Posted on Apr 22, 2017
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Had an interesting moment where in a soldier had me direct dial his BN CMD while correcting him about him wearing black lipstick, earrings, finger jewlery and ripped pants.

The CMD informed me I needed to read the regulations, which I have done so.

As far as I've read and know, there has been no update that allows male soldiers to wear this off-duty while on post.
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SFC Michael Hasbun
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Just remember, we enforce regulation and policy, not pet peeves or preferences...
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GySgt Mike W
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We’re doomed....
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LTC Carl Kimball
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It's hard to teach taste. Hopefully it goes away soon.
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SFC Robert Lee Rice
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Kick his ass,up around his ears,he wouldnt be wearing that crap on post (or off post) anymore.
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SPC Kevin Pora
SPC Kevin Pora
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Got that right Sgt!
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PO2 Waylon Swartz
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So basically the soldier in question was dressed in style of '80's "Glam" rock, sans the hairdo? Did you happen to question said trooper as to whether that individual was on his way off base? And while the SOP/Standing Orders may say something along the lines of it being unacceptable on base, what, if anything did those orders say about personnel leaving base? As an example/explanation, the trooper may have been on his way to attend a concert os, say, Twisted Sister, for all I know (after all, I only got through around 40 of the 506 replies). If the Army allows/tolerates/turns a blind eye to the female troops, to quote another respondent here, to dress as $2 hookers, then maybe you should do the same for this man, whether you think it appropriate or not as long as it is not disruptive to the missions of others and does not become become so... Just a thought. And one last thing, no, I would not be comfortable, nor approve of it either personally.....
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PO2 Waylon Swartz
PO2 Waylon Swartz
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os = to. Sorry about that, all.
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PO3 Phyllis Maynard
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I am so old school it's not funny. Webster's dictionary does not have a word to describe my feelings.
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SGM Special Forces Senior Sergeant
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3–9. Civilian clothing
a. Civilian clothing is authorized for wear when off duty, unless the wear is prohibited by the Senior Commander. Commanders down to unit level may restrict the wear of civilian clothes by those Soldiers who have had their pass privileges revoked. Within the confines of a military base or a DoD installation, civilian clothing will be worn subject to local regulations.

b. When on duty in civilian clothes or off duty and outside of their personal dwelling, Army personnel will present a professional image that does not detract from the profession, unless specifically exempted by the commander for specific mission requirements.

c. Soldiers are associated and identified with the Army in and out of uniform, and when on or off duty. Therefore, when civilian clothing is worn, Soldiers will ensure that their dress and personal appearance are commensurate with the high standards traditionally associated with Army service. Commanders are charged with determining and publishing the local civilian clothing policy. When on a military installation, civilian headgear will be removed indoors in accordance with established norms.

d. When civilian clothing has been authorized by competent authority for wear in a duty status in lieu of a uniform, the civilian clothing will be of the same comparable degree of formality as the uniform prescribed for such duty. Standards of dress and appearance will be conservative and meet the same high standards established for personnel in uniform.

e. The wear of clothing articles not specifically designed to be normally worn as headgear (for example, bandannas, do rags) are prohibited while on duty.

f. No part of a prescribed uniform, except those items not exclusively military in character, may be worn with civilian clothing.

g. Uniform items authorized for wear with civilian clothing by males are restricted to the gold cuff links, studs, tie bar, mourning band, footwear, socks, gloves, undergarments, black bow-tie, wool scarf, all-weather coat, fleece caps, and physical training uniforms.

h. Uniform items authorized for wear with civilian clothing by females are restricted to the white shirt without insignia of grade, footwear, gloves, handbag, clutch purse, wool scarf, all-weather coat, fleece caps, and physical training uniforms.

i. Uniform items that have been declared obsolete may be worn with civilian clothing, provided such items contain no distinctive insignia or buttons.
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SGT Lisa Fields
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No plain and simple 670-1 is clear on this.
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MAJ Hugh Blanchard
MAJ Hugh Blanchard
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Great reply, SGT Fields!
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Maj Mike Sciales
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"Quae licet non prohibetur." Things not prohibited are permitted.
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AN Christopher Crayne
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We are Ambassadors and should dress and act accordingly.
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