Posted on Jan 31, 2015
Can Japan seek military retribution after the latest beheading of their citizens at the hands of ISIS?
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Japan "reinterpreted" their Constitution last July which essentially allows them widen their interpretation of "collective self-defense." Now, instead of just defending themself from direct attack, they can come to the aide of their allies. Will this allow them to act against ISIS along side America since their citizens have been murdered in Iraq?
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Edited 11 y ago
Posted 11 y ago
Responses: 19
SSG John Bacon
We haven't forgotten either SFC, It's just that we have our hands tied behind our backs with liberal red tape and ROE bow ties.
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LTC Scott O'Neil
Japan has a formidable "Defense Force" as per their constitution after WWII. They do not lack offensive capability but how should they react. Believe it or not Japan has its hands tied in offensive operations, unless it has to do with the defense of their homeland or its allies in the region. Having said that, they are in constant dispute over their land in the sea f Japan with China and North Korea and they really do not have a projection platform to send into the area to strike ISIS>
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I'm curious to know how the JSDF personnel feel about this. They signed up under the impression that they wouldn't be going anywhere outside of Japanese sovereign territory, and to now face the very real possibility of being ordered half a world away to fight an enemy that is not a conventional threat to their mainland... It's going to be a big transition in a lot of different ways for these guys.
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SGT (Join to see)
For the record it's not their adequacy or martial competency that I question, it's their will. Speaking honestly I don't know enough about their culture to have an educated discussion about much of this, I only question what I do as it's such a huge shift in world outlook for them. I question whether these are guys that want to fight no matter where that fight happens to be or whether they signed up purely to defend their homeland. If the latter then will they be given the option to decline deployment orders? SFC Mark Merino CPT Michael Barden SGM Mikel Dawson
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SFC Mark Merino
Japanese will is like American resolve. I'm glad they are our strong allies, besides, Hitomi is all the proof I need of Japanese "iron will!"...lol?
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COL Ted Mc
SGT (Bowling Green, KY); A rather crusty old friend of mine once said "Learning to fully understand the "Japanese Psyche" is simplicity itself - all you have to do is arrange for yourself and the last four generations of your forbearers to have been born Japanese and raised in Japan.".
Now if the sociopathic terrorists REALLY want to get themselves into a REAL "hurt locker" they can do that very simply by murdering a Gurkha.
Now if the sociopathic terrorists REALLY want to get themselves into a REAL "hurt locker" they can do that very simply by murdering a Gurkha.
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SFC Mark Merino
100% agree on both counts.Immediately remembered this story from 2011 COL Ted Mc
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-12854492
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-12854492
Gurkha who repelled Taliban attack gets bravery medal - BBC News
A Gurkha who single-handedly fought off an attack by at least a dozen Taliban insurgents is among 136 UK service personnel honoured for bravery.
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I cannot believe Japan would send anything other than a few advisers or a few companies at the most.
I worked with the Japanese Community in Dusseldorf the past 2 years, my training partner has a Japanese wife and I pick her/their brain. They are so very courteous, never show emotions and never decide anything other than with conscious thought.
Once the decision is made, they act with such a direct and meaningful manner, like a slow bulldozer, methodical and slow but taking everything with it, nothing stops them and their will is undying.
Japan has a problem, it has no natural resources and must import everything, therefore they must tread ever so lightly, not to mention if the upset the USA, our Navy may just block the cargo routs to the country for a few days, rendering them crippled.
Japan is a very, very proud country, you can bet they are up to something, maybe not today or tomorrow, or maybe we will not even hear about it, but they will get theirs...in my opinion.
If you would like to read more about Japan and the geopolitical situation and forecast for the next 95 years or so, you MUST read George Friedman, then next 100 Years, an incredible book, some parts of the book are a bit "out there" but overall an excellent read on the "world" and such situations.
http://www.amazon.com/The-Next-100-Years-Forecast/dp/ [login to see]
My humble opinion...Steady on,
Steven
I worked with the Japanese Community in Dusseldorf the past 2 years, my training partner has a Japanese wife and I pick her/their brain. They are so very courteous, never show emotions and never decide anything other than with conscious thought.
Once the decision is made, they act with such a direct and meaningful manner, like a slow bulldozer, methodical and slow but taking everything with it, nothing stops them and their will is undying.
Japan has a problem, it has no natural resources and must import everything, therefore they must tread ever so lightly, not to mention if the upset the USA, our Navy may just block the cargo routs to the country for a few days, rendering them crippled.
Japan is a very, very proud country, you can bet they are up to something, maybe not today or tomorrow, or maybe we will not even hear about it, but they will get theirs...in my opinion.
If you would like to read more about Japan and the geopolitical situation and forecast for the next 95 years or so, you MUST read George Friedman, then next 100 Years, an incredible book, some parts of the book are a bit "out there" but overall an excellent read on the "world" and such situations.
http://www.amazon.com/The-Next-100-Years-Forecast/dp/ [login to see]
My humble opinion...Steady on,
Steven
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There seems to be two questions that have to be asked and answered...
First, should we trust Japan to rearm themselves to have an expeditionary capability? Why not? We have allowed German that privilege. Are the Japanese any less trustworthy?
Second, should Japan once again take responsibility for their own defense? I think they better. They, like the rest of the world, have languished under the Pax Americana these many decades. Sadly, America appears to have lost the will as well as the ability to maintain it. Maybe it's time for the rest of the world to re-engage and defend themselves.
Yes, I admit that I've provided only half-answers. These questions require much greater thought otherwise we may find ourselves once again suffering the unintended consequences of our own short sightedness.
First, should we trust Japan to rearm themselves to have an expeditionary capability? Why not? We have allowed German that privilege. Are the Japanese any less trustworthy?
Second, should Japan once again take responsibility for their own defense? I think they better. They, like the rest of the world, have languished under the Pax Americana these many decades. Sadly, America appears to have lost the will as well as the ability to maintain it. Maybe it's time for the rest of the world to re-engage and defend themselves.
Yes, I admit that I've provided only half-answers. These questions require much greater thought otherwise we may find ourselves once again suffering the unintended consequences of our own short sightedness.
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With all respect to our Japanese friends, they have next to no expeditionary capability. They couldn't do much even if they were inclined.
I would suggest to them they take economic actions. They ought to be able to inflict some pain with that tool.
I would suggest to them they take economic actions. They ought to be able to inflict some pain with that tool.
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SFC Mark Merino
That's what is so wrong with the situation. They volunteered to pay $200M (instead of ransom) for economic aide and they still killed the poor guy.
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1SG (Join to see)
I'm talking about freezing the assets of IS and any who do business with them. Hit them where it hurts.
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As much as I would like to see this, it would be a political disaster for the Abe government. After being stationed on the mainland for over a year (near Hiroshima actually), I know the vast majority of the population is still very pacifist. There is a vocal far right wing that wants Japan to confront China, but I cannot see their population supporting a sustained fight against ISIS.
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SFC Mark Merino
Bummer. Would that much discord at least allow for a BN/BDE of ground forces to be attached to the US? I'm thinking some Sappers could really come in handy.
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