Posted on Apr 22, 2017
Can male soldiers wear lipstick, earrings and ripped clothes while off duty, but on post?
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Had an interesting moment where in a soldier had me direct dial his BN CMD while correcting him about him wearing black lipstick, earrings, finger jewlery and ripped pants.
The CMD informed me I needed to read the regulations, which I have done so.
As far as I've read and know, there has been no update that allows male soldiers to wear this off-duty while on post.
The CMD informed me I needed to read the regulations, which I have done so.
As far as I've read and know, there has been no update that allows male soldiers to wear this off-duty while on post.
DA Pam 670-1
Regulation
Army Regulations
NCOs
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Conduct unbecoming an officer?
Conduct unbecoming an enlisted?
Conduct unbecoming a man? (or a woman if slovenly torn clothing)
Conduct unbecoming a human being
Conduct unbecoming an enlisted?
Conduct unbecoming a man? (or a woman if slovenly torn clothing)
Conduct unbecoming a human being
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Did the Army run out of blankets? There should be a blanket party in that soldiers room, until that soldier decides to correct himself.
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Cpl Jeff N.
This was a no brainer back in the day. The beatings would have continued until his behavior was corrected. Liberty would have been secured, he would be cleaning the head for weeks on end. This is a leadership failure in the Army. You cannot possibly contemplate every possible thing some idiot might decide to wear. You have policy then you have judgment and interpretation.
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Why would a man want to wear lipstick, earrings and all the trapping of a woman? We have gotten to far in the ME generation. I want to be me, I feel like a 5 year old so I will be one today. This kind of crap is going to be the downfall of our nation. I can just hear my Dad now if he had seen something like this. This nation is contaminated with the policial correctiness and it will ruin us all. It in the top levels of the government down to small town level. There is another word for snow flake and we raising them by the ton. And i can't say it or write it.
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Even out of uniform they are still soldiers. Next time smoke his ass. Get his unit and notify his platoon sergeant so that he can smoke his ass. That shit is ridiculous. You might get away with it off post, but definitely not on post.
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Just an FYI for everyone reading this particular topic. As of May 2017 AR 670-1 allows males to wear earrings in civilian clothes when off duty. The May update to 670-1 changed a few major things that leaders may want to check on to prevent looking stupid infront of their Soldiers.
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SPC David Willis
Super important to stay up to date on reg changes, personally I think all changes should be made on the first of each new quarters month and a list should be posted in all company areas.
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As far as I am concerned this guy has signed a blank check payable to the American people for an amout up to and including his life....his sanity his limbs etc.
if he wants to wear an evening gown while not on duty he should be allowed to do so ....who is he hurting ? No one
Funny that i have seems guys like this in combat situations that were some of the bravest soldiers i have ever seen .
one saved my life ....
you never can tell who the real hero is until the shth fan
experiencing something like this first hand changes. everything ..causes a total shift in your previous beliefs and attitudes
if he wants to wear an evening gown while not on duty he should be allowed to do so ....who is he hurting ? No one
Funny that i have seems guys like this in combat situations that were some of the bravest soldiers i have ever seen .
one saved my life ....
you never can tell who the real hero is until the shth fan
experiencing something like this first hand changes. everything ..causes a total shift in your previous beliefs and attitudes
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Brad Miller
CPT Ted Coulter ROTFLMAO.
Is that the best you can do? Supposed to be a. Commissioned officer, a Leader of Men, and your best is 3rd grade level.
Is that the best you can do? Supposed to be a. Commissioned officer, a Leader of Men, and your best is 3rd grade level.
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Brad Miller
CPT Ted Coulter Awwww, my heart bleeds. Three times I have called you out, liar and thief, and three you have ducked and dodged. Get well she'd of you -- back to the rubbish yip that spawned you.
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CPT Ted Coulter
CPT Ted Coulter besides this site is for active duty reserves and vet.....you dont qualify
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I am so glad that I am out of the Army. This whole issue is ridiculous. NO!!! You can not , as a male, wear earrings on post. The Army is a time honored tradition of Soldiering and discipline,not bowing to every snowflake wanting to be different. Every day, it is just getting easier to get anything to become a fad. If you identify as something you weren't born as. Maybe your MAMA did not hold you enough and your uncle held you to much.
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MSgt Anne Slabinski
I remember one time going to a annual awards dinner on base (I was AD AF) and seeing a retired Chief in his mess dress and he had an earring in. It really bothered me back then. I always thought that even if you are retired, and were wearing military uniforms, you had to be in reg!
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SFC James Shanks
I'm not sure if it is a regulation, but in my opinion it should be. Something about honor, I think.
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I am not aware of any regulations forbidding off-duty male wear of makeup, finger jewelry (rings?) or ripped pants, but I am pretty sure that we are never allowed to wear earrings or any other piercing jewelry.
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MSG James Hughs
There are two levels of regulation....Branch and Local.... ....local regs and their enforcement .....you site branch when the the level you need to appreciate is Local..... I have been on post where the utility uniform could not be worn off post.....except by troops going directly home or to work....no stops.....while down the road under a different command troops were allowed to wear their uniform anywhere on or off post.....
What I am trying to impart to you....it does not matter what the Branch regs say if the local commander....for whatever reason....decides not to enforce them.... AND with the PC world we live in....and the sensitivity to alternate lifestyles.... local commanders may or may not support your efforts.....as I said before.....however ineffectually....let the soldiers command know the facts and then just back off....IT IS THEIR PROBLEM.....
I agree with you....I would like the OLD ARMY..... but things change.....and banging your head against a brick wall wont get you anywhere
What I am trying to impart to you....it does not matter what the Branch regs say if the local commander....for whatever reason....decides not to enforce them.... AND with the PC world we live in....and the sensitivity to alternate lifestyles.... local commanders may or may not support your efforts.....as I said before.....however ineffectually....let the soldiers command know the facts and then just back off....IT IS THEIR PROBLEM.....
I agree with you....I would like the OLD ARMY..... but things change.....and banging your head against a brick wall wont get you anywhere
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SGT (Join to see)
MSG James Hughs - MSG, you got a solid point there. I'm not sure this will go anywhere, but I did want to see if I had skipped a regulation. Actually got some pretty solid advice too. Appreciate the insight.
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SFC Robert Lee Rice
IN MY US Army, 1955,1976,a guy dressed like that would have a blanket party on his butt,EVERY time he dressed like that,It wouldnt take many timeds for him to get the picture. SFC Bob Rice
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I’m still attempting to wrap my head around this insane question. I’m glad I was in the old Army. Hoorah!
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I had a similar experience in Germany in 1984. While taking the bus from 5th General Hospital to Panzer Kaserne, Stuttgart their was a male soldier with his radio in the rear of the duty bus playing his music very loud. I zoned it out until the woman who as in front of started to cry. She said she worked in finance and they were going through an IG Inspection and she had a severe headache. So being the only NCO on the bus I went to the rear and asked them to turn the volume down. the soldier explained to me that I wasn't in his chain of command to go f@#$K myself. So I went back up to my seat and sat down while the elderly woman told me what a sorry NCO I was. I told her to wait till the bus stops and see what I do. Our next stop awas Patch Barracks, when the bus came to the guard house I stood up and told the driver not to move, I then went into the MP Guard Shack and told them that a Soldier had disrespected me fail to comply with my order. I explained the situation and very large black Sergeant pushed me out of the way went onto the bus, grabbed the radio and through it out of the bus then he dragged the Soldier and both of his buddies out and arrested them. The bus errupted in loud cheers and I didn't get home till midnight and it was worth it. Knowing the the UCMJ and the Standreds of what an NCO is goes along way, but never back down if you don't have to.
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