Posted on Apr 25, 2018
Can my son fight being chaptered out after drug use and DUI?
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My son is relatively new to the army. He has made a couple of bad choices. He used an illegal drug. It seemed as though the punishment was going to be minor. But a few weeks later he was caught drinking and driving. He was told that he would be transferred to another base and put in Substance Abuse program. Now they are telling him he will probably be chaptered out. Is there anything he can do? I realize you don't know my son and as a dad I am biased but he is really a good kid. Up until these two offenses he had been doing really well. Do they have to give him a chance at rehab before they chapter him out?
Posted 6 y ago
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I suggest, that you get an attorney if you dont want him to go to the Stockade. Screwing up like that, the Army likes to train as a team and then when you screw up is on you. In a way is a real immature way of the government to protect there assets in the best way possible of having people trained. I used to do what the military told me to do, didnt question the chain of command. Didnt do drugs, never drank and was hooah. Did ten years four tours in Iraq. There was soldier in the barracks who were doing drugs. The chai. Of command didnt want to do nothing about. Guess what I figured out why Obama was president. So the military isnt always geared toward, what is right or wrong in doing what is best for the country reguardless of how they spin it. Let's say with me, my PTSD from the military was never confirmed and the crap mental health services. Was force feeding me medication that didnt have nothing to do with PTSD. All the while, I knew what was going on with me, Chain of command higher ups was getting on my ass about going. Like, I was embarrassing them even I'm some sort of way. Reguardless of there long term alcohol abuse themselves quite a few of them. Long story short. The soldiers who were doing drugs weren't arrested. From my old division that rhymes with scareborne. They discharged me with an OTH after serving all that time. So you know what I suggest get ahold of his commander and ask him or her. To just let him out as soon as possible. Becuase even though what these higher up Non-Commissioned officers are telling you. There is a whole lot that they aren't telling you too *wink* *wink* for the sake of the country. They pretty much, expect kids to be grown when they get in. They put forth efforts to make it known, not to do these things. That is for sure, I have never done it and are honeslty relatively disgusted, becuase what you son is consider is disgusting to the service. So try your best to get him out before he is rushed by the chain of command to the stockade.
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Hard to argue, but what is his status, still honorable? If not, then perhaps we pause..
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Nope!!!! He needs help and the army doesn’t have time to reform yur drunk child!!
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SPC Frank Shiffer
Perhaps we could ask, has he seen combat, how close, questions like that? Cuz if he did then I'm thinking this could be a syptom but the cause is PTSD. What do you think Sarge?
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MSG Dan Castaneda
Nope. I’ve seen direct Combat more times than I wish I had and I don’t drink nor smoke dope. It’s not an excuse.
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Is he worth saving? I had a DUI at the mid-point of my career and the Navy sent me to rehab. Something bad happened that triggered it. I only had one offense in my career though. Unfortunately I'm not allowed to forget it because I still have to report it for my Security Clearance background check, called an SF 86. His second offense probably sealed his fate.
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Until recently, I had never heard the term "Chaptered Out" so, I can't really give an opinion on that except to say, be glad he's not getting a Dishonorable Discharge. From what little I do understand, there are several possible end results, only one or two of which he'd be able to return from.
Back when I was in, the legal drinking age was still 18 but with a military ID, it was 17 and on base, beer was dirt cheap ($7 for a case of Bud). There was a guy in our unit who at 17, became an alcoholic relatively quickly after arriving on our base because he simply couldn't drink in moderation. He never got a DUI but, did show up for duty several times severely hung over. He was given more than one chance to straighten out but, failed miserably. He received a dishonorable discharge and there's no coming back after that.
Back when I was in, the legal drinking age was still 18 but with a military ID, it was 17 and on base, beer was dirt cheap ($7 for a case of Bud). There was a guy in our unit who at 17, became an alcoholic relatively quickly after arriving on our base because he simply couldn't drink in moderation. He never got a DUI but, did show up for duty several times severely hung over. He was given more than one chance to straighten out but, failed miserably. He received a dishonorable discharge and there's no coming back after that.
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Very unfortunate, No is there is no way around that now. All Branches of the Military are 0 tolerance, Immediate discharge, Dis-Honorable is inevitable.
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SPC Frank Shiffer
Thanks Liam that was my question surely a General. His drinking is more than likely connected to his military days IMHO. I know mine were.
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Let's get to the Root of his indiscretions
he's getting High and Drinking BECAUSE he is NOT happy...
the military is Not his environment -
he's getting High and Drinking BECAUSE he is NOT happy...
the military is Not his environment -
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