making woman walk 4 paces behind men is supported by the Constitution?
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SMSgt Tony Barnes - And I want you to know my brother in-law is in the Indonesian military as an officer and has been told to shoot anyone suspected of ISIS recruitment.
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Maj William Gambrell - I hope he gets the chance.
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SMSgt Tony Barnes - That's the difference between you and me....I hope it is never required.
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Maj William Gambrell - I hope it's not if ISIS is dismantled. But, I am a realist and if someone is recruiting for them...they deserve localized lead poisoning.
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