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Good responses here. The only thing I'll add is there's a provision to carry over more than 60 in very unusual circumstances. That was done for me when I had to unexpectedly depoy again to Antarctica because my relief flunked the Shrink Test. So I had to leave in July and do a different PCS the following year. Think the carry over worked out to be an extra 15 days or so. I really needed some down time after my 3rd trip, so it came in handy.
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Had 79. Then I had 60 without taking any.
It is that simple. Take it or lose it.
It is that simple. Take it or lose it.
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CSM Charles Hayden - I lost 19 days. While in college and on active duty we were off when school was not in session. We could not take leave (except for emergency leave) when schools was in session. We had to take leave if we left the area. But, since I did not leave the area there was no reason to take leave. I took 30 days after school and commissioning but I still had 79 days at the end of the fiscal year. Hence I lost 19 days.
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PTDY is a different DA31. You can use for PCS, just make sure your balance is 60 days or less when the new FY starts.
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I have seen it done many different ways. You are right, you are supposed to:
Write in the comments section of your DA31 2 things.
1) SM is traveling XXX amount of days, approx XXXX miles.
2) SM is requesting 10 days of Permissive TDY.
Your gaining unit will probably throw their own twist on it, because the reg is a bit ambiguous. I always talk to both losing, and gaining unit orderly rooms to make sure we are all tracking. The chargeable leave section is where you have to watch.
Write in the comments section of your DA31 2 things.
1) SM is traveling XXX amount of days, approx XXXX miles.
2) SM is requesting 10 days of Permissive TDY.
Your gaining unit will probably throw their own twist on it, because the reg is a bit ambiguous. I always talk to both losing, and gaining unit orderly rooms to make sure we are all tracking. The chargeable leave section is where you have to watch.
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You are only allowed to carry 60 days over from one FY to the next FY. Any days over 60 on 30 September will be lost on 1 October.
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You have to use your overage of leave before 1 Oct or you lose those days. Say you have 75 days of leave, come 1 Oct, if you don't use 15 of thse days....they go away and you don't get them back or get paid for them. There are special circumstances as well. Have to talk to your personnel section or finance people.
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Yes I'm trying to figure out if you can take those days I conjunction with ptdy and pcs?
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Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS
SGT (Join to see) - Generally you can take leave with PCS, however "use or lose" (leave in excess of 60 days) just means that you have to burn it BEFORE October 1
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If you have 75 days of leave saved up, and you don't use them.....come a certain point of time, those extra 15 days go the way of the Dodo bird and are gone. Hence....use or lose.
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They disappear. 60 is the max you can have. Look on your LES to see if you have any and use them if you do. Don't forget the days you will accrue until end of September.
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Usually, the chain of command gets hate mail if troops lose leave days and to answer your question about PTDY, I just took 30 days PCS leave in conjunction with PTDY at my new duty station (all on the same leave form). Before PTDY officially starts though, the gaining housing office needs to stamp your leave form. It is best to find time throughout the year to take time off though.
So since I was TDY for 180+ days out of the year flying hither and yore, it was difficult to use leave time as my trips had lead and tail time for prep and debrief.
What was done to keep me from losing leave days was TDY in conjunction with Leave. I could, for example, tack on 3 days leave prior to TDY start. The advantage is that the government travel used to get to the destination and the return trip relived me of the responsibility of paying for my travel.....I just didn't get per diem during the leave time and had to pay for hotel and meals. A nice thing when you are travelling to HI, AK, CA, FL, etc.
So since I was TDY for 180+ days out of the year flying hither and yore, it was difficult to use leave time as my trips had lead and tail time for prep and debrief.
What was done to keep me from losing leave days was TDY in conjunction with Leave. I could, for example, tack on 3 days leave prior to TDY start. The advantage is that the government travel used to get to the destination and the return trip relived me of the responsibility of paying for my travel.....I just didn't get per diem during the leave time and had to pay for hotel and meals. A nice thing when you are travelling to HI, AK, CA, FL, etc.
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These are earned leave days not to exceed a certain limit. If you do not take leave within the allotted time frame, you will lose those days...take a look at your LES, it will state your lose or lose days. Hope this helps you out...!
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SGT (Join to see) The prior responses make sense.
I do wish that rule was in effect throughout the states. I hate to see a "city manager' or other civil employee retire and be paid for 6 months of 'unused' vacation time! They had time off, but didn't charge it!
Besides that none of those civil service people are so vital that they cannot leave their job for a vacation!
I do wish that rule was in effect throughout the states. I hate to see a "city manager' or other civil employee retire and be paid for 6 months of 'unused' vacation time! They had time off, but didn't charge it!
Besides that none of those civil service people are so vital that they cannot leave their job for a vacation!
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