Posted on Jun 13, 2018
Can anyone explain if this guy I know is pretending to be a LTC?
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An old friend of mine randomly posted a photo of himself in OCP’s with LTC rank. He told everyone that he just joined the Army Rerserves. I asked him what unit, and he told me it’s the 101st Airborne. He has a BS in nursing. He’s 45 years old. He’s not on ako or on enterprise. My question is, does this story smell fishy?
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Ma'am, I don't think you need us to tell you that he's full of shit. But if you do: he's full of shit.
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LCDR (Join to see)
I was going through Great Lakes Pass & ID and there was a CAPT in the Medical Corps who availed himself of head of line privilege, He politely stepping in front of me. As we waited he told me he was 75 years old, and been retired from the Navy for quite a few years, when they Navy asked him whether he wanted to come back on active duty. He definitely had a current CAC - and looked like he was probably 75. So it does happen, but remember he’d already done 20+ year service.
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CPT Jerry Lucas
CW4 William Kessinger - A much older friend of mine was an orthopedic surgeon (he was prior service enlisted) and he was asked if he would re-join the Army as a Lt. Col. My friend replied that he would only come back as a brigadier general, or higher. At that time, my friend was earning over $200k per year.Needless to say, thre was no agreement reached.
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Maj Dale Smith
Ran into a Colonel flight surgeon in Plattsburgh, NY in 1991. He was backfilling docs that had been forward deployed for Desert Storm. He had a class A uniform on and one of his medals was a WWII victory medal. He was compelled to come back on Active duty and leave an OBGYN practice in Santa Monica, CA. He too, was about 75 at the time.
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SSG Phillip Hoffeld
Maj Dale Smith - When I was thinking of changing to Physician's Assistant in the early 90's, I was told that there was NO forceable retirement in the Medical Corps. You can be recalled at any time and as long as your mental faculties are in tact, you can be recalled at any age. I sat with a two-star at Ft Bliss who must've been in his late 70's to early 80's.
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I am retired at Campbell have him tell you where he works and I can stop over and chat.
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A1C Michael Beal
Diane Frazier - When one person sullies the repitation of Armed Forces, they sully the reputation of everyone who served as well, so this isn't one of those "What are you up to?" things. Defending against Stolen Valor is protecting the integrity and reputations of those who served and those still serving. The parallel in the corporate world are the social media policies barring individuals from making disparaging comments about their employer. To parallel the corporate world to a case of Stolen Valor, it's someone claiming to represent a company they've never worked for; something you would call a scam.
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SP6 Peter Kreutzfeldt
does it all really matter. It's not taking anything out of my pocket. Hell, there are people out there claiming to be in direct communication with God. There are people in the House of Representatives claiming to have the best interest of the people in mind. Let it go, not worth it.
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Sounds like BS to me. Too many red flags.
-Just joined and is an O-5?
-Reservist in 101st (an AD unit)?
-LTC with only a BS?
-Not on AKO or Enterprise?
Any one of those might not necessarily be problematic. Any combination of those would bring suspicion. All of those collectively signal a potential fake.
-Just joined and is an O-5?
-Reservist in 101st (an AD unit)?
-LTC with only a BS?
-Not on AKO or Enterprise?
Any one of those might not necessarily be problematic. Any combination of those would bring suspicion. All of those collectively signal a potential fake.
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LTC James McElreath
0: LTC Gary Earls] - I too had the same experience. I was on AD 5yrs and ETS'd. I went straight to the Army Reserve. I stayed in USAR and took ROTC a couple years and I requested the Guaranteed Reserve and made a career in the Reserves, went up the ranks but promotions as a MS Officer/Hospital Administrator After making LTC I stayed for a while and retired June 2010.
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Lt Col Paul Maxwell
Extremely unlikely
I was army nurse corps. Many nurses make it to LTC, and very common in reserves. But to join up with a BSN and no military prior service, near ZERO credibility for direct Commission to LTC. Also very weird to state membership in Active Duty 101st Airborne. Ask him when he went to airborne school? If his story included a request for financial assistance, because his pay hasn’t started yet or similar nonsense... BLOCK HIM AND move on immediately. It’s a scam, might not even actually be your friend, May be impersonation fraud.
I was army nurse corps. Many nurses make it to LTC, and very common in reserves. But to join up with a BSN and no military prior service, near ZERO credibility for direct Commission to LTC. Also very weird to state membership in Active Duty 101st Airborne. Ask him when he went to airborne school? If his story included a request for financial assistance, because his pay hasn’t started yet or similar nonsense... BLOCK HIM AND move on immediately. It’s a scam, might not even actually be your friend, May be impersonation fraud.
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Lt Col Paul Maxwell
LTC Gary Earls - But you didn’t direct commission in as a LTC with just a BSN... you went a much longer, steeper road... E1 to O5 is quite a climb. well done!
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CW2 Frank Trinkle
If he is IRR (Individual Ready Reserve) he very well be assigned to the 101st if called for deployment or training. The IRR folks are attached to Active Duty Units, not Reserve units, and only go active when training or deployed. I know this because I was IRR as a helicopter pilot after leaving active duty and for the first couple of years, I did recurrent training and flight requirements with Active Duty units (Who hated having to use their flight time for me! LOL). It's normal and that may be the case with this LTC.
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There a a ton of ways to check the story, try “very cool can I see your CAC card”.
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SPC (Join to see)
They have CAC cards for civilians too, don't they? I see that on the eBenefits website whenever I log in.
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LTC James McElreath
MSG David C,
As was stated several times that the guy if full of c...! Not worth worrying about. The guy is lying and full of BS.
Sgt Joe G,
was correct: The supposed LTC knows how to lie very well. I feel sorry for him, to be that lonely and loathsome that he has to make himself up to be more than he really is.
As was stated several times that the guy if full of c...! Not worth worrying about. The guy is lying and full of BS.
Sgt Joe G,
was correct: The supposed LTC knows how to lie very well. I feel sorry for him, to be that lonely and loathsome that he has to make himself up to be more than he really is.
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SrA Roy "Abby" Abernathy
SPC (Join to see) They do, but reservists would have their rank on their CAC
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SSG Phillip Hoffeld
SPC (Join to see) - Yes. We also have CACs. If he's a Reservist, it would say, LTC.
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SFC Wayne Theilen
Being verified doesn’t really mean a thing. I have friends on here. That were former soldiers of mine. I still can’t get verified for whatever reason
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He has a BS in nursing? More like a Doctorate of BSing.
Hint, the 101st is an active unit.
Hint, the 101st is an active unit.
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CW3 Walter Goerner
Most of the junior officers (O-3 and below) in the 101st....the Army for that matter....are reserve officers. It's the source of their commission. Even West Point graduates that used to be all were commissioned regular Army, aren't all regular Army commissions. Some are now given reserve commissions but all have active duty requirements to active duty units. Do you think that ROTC graduates are given regular Army commissions when they graduate college? It's the source of commission, not the unit. You have to be selected by a regular Army board to change your commission status from Reserve to Regular.
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Sounds like an idiot. 101 isn't a reserve unit. No one, and I mean no one, enters the military at any grade above O3. I'm pretty sure that 45 is a few years older than the limit for a commissioned officer to even get into the military. Unless he has been in forever and maybe deployed under the 101, he's full of shit.
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CPL Joseph Elinger
LTC Kevin B.
Nurse Anesthetist / Anesthesiologist, or Nurse Practitioner (in a specialized field of medicine)??
Nurse Anesthetist / Anesthesiologist, or Nurse Practitioner (in a specialized field of medicine)??
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LTC (Join to see)
Not true. AMMED has entered as high as O6. Granted, he was a 60 year old, extremely accomplished orthopedic surgeon who came in at the height of OIF and OEF when his specialty was sorely needed. I know some who have come in at O4. So, it can happen, but probably never in combat arms.
Also, no way in Hades does a 45 year old nurse come in at O5. I commissioned O3 with a PhD in psychology and almost 20 years clinical practice in a “critical wartime shortage” specialty. Call that poser out on his bs.
Also, no way in Hades does a 45 year old nurse come in at O5. I commissioned O3 with a PhD in psychology and almost 20 years clinical practice in a “critical wartime shortage” specialty. Call that poser out on his bs.
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Yes. That said, Amedd does give advanced rank to older doctors who join. I've read several articles about 45-55 year old docs coming in as MAJs or LTCs.
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LCDR Robert Turcic
As a former retired 29 year Navy Mustang Officer, I agree with CPT McElroy. On the Navy side, I have not seen restrictions in age to the medical staff officers. It is based on their level of education and position. The are O3/LT if they have their Doctorate and com straight in, including medical school. Masters Level they come as LTJG/O2, and Bachelors as ENS/O1. Here's the kicker though...if they are a seasoned doctor in a major specialty like a surgeon, Cardiologist, etc. they c ok me in as either LCDR/O4 or as an O5/CDR...I've seen a handful throughout my career. We have one major outlier though. If you were a Doctor and the Hospital Administrator, you come in as a full bird Navy Captain (O6). I have only seen this once in my entire career. Medical Staff Corps Officers are different and their training is entirely different than the rest of the Enlisted and Officer corps. They are very unorthodox because their primary job is to treat and save personnel over traditional leadership. Although this person could be legitimate, a BS level nurse begs the question of the level of rank (where they should produce a CAC card regardless). The other flag raised is the 101st AB. My niece was in the 101st, active duty, and met her husband there. I'm not aware that reserve medical might be doing weekend warrior in an AD unit, or their 2 weeks, so there are questions to ask. I've seen AD at the O4 level go into the reserves and continue all the time. I wonder if this might be the case? I've have in the past gotten reservists on active reserves duty for full time support, so there are some questions to ask before automatically expending your entire weapons load onto the person in question. It would be truly sad to have a stolen valor faker considering what many of us went through wearing the uniform.
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CPL Joseph Elinger
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I had a Civilian friend who was a tenured Nurse Anesthesiologist. Good money, high demand.
I had a Civilian friend who was a tenured Nurse Anesthesiologist. Good money, high demand.
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MAJ (Join to see)
CPL Joseph Elinger yes one of the best schools the Army has to offer as far as work in and outside the Army. I love retirement from active duty and working at a civilian hospital doing the exact same thing I did while active. Great pay and benefits.
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