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Well, I'm sad more Special Ops are heading to Iraq to engage Islamic State Militants with the Iraqs and Kurds. IMO, we're going to be there forever. Carter also said more troops may be sent later. So, here it is folks. The warmongers get what they want and those against sending more Americans into combat, like me, have to suck it up and pray we don't lose too many of our own.
And now to the rest of the sad news:
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WASHINGTON — Defense Secretary Ash Carter said Tuesday that the United States will send expeditionary military personnel into battle with Iraqi and Kurdish forces against Islamic State militants as part of a stepped-up war effort ordered by the White House.
The special operators will assist the Iraqis and peshmerga forces as well as conduct raids, free hostages, gather intelligence and capture Islamic State leaders, according to Carter’s testimony to the House Armed Services Committee. The secretary also said the United States could increase the number of military trainers in Iraq and special operators deployed to Syria. He did not say how many special operators would be deployed.
http://www.stripes.com/news/middle-east/carter-more-us-special-ops-headed-to-iraq-1.381327
And now to the rest of the sad news:
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WASHINGTON — Defense Secretary Ash Carter said Tuesday that the United States will send expeditionary military personnel into battle with Iraqi and Kurdish forces against Islamic State militants as part of a stepped-up war effort ordered by the White House.
The special operators will assist the Iraqis and peshmerga forces as well as conduct raids, free hostages, gather intelligence and capture Islamic State leaders, according to Carter’s testimony to the House Armed Services Committee. The secretary also said the United States could increase the number of military trainers in Iraq and special operators deployed to Syria. He did not say how many special operators would be deployed.
http://www.stripes.com/news/middle-east/carter-more-us-special-ops-headed-to-iraq-1.381327
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Works for me! I commend the President for his use of the Military Intelligence and Special Forces Community. Restored our Honor, Unlike what his Predecessor did!
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PO1 William "Chip" Nagel
SGT (Join to see) - Yep, Some have Scars on the Outside, Some on the Inside. Some Both.
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MCPO Katrina Hutcherson
I'm conflicted about this. The administration ties the hands of the military. The bombing campaign wasn't/isn't working because they want zero collateral damage. So, we can't harm their civilian population but we can risk our sons and daughters... Still, maybe our civilian population will be safer if we take the fight to them and annihilate them in their nest so to speak.
It would be nice if we could take all the military age men fleeing Syria and train them in Jordan to be the ground forces necessary to take back their country.
It would be nice if we could take all the military age men fleeing Syria and train them in Jordan to be the ground forces necessary to take back their country.
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PO1 William "Chip" Nagel
MCPO Katrina Hutcherson - It would be nice way of doing it if we could Master Chief.
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MAJ David Wallace
MCPO Katrina Hutcherson - I tend to agree with you; we should be wiping the threat out where it is strongest and send a clear and decisive message to anyone else who would threaten our nation's safety. Unfortunately, I don't think any of those fighting aged males have the intestinal fortitude to take back their country. They left without their families and ran like cowards, leaving the women, children, and elderly to fend for themselves....shameful.
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didn't cos GEN Miley say in one of his statements on the Army that SF cannot do it all?
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MAJ (Join to see), here is what General Miley said in the report you mentioned.
http://www.defensenews.com/story/defense/show-daily/ausa/2015/10/13/milley-more-training-put-teeth-into-total-army-concept/73881752/
http://www.defensenews.com/story/defense/show-daily/ausa/2015/10/13/milley-more-training-put-teeth-into-total-army-concept/73881752/
Gen. Mark Milley: More Training; Put 'Teeth' Into Total Army Concept
The new Army chief of staff will focus on more and tougher training to ensure readiness, calling for added training days
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I heard this last night and here are my thoughts, purely from a strategic perspective. If a former or current Operator can correct me...I'm very willing (and would be relieved) to be corrected.
Isn't the entire profile of SPECOPS small unit operations? I always understood that the Army's Special Forces are designed to infiltrate, create and advise counter-insurgencies, perform high level intelligence gathering, and conduct direct action raids and asset capture/neutralization. SEALs, as it was always explained to me, conduct similar missions, but are tailored more towards rapid insertion/extraction. Who knows what the true capabilities of Delta Force and DEVGRU are, but I'd assume very much the same...just on a much higher level.
What I've never heard of, is Special Operations Command fighting an entire war on the ground, without significant support in the background. I don't want to play "armchair admiral", but it seems to me ISIS is a far cry from Al Queda...with at least a 30,000 man strong army in the field, and what "seems" to be less an "insurgency", and more an emerging state infrastructure. If conservative estimates of total SPECOPS strength are accurate, including Air Force assets and MARSOC, are we looking at these forces acting more as a high-level BCT, with some yet to be spoken of support elements (that sounds unlikely)...or is this essentially a re-play of how the last one got set up?
The article seems to assume Iraqi and Kurdish forces will be the "main body"...Is anyone else as skeptical of that as I am?
Isn't the entire profile of SPECOPS small unit operations? I always understood that the Army's Special Forces are designed to infiltrate, create and advise counter-insurgencies, perform high level intelligence gathering, and conduct direct action raids and asset capture/neutralization. SEALs, as it was always explained to me, conduct similar missions, but are tailored more towards rapid insertion/extraction. Who knows what the true capabilities of Delta Force and DEVGRU are, but I'd assume very much the same...just on a much higher level.
What I've never heard of, is Special Operations Command fighting an entire war on the ground, without significant support in the background. I don't want to play "armchair admiral", but it seems to me ISIS is a far cry from Al Queda...with at least a 30,000 man strong army in the field, and what "seems" to be less an "insurgency", and more an emerging state infrastructure. If conservative estimates of total SPECOPS strength are accurate, including Air Force assets and MARSOC, are we looking at these forces acting more as a high-level BCT, with some yet to be spoken of support elements (that sounds unlikely)...or is this essentially a re-play of how the last one got set up?
The article seems to assume Iraqi and Kurdish forces will be the "main body"...Is anyone else as skeptical of that as I am?
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LCDR (Join to see), Sir, and I don't know. That's all the article wrote about. Maybe there's more to it than was written about.
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This was pretty much inevitable to happen. Especially when you never really had a cohesive strategy in the first place.
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MSgt (Join to see), I don't know how Obama's mind changed, but whoever did it, was smarter than he is.
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SGT (Join to see) I have no problem with sending more troops. Anyone killing ISIS Is OK with me.
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LTC Bink Romanick, Yes Sir, killing all of them is even better. Maybe now the air strikes will have better Intel where the bastards are.
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MCPO Roger Collins
Either do it or get off the pot. A couple hundred SPECOPS can damage ISIS, but is insufficient to destroy them.
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I hate to see this. ISIS loves social media sites showing their beheading of innocents. I will be in prayer for these troops. Thank God the Islamic Jihadists have not learned of the hellish techniques we saw in S.Vietnam. The booby traps were crude but effective. One injured military person on the battlefield takes 3 service members out of action. Even a small wound would easily get infected and proper foot care was SO important but difficult to maintain. I used to save up the cigarettes that came with C-rations and trade for a pair of dry socks. Last year at church there were 10 of us onstage the Sunday before Veteran's Day, this year only 6. 4 of "The Greatest Generation" passed... :-( We recently lost a hometown soldier in Afghanistan. His Mother has worked tirelessly to insure He will not be forgotten. She has organized a Memorial 5K Marathon in his name and had a local highway named after him. All proceeds from the sale of Marathon T-shirts go to The Wounded Warrior Project.
I know that I am Blessed, I made it home and at my age (63), both of my parents are still alive and healthy plus, we attend the same church.
God Bless our troops!
Thanks,
Rick
I know that I am Blessed, I made it home and at my age (63), both of my parents are still alive and healthy plus, we attend the same church.
God Bless our troops!
Thanks,
Rick
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SGT Rick Ash, Those booby traps were crude and nasty. Unfortunately ISIS and the terrorists are good at their IED's which seem more effective. Bad people figure out bad ways to take out their enemies. I'll continue to pray for our troops even more now. I was blessed also and returned with all my limbs. I thank God all the time what he's done for me and my family. Thank you so much for your response, and Welcome Home Brother.
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SGT Rick Ash
SGT (Join to see) - Thank You Brother! Isn't it wonderful to be one of God's children and to receive his many Blessings and his Grace? We are indeed blessed to have both made it home in one piece with nothing missing. The IED's of ISIS are indeed terrible, I believe there was another explosion today, I saw a quick piece of footage on FOX News this morning. God indeed blessed me as I have no PTSD but I had a short period of "survivors guilt". So now, we can be Warriors for God and Spread the Word. War is Hell....
Thanks,
Rick
Thanks,
Rick
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SGT Rick Ash, I used to pray while we were going to an air assault. It took me a long time to quit wondering why them and not me. It was survivors guilt. Eventually, I began to think God had a purpose for me in life. Maybe it is my military ministry, or it could be why I found RP, and can interact with others like me. War, can go to hell as far as I'm concerned.
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This sucks to the highest degree of suckability, mainly because I know that many of my PSYOP Brothers and Sisters will be going to Iraq. On the plus side, the Peshmerga are fighters and will work with our Special Ops teams. I hope they all come back home and soon
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There is nothing and no one over there worth one drop of American blood. No, nothing and no one!
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