Posted on Apr 22, 2017
Can male soldiers wear lipstick, earrings and ripped clothes while off duty, but on post?
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Had an interesting moment where in a soldier had me direct dial his BN CMD while correcting him about him wearing black lipstick, earrings, finger jewlery and ripped pants.
The CMD informed me I needed to read the regulations, which I have done so.
As far as I've read and know, there has been no update that allows male soldiers to wear this off-duty while on post.
The CMD informed me I needed to read the regulations, which I have done so.
As far as I've read and know, there has been no update that allows male soldiers to wear this off-duty while on post.
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As far as I know there is no regulation for dress codes when off duty. Either on or off post. Many people dress differently. But in the end as long as you don't go around naked or wearing gang patches there is nothing you can do. On or off post. Evidently his Unit has already ventured down this lane.
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Ar matey.....On duty he is a private.....off duty he is a PIRATE. ARRR, Now scally your wag, and shiver his timbers.
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When I was in the Army and stationed in Germany. A good many of us wore Hippie type attire on post while off duty, and even in the field when off duty. As long as we kept our hair cut per regs. we never got ragged about it.
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I may be old fashioned but an ear ring or two off duty well that is his personal choice! I wear an ear ring now but was out of the service 3 years before I got one! But LIPSTICK...??? DAHECK?!?!
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I was in the Marines and Army... in the Marines on most Fridays we would have an Civi Inspection and if you was wearing Inappropriate attire your weekend was gone and when I joined the Army nobody cared you would see some outrageous stuff and nobody said anything
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I now days soldiers males want to look like females then I say get out of the Army. Men are men and women are women. Stop trying to be what you aren't. Get trained for your military job. If you want to act another part go get into a movie. Not the Armed Forces.
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Earrings used to be a huge pet peeve of mine. I had pierced ears prior to joining the Army. I gave them up because I wanted to look professional and the regulation was very clear about what was allowed.
That being said, I just pulled up AR 670-1 (Dated 25MAY2017) and under paragraph 3-4, d. (4) it states: "When male and female Soldiers are not in uniform and off duty, earring wear is not restricted as long as the ear-rings do not create or support ear gauging (enlarged holes in the lobe of the ear, greater than 1.6mm)."
Granted, it does not speak to being on or off post, which would lead one to believe that they are acceptable on post. This also only speaks to the earrings.
The thing that so many soldiers like to do, however, is pick and choose what parts of the regulation apply to them. If you read paragraph 3-9 (Civilian Clothing), two subparagraphs stand out to me regarding this soldier's attire:
"b. When on duty in civilian clothes or off duty and outside of their personal dwelling, Army personnel will present a professional image that does not detract from the profession, unless specifically exempted by the commander for specific mission requirements.
c. Soldiers are associated and identified with the Army in and out of uniform, and when on or off duty. Therefore, when civilian clothing is worn, Soldiers will ensure that their dress and personal appearance are commensurate with the high standards traditionally associated with Army service. Commanders are charged with determining and publishing the local civilian clothing policy. When on a military installation, civilian headgear will be removed indoors in accordance with established norms."
From your description, that certainly does not sound like a professional appearance, but that is just my opinion, and is somewhat subjective.
I have included the link below to the most current version of AR 670-1 (the DA Pam does not speak to civilian clothing). I hope this helps.
http://www.apd.army.mil/epubs/DR_pubs/DR_a/pdf/web/ARN3644_AR670-1_Web_FINAL.pdf
That being said, I just pulled up AR 670-1 (Dated 25MAY2017) and under paragraph 3-4, d. (4) it states: "When male and female Soldiers are not in uniform and off duty, earring wear is not restricted as long as the ear-rings do not create or support ear gauging (enlarged holes in the lobe of the ear, greater than 1.6mm)."
Granted, it does not speak to being on or off post, which would lead one to believe that they are acceptable on post. This also only speaks to the earrings.
The thing that so many soldiers like to do, however, is pick and choose what parts of the regulation apply to them. If you read paragraph 3-9 (Civilian Clothing), two subparagraphs stand out to me regarding this soldier's attire:
"b. When on duty in civilian clothes or off duty and outside of their personal dwelling, Army personnel will present a professional image that does not detract from the profession, unless specifically exempted by the commander for specific mission requirements.
c. Soldiers are associated and identified with the Army in and out of uniform, and when on or off duty. Therefore, when civilian clothing is worn, Soldiers will ensure that their dress and personal appearance are commensurate with the high standards traditionally associated with Army service. Commanders are charged with determining and publishing the local civilian clothing policy. When on a military installation, civilian headgear will be removed indoors in accordance with established norms."
From your description, that certainly does not sound like a professional appearance, but that is just my opinion, and is somewhat subjective.
I have included the link below to the most current version of AR 670-1 (the DA Pam does not speak to civilian clothing). I hope this helps.
http://www.apd.army.mil/epubs/DR_pubs/DR_a/pdf/web/ARN3644_AR670-1_Web_FINAL.pdf
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Well it seems like they can't wear anything else that they want to anymore so it wouldn't really surprise me.
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On Post...as your Sgt let me catch ya....Won't say a single word.....But you will get every shit detail for a year.....Get the hell outta my sight!
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