Posted on Jul 25, 2014
Coast Guard / Navy....Please enlighten me as to what vessels you consider a ship? or a boat?
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I used to hear this argued a lot when I was stationed at Guantanamo Bay and working with Navy personnel.....clear up the confusion please!!
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Back in the 80's, we were taught in the Submarine Service that around the beginning of WWI, the criteria was an official name, such as the SS St. Louis, or the USS Arizona. Since the Navy refused to recognize that the submarines of the day were worthy of naming, they were just given numbers - S14, R18, etc. Therefore, they were referred to as "boats".
In THAT context, "Ships" are "christened" with official names, "Boats" are not. This is also applicable to "boats" carried on "ships". I don't know whether USCG vessels follow the same process.
HOWEVER... Submariners have always referred to the metal beasts as "boats" to tie our current heritage back to those WWI vessels. The first class of US submarines that were given official names was the USS Barracuda in 1921. All follow-up US Navy submarines have official US Navy names.
REGARDLESS: There are two kinds of "ships" in the world... Submarines and Targets (affectionately referred to as Harpoon Catchers or Torpedo Prey).
Here endth the lesson... 7;^D
In THAT context, "Ships" are "christened" with official names, "Boats" are not. This is also applicable to "boats" carried on "ships". I don't know whether USCG vessels follow the same process.
HOWEVER... Submariners have always referred to the metal beasts as "boats" to tie our current heritage back to those WWI vessels. The first class of US submarines that were given official names was the USS Barracuda in 1921. All follow-up US Navy submarines have official US Navy names.
REGARDLESS: There are two kinds of "ships" in the world... Submarines and Targets (affectionately referred to as Harpoon Catchers or Torpedo Prey).
Here endth the lesson... 7;^D
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There's a difference? I guess it's the same in the Army. When people see a Bradley IFV they call it a tank and it is clearly not.
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A boat can fit on a ship, a ship cannot fit on a boat...
http://www.marineinsight.com/marine/life-at-sea/7-differences-between-a-ship-and-a-boat/
http://www.marineinsight.com/marine/life-at-sea/7-differences-between-a-ship-and-a-boat/
7 Differences Between a Ship and a Boat
The difference between a ship and a boat is always a hot topic of discussion among people. Mentioned herein are seven main aspects which help to differentiate between a ship and a boat.
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CDR Thomas Gatliffe
A very erudite article that misses the boat (pun definitely intended), I'm afraid. Only mariners (but not submariners) know the difference and we are not allowed to impart that secret lore to lubbers who have not crossed the equator at sea and been PROPERLY inducted into the grand and exalted order of "Shellback". Those of us who have crossed at longitude 000 and 180 can claim the titles of "Golden Shellback" and "Diamond Shellback," respectively. All further queries should be forwarded to Davey Jones for resolution. Appeals to his decisions can only be handled by Neptunis Rex. That is what me mother the mermaid taught me while I was still a little barnacle.
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CDR Thomas Gatliffe
I have never known an Army Shellback, SFC Michael Hasbun, who had been PROPERLY inducted into the order before. I suppose that now that we have had to modify the ceremonies to accommodate the "fairer sex" (try telling that to a female Bos'ns Mate), the tenor and content have been reined in enough to allow a lubber or two to slide past the rigorous judgment of Davey Jones. ;-D
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I thought a ship could carry a boat. Hence submarines are only boats but aircraft carriers, cruisers, destroyers, and frigates are ships. The problem with that definition is a little riverine boat/ship that only has an inflatable life raft could cause debate...
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CMDCM Gene Treants
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Ravenhull was absolutely correct in his/her assertions from "Okay, it has been made clear ...
all the way to the end of your post.
1LT Sandy Annala
Ravenhull was absolutely correct in his/her assertions from "Okay, it has been made clear ...
all the way to the end of your post.
1LT Sandy Annala
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But, I will tell you allegations re "enhanced interrogation" are hurting us.
I'm a pragmatist, but I do not believe torture produces trustworthy intel.
Gene, please do not believe for a moment I embrace dark side methods.
For my part, I try to approach critical interviews with respect & discretion.
Warmest Regards, Sandy
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